(CR) Saint Seiya Omega

[Kanon]

The Galaxy Explosion was disappointing. Instead of planets exploding it was just tiny rocks. It was cool to finally see this iconic attack used nonetheless.

I don't know what to think of the introduction of Integra. She seems too bland compared to her sister. I think it would have been more interesting to keep an ambiguous character like Paradox as the Gemini Gold Saint. They kept Harbinger, so why not Paradox? She wasn't that much more evil than him. Just crazy.

[orion]

Originally Posted by Kanon

The Galaxy Explosion was disappointing. Instead of planets exploding it was just tiny rocks. It was cool to finally see this iconic attack used nonetheless.

I don't know what to think of the introduction of Integra. She seems too bland compared to her sister. I think it would have been more interesting to keep an ambiguous character like Paradox as the Gemini Gold Saint. They kept Harbinger, so why not Paradox? She wasn't that much more evil than him. Just crazy.

Harbinger let the Koga thru. Paradox played with Ryuhou and did not let him pass. That's why Paradox landed in jail.

[houkoholic]

Originally Posted by Kanon

The Galaxy Explosion was disappointing. Instead of planets exploding it was just tiny rocks. It was cool to finally see this iconic attack used nonetheless.

I don't know what to think of the introduction of Integra. She seems too bland compared to her sister. I think it would have been more interesting to keep an ambiguous character like Paradox as the Gemini Gold Saint. They kept Harbinger, so why not Paradox? She wasn't that much more evil than him. Just crazy.

I think it's more than obvious now that season 2 of Omega is just trying to play as much SS tropes as it can as a means to bring back the old fans regardless of how good it fits into the story, so as a result it's only natural they brought the trope that "Gemini saint must be twins and one is good while the other is evil" back. Heck the fact that I called the whole Galaxian Explosion finish is just more proof of this....

[Justin_Brett]

They were even trying to do something else with the Gemini motif with her split personality, but that's not good enough now I guess.

[Sageblink]

Originally Posted by Justin_Brett

They were even trying to do something else with the Gemini motif with her split personality, but that's not good enough now I guess.

Well, it could have been good if they did something like separate the two personalities. One remaining a saint while the other leaving for the Pallasites.
They could have come up with anything regarding the separation.

Guess they were "triplettes" after all...

[Justin_Brett]

Both her and the other Paradox had good and bad points to them, so you'd need to do that carefully. It would certainly be more interesting though.

[Goty]

Originally Posted by Kanon

I think it would have been more interesting to keep an ambiguous character like Paradox as the Gemini Gold Saint. They kept Harbinger, so why not Paradox? She wasn't that much more evil than him. Just crazy.

It's explained in this episode that she refused to swear loyalty to Athena, so she wasn't forgiven.

Also, what orion said, i think this is more coherent with her character. She wanted to purge the world, unlike Harbinger, and the fact she is still clerly nuts doesn't help. Evil can be redeemed, but i guess craziness can't be cured easily, heh.

[omimon]

Originally Posted by Kanon

The Galaxy Explosion was disappointing. Instead of planets exploding it was just tiny rocks. It was cool to finally see this iconic attack used nonetheless.

I don't know what to think of the introduction of Integra. She seems too bland compared to her sister. I think it would have been more interesting to keep an ambiguous character like Paradox as the Gemini Gold Saint. They kept Harbinger, so why not Paradox? She wasn't that much more evil than him. Just crazy.

I agree, it was such a lame ass GE. No exploding planets at all.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by omimon

I agree, it was such a lame ass GE. No exploding planets at all.

Guys, I don't remember Saga's GE from the movie.

Actually, the first time it was used was on Hades Sanctuary.

EDIT:

I see. What the studio did was repeat the effect of Kanon's GE from Kaikai-hen.

[Goty]

^Yeah, the rocks weren't part of GE, they were just floating around in the dimension where Paradox took them, and were sent flying with the attack.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Kanon

They kept Harbinger, so why not Paradox? She wasn't that much more evil than him. Just crazy.

I’d say they also need to check Harbinger to a psychiatrist ASAP if they really want to keep him around. He has some serious problem. What’s with his life-goal of breaking everyone's (both bad and good people) bones and revel in their pain and suffering. That’s simply not what a good or sane people do. He's a psychopath right there with Deathmask (or even worse).

Originally Posted by Sageblink

Guess they were "triplettes" after all...

Isn’t the first Gemini having a split personality only to introduce the twin sibling later on a well-known trope in SS? (look at Saga & Kanon). Lost Canvas also took similar approach albeit a reversed one (we see the twin sibling first then they introduce the split-personality bro).

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Goty

It's explained in this episode that she refused to swear loyalty to Athena, so she wasn't forgiven.

Also, what orion said, i think this is more coherent with her character. She wanted to purge the world, unlike Harbinger, and the fact she is still clerly nuts doesn't help. Evil can be redeemed, but i guess craziness can't be cured easily, heh.

I know, and that means she could have easily joined the good guys. Why did she even refuse in the first place? It was never implied she hated Athena so much she'd rather be imprisoned than fight for her. They could have kept her as a pure yandere who sides with the good guys only to protect Ryuho and make Shiryu proud of her. There were plenty of ways to keep her in, even with the kind of personality(ies) she has. Introducing Integra out of nowhere just so that Paradox's design doesn't go to waste was not necessary. Not to mention it's terribly unoriginal. It strikes me as an easy way to get rid of a character like Paradox which could be tricky to write while technically keeping her in.

[Mangaka-chan]

Originally Posted by goty

some pics from the next episode:

Spoiler:

finally!

[Goty]

Originally Posted by Obelisk ze Tormentor

I’d say they also need to check Harbinger to a psychiatrist ASAP if they really want to keep him around. He has some serious problem. What’s with his life-goal of breaking everyone's (both bad and good people) bones and revel in their pain and suffering. That’s simply not what a good or sane people do. He's a psychopath right there with Deathmask (or even worse).

To be fair to Harbinger, in his backstory he was only shown fighting in self-defense (or other fighters and criminals that had it coming to them). Even Shaka had done some fairly questionable acts when he was an enemy. But how is that worse than Deathmask, i don't know, Harbinger even let them pass and took a liking to Kouga.

What makes him ultimately different from Paradox is that serving Atena doesn't go against his goal or "life style" - he still gets to crush bones and souls of his enemies. Now Paradox would have to completely change her ideals, there was nothing redeemable about her. Sure we saw someone like Kanon redeeming himself and becoming a Gold Saint, but there would need something to happen for her to get there.

[Miraluka]

Harbinguer is a battle seeker. He even complains when their opponente aren't worthy.

Deathmask was a mass murderer who excused himself by claiming "this is justice" while killing people of all age.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Goty

What makes him ultimately different from Paradox is that serving Atena doesn't go against his goal or "life style" - he still gets to crush bones and souls of his enemies. Now Paradox would have to completely change her ideals, there was nothing redeemable about her. Sure we saw someone like Kanon redeeming himself and becoming a Gold Saint, but there would need something to happen for her to get there.

Paradox was the saint of love. Her way of life is totally compatible with Athena. She sided with Mars because it was the easy path, and also because she truly believed it would lead to a brighter future for humanity, one where she would love everybody and would finally be loved. That would have been possible with Athena as well. It was never implied until now that she hated her, that's something the writers came up with to justify her joining the Pallasites. Paradox was a more subtle character than she was in this episode during season 1.

[Obelisk ze Tormentor]

Originally Posted by Goty

To be fair to Harbinger, in his backstory he was only shown fighting in self-defense (or other fighters and criminals that had it coming to them). Even Shaka had done some fairly questionable acts when he was an enemy. But how is that worse than Deathmask, i don't know, Harbinger even let them pass and took a liking to Kouga.

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

Harbinguer is a battle seeker. He even complains when their opponente aren't worthy.

Deathmask was a mass murderer who excused himself by claiming "this is justice" while killing people of all age.

He’s also shown abusing some policemen and enjoying breaking their bones in the backstory though. Harbinger indiscriminately breaking people’s bones just to hear the “melody” of the cracking sounds in case you forgot. Basically, he did it just for the lulz to entertaint himself. Your miles may vary but I found that to be as sadistic and loony as Deathmask. When I said “or even worse”, I refer to the situation Harbinger’s currently in. He’s accepted by the good saints just like that without feeling sorry or remorse of what he’s done to those decent people he hurt badly during his life (god knows how many. oh wait..). The show not even addressed it one bit. At least Kanon acknowledge his mistakes and repent before joining the good guys and Deathmask got killed due to his grave sins, but Harbinger got away with a smirk and assisting the saints a little during the the climax of Mars saga (most probably to save his own ass too coz if he didn't help, he would perish with the others) .

[Justin_Brett]

If Schiller was any Saint but Cancer, he probably would have turned 'good' as well if Harbinger got to.

[orion]

My problem with Paradox is why didn't she use her powers to see the future. That way she would have known her little sister was going to show up to defeat her and totally avoid that scenario.

[Miraluka]

Fate isn't set on stone.