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You might have forgotten these threads as they are old . But I do clearly remember you have posts in those threads . Well when we ( generality ) discussed them it neither proven or disproven so the word Speculation . Also these points arent bizzare as Ishhin being a vizzard are they now this is illogical Quote:
So when you highlight certain sentences the reader can get the jist of the point and not bother about reading the whole post Also there is the other thing they are higlighted so it will defiantely catch your eye Its the same logic used in Ad world when it comes to advertising with scantily clad women Catching your Eye thats the keyord
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2007-01-20, 15:20 | Link #62 |
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if anything it is unlikely that isshin was even part of the gotei 13 because someone as well informed as shinji who sniffed out aizen's little secret and knew everything about ichigo didn't even realize isshin's reiatsu.
and isshin is the shounen hero's dad who revealed his power in the most recent hybrid arc where main enemy level > average captain and he talks about captain class zanpakutou. it's common sense that he could not have been a bloody 4th seat. but brilliant logic is always enlightening~ G: the FACT is, "A" most likely belongs to "Category X" T: you can't call it a FACT when it's "most likely" G: yes i can, because "Category X" has several sub-categories. AXIOM: "For any given entity "A" and classification "Category X": "A" most likely belongs to "Category X" is a fact if and only if "Category X" has more than one sub-categories" this applies even when A might not belong to category X. hence it is a FACT that tatsuki is most likely an arrancar, because arrancars are not always espadas or ex-espadas, she could be numeros or exequias. and at the same time it's a FACT that tatsuki is a seated officer, because seated officers are not always taicho or fuku she can be a 3rd or 4th seat. |
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If Isshin wasnt a seated office ... that means his power potential is less than top 20 in a div . Do you think he could have taken on GF . Why did I use most likely simply for the reson you have to deduce this . Also I used seated officer not taicho or fuku .. Yes its not stated in manga but cant you derive this simple fact/conclusion if you compare Isshin with a seated officers ( and I am talking about 5 th seat and below ) Quote:
SS King Thread Is there even one point to back up Isshin is a Vizzard ? See now why I used speculation and myth to diffrentiate these two Quote:
Let me give you a fact to dwell on Your are the biggest Aizen Fanboy in non healthy way .You call others fanboys , He is a Toshiro Fanboy , He is a Renji fanboy . But you are the biggest Fanboy in a non healthy way Why ?? Quote:
One more thing for the love of sanity go read some more shonen manga . You got the most twisted logic on shonen manga . Your defintion of shonen manga is way off by miles . If you dont belive me lets take a poll on who agree with your defintion of bleach shonen manga . Leaving you and that other troll sn of yours Cooper no one will agree ,
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who said aizen can fool the whole of S.S. with shikai? kubo who said aizen can 1 hit ko multiple bankai captains? kubo who said aizen can rule menos? kubo who said aizen reiatsu kill grimmjow? kubo who said aizen is beyond stars and skies? kubo who said rukia will soon get bankai? not kubo who said bankai renji can do more damage than shikai ichigo to shikai byakuya? not kubo who said bankai ikkaku is much stronger than gillian arrancar? not kubo who said hitsugaya will get catastrophe kai and pwn aizen? not kubo before calling someone a fanboy, how about at least provide some evidence of this person dreaming up stuff a lot more far-fetched regarding the character than the original author has already presented in his manga? Quote:
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You got the most twisted logic on shonen manga . Your defintion of shonen manga is way off by miles. if it is so twisted then there has got to be undisputable evidence from the manga to clearly show how off my views are. present them. your statements carry no weight otherwise. and for the umpteenth time, if i'm off by a googolplex parsecs then please do gather all those who are confident that rukia/matsumoto/yumichika will get bankai and any VC or seated officer will be able to win against average espada in 60 chapters and i'll bet against the whole lot of you 2:1. since i'm completely missing the point here, there's no way you can loose so why chicken out on a riskless 5 dollar investment? |
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Erm I hate posting stuff already discussed oO
All shinigamis were a part of Gotei 13 at one point of time . Ichigo now is part of Gotei 13 he is a substitute shinigami now . Atleast name one other Shinigami who became a shinigami like Ichigo , If Isshin wasnt a seated officer he would be another Ura creation I dont think so ... RoYal Gaurd seriously ? Why does Aizen need to transform into a Vizard ? to prove to everyone he dosent have a small pepe . No to take on SS king and Royal Gaurd . You can guage Royal Gaurd's power . I mean you have seen the current bunch of Vizards If you have seen their power You could Imagine Power generated when a Taicho class shinigami becomes a vizard Have you wondered why Aizen needs that much power . If Isshin was a Royal Gaurd he could have done what Aizen did to Grimm to GF . He didnt even need to use zanapkuto Ichigo acheived Shikai during battle with Zaraki ... at that point of time Ichigo couldnt even use Getsuga Tensho .... or he would have done it to cut Zaraki .... Still wannna continue on Shikai Ichigo > Banakai Renji . Also its not Bankai Ichi > Banakai Renji its actaully . B . Ichi >> B . Renji . Its >> not >
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Shinigami: Auugh! It's the Grand Fisher! He's the one who ate Bob last week! Grand Fisher: Hey, I like that name! From now on, I will call myself Grand Fisher :B This doesn't explain how Orihime's brother's Hollow got the name Acidwire, since he didn't get the chance to fight any other Shinigami. |
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IMHO GF was one of the failed experiments of Aizen before getting the Hogyoku He was trying to create Hybrids in SS namely kaien Hollow , The Hollow RenjiShuhei n Co faced . I belive GF was created during that time
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Another thing of mention is that not all the characters are properly represented by their seated rank.
Abarai Renji was the 6th seat in Zaraki's division before being transfered as lieutenant of Byakuya's division. Renji could've suddenly gotten stronger after he transfered, or he could have been the second strongest in Zaraki's division. Either way, it shows that mere rank alone cannot gauge someone's power. Some (such as Aizen) have even sucessfully hidden their power (not just his abilities, but his seriously rigged reiatsu). Hah, Isshin could've been Makimaki's predecessor for all we know =P |
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that's because zaraki's squad is full of insanely powerful people! we don't really know that guy who is ranked 4 (it's actually Yumichika, but the numer 3 what prettiest and Ikkaku had that so number 5 was the next prettiest), but we know pretty darn well 1, 2, 3, 5 and 20 (Maki Maki... we don't really know his number, but it's a safe guess). anyhow, we already know that Ikkaku is ridiculously powerful when in bankai mode and Yumichika's shikai is pretty insane. so being number 6 behind those guys is way higher rank of power than if he had been number 3 seat in Squad 2. that would mean he'd be behind soi fong (no argument there, she's strong) and fatty Marechiyo Ōmaeda, who is a worthless tool that ichigo dedfeated with his bare hands. see? if Ranji were 3 in squad 2 it wouldn't mean nearly as much as being 6 in squad 11.
as for isshin, i was thinking about the theory that a lot of people have that he was former 11 captain and he didn't die or he faked his death at the hands of zaraki to escape soul society. i don't know about this at all, but i've read it several times before. anyway, all i was thinking was, if that were true, then ichinose would feel like a total idiot (if he hadn't died). as to grand fisher, in ep 62-63 when aizen monologues at rukia and ichigo, doesn't it show flashbacks of gran fisher and the kaien hollow? i thought when he talked about experiments, it actually showed those clips. or did i just imagine that??? |
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Additionally, there are problems with your quote. Ichigo handled Ikakku pretty easily early on, while Renji was already much stronger at that point in time. Let's examine your quote: as you are mentioning bankai (which I am fairly sure Renji achieved earlier anyway). This is meaningless without context. If you are trying to say that Ikkaku was stronger than Renji and he indeed was meant to be a 6th seat, then you've proven my point--he's good enough for vice captain in another division. And if you are wrong, that additionally proves my point, if Renji was more than capable of being a 6th seat. Either contingency works for my assertion. Last edited by astrallionheart; 2007-01-22 at 08:36. |
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^ Yes, but then attracting his Captain's attention is not good for health .. See how Ichigo suffers it
Also, he already stated (to Renji) why he never told anyone about his bankai state. I'm not saying you are wrong about KT just pull something out at that moment for the sake of story .. I'm just trying to fill the holes with logical reasoning
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