Fate/Grand Order (Mobile RPG)

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Thess

Spoiler for lb7 stuff:

Shiki vs ORT/Tepeu: Tepeu did fight him, the deinos took down a health bar, but Shiki is going to be ineffective as hell vs ORT because this one had less hostility, Tepeu has better specs as a deino, and well, Bennienma Alter had to apply a mod version of Azrael to be affected by death. That should be conclusive about the "debate." Shiki gets crystallized and dies in a blink.

OLGA: Nasu's obsessed with Olga, so he makes every character glaze her, even for the smallest things. He thought that would make her popular (her absence of any popularity survey result, even with the amount of shilling she got that year makes his successs.... highly debatable).

CAMAZOTZ: Camazotz already solo'ed a harder ORT. He would have trivialized the boss battle at the end if Guda summoned him. Nasu had to take him out by his own willing suicide to make ORT threatening.

DAYBIT: How? Archetype Earth can't observe him. He can't die for good, so he'll be back for the plot (hasn't yet because he's crashing on Tez's place while we try to beat a filler arc). He can get a stellar class-heart implanted in him and he tolerates that strain without an issue. He can deduce things in a prophetic way (while Chaldea needed to be spoonfed by him). Guda only survives because of the items he gave them. Furthermore, he is powerful in the way he's a mirror that can one-up whatever reflects. But this means that he needs to be directly attacked to work. He is exceptionally strong, he has weakness to countermeasure that, which affect his social skills. Also he is the reason why Marisbury could go this far: he supplied him, in his attempt to do good, the model of the universe.
Remember that N. Chaldea's objective was stop Daybit from awaking ORT and they failed, both teams. He beated everyone and awoke ORT. In a direct confrontation against him (that's not a Master duel), Daybit won. He's a little ridiculous.

CHALDEAS: I've made theorist posts for years the "Foreign Planet" was Chaldeas and what happened is that the textures gor switched. That David Bluebook was a citizen from Chaldeas future, 2117 (JP time). So seeing all that validated felt good.
"Foreign God" is a system to administrate the planet Chaldeas, yes. All that alien presi talk is just Olga being a dumb for "moe" points I guess, or her way to cope with the torture.

Not quoted,but from your other post. Marisbursy didn't predict everything. He didn't predict the incineration (it's in the Ophelia flashback, that was unforeseen and would delaytheir schedule). By this implication, he had hypothetically other Singularities created for some purpose we don't know yet if Goetia had not gotten the upperhand. We know they had nothing to do with Goetia's because Team A were practicing every day and Goetia's were new in Kirschtaria's flasbacks. Plus Lev's actions threw a wrench to Goetia's and Marisbury's. Sending Olga to Chaldeas was a positive development.

Spoiler for LB 7:

I didn't know Nasu was obsessed with Olga Marie. I would have thought the events of this Lostbelt would have made her more popular, but I guess people just don't like her. Personally, I mostly just feel bad for her. I don't think she's amazing or anything.

Yeah, I know Camzotz solo'd ORT previously, but he could have helped after being severely weakened by Nitocris's mental attack. Incidentally, the people of Ka'an were pretty damn ridiculous. They managed to survive in an extremely harsh environment without any help and they apparently built an amazing civilization. Even if it required the sacrifice of all their lives, it's still mind-blowing Camzotz was able to beat ORT on his own.

Daybit is pretty ridiculous, but I'm not sure he's that ridiculous. He can summon as many cosmic beings as his number of opponents, but those beings probably have a set power level, which is very high but they're not unbeatable. I mean, his "shadows" did end up getting blown away, he won because he had moving toward ORT during the entire battle while everyone had their hands full. And I was under the impression the only reason he's not dead dead is thanks to Tez, not that he can't die.

[belatkuro]

A few more singles and I finally got a 5 star. It was Arjuna who is now NP2. And Tenochtitlan as well who is now NP5. I guess that's enough for this banner. I should save for Valentines now.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Spoiler for LB 7:

I didn't know Nasu was obsessed with Olga Marie. I would have thought the events of this Lostbelt would have made her more popular, but I guess people just don't like her. Personally, I mostly just feel bad for her. I don't think she's amazing or anything.

Yeah, I know Camzotz solo'd ORT previously, but he could have helped after being severely weakened by Nitocris's mental attack. Incidentally, the people of Ka'an were pretty damn ridiculous. They managed to survive in an extremely harsh environment without any help and they apparently built an amazing civilization. Even if it required the sacrifice of all their lives, it's still mind-blowing Camzotz was able to beat ORT on his own.

Daybit is pretty ridiculous, but I'm not sure he's that ridiculous. He can summon as many cosmic beings as his number of opponents, but those beings probably have a set power level, which is very high but they're not unbeatable. I mean, his "shadows" did end up getting blown away, he won because he had moving toward ORT during the entire battle while everyone had their hands full. And I was under the impression the only reason he's not dead dead is thanks to Tez, not that he can't die.

Spoiler:

He is. I mean, some people like me find her an eyesore because of how she's written and designed: like a gag character with sudden personality swings and changes that break the tone of the LB arc. Her appearance in Olympus was a new low of the chapter, and LB7 didn't change my mind. If Olga had been the Priestess (and maybe she is) without this ridiculous "President" persona, I would be ok with her. I just don't like her UOlga "arc." I'm sure she has a lot of fans, but she's less likely to be the "favorite" in a LB with Camazotz, for example, who was definitely the breakout character.

It wasn't exactly a "mental debuff." He fell in love with Nitocris at first "sight," and jogged some memories of his old lover according to Nasu. He was throwing the fight before it began.

Dispelling the mirrored shadows doesn't mean they have the tactics without his directions. He can still fight hand to hand vs Camazotz (his shadows only dealt with his warriors) and stalemated him. He can apparently also tear deinos point blank himself. Tez found U Olga's heart unsettling, but Daybit adjusted to it as his. Kadoc and Kirschtaria confirmed he brought himself back to life, it was not Chaldeas that did. I have no reason to disbelieve that observation. His "original" and father are "alive" and will survive even the death heat of the universe. He's connected to the entity (or is an extension of it) as old as the Big Bang that observes the universe, and he has the same knowledge as that. Marisbury even told him he didn't need him to elaborate on the components of the universe, only the shape. His kit is useless if he's not personally attacked. And he cannot spit out to work with allies, or so he thinks. In my opinion, having actual weakness and flaws make him far more realistic than certain characters that get no cap or true flaws that isn't "because they didn't feel like it." That's poor writing.

[Kanon]

Originally Posted by Thess

Spoiler:

He is. I mean, some people like me find her an eyesore because of how she's written and designed: like a gag character with sudden personality swings and changes that break the tone of the LB arc. Her appearance in Olympus was a new low of the chapter, and LB7 didn't change my mind. If Olga had been the Priestess (and maybe she is) without this ridiculous "President" persona, I would be ok with her. I just don't like her UOlga "arc." I'm sure she has a lot of fans, but she's less likely to be the "favorite" in a LB with Camazotz, for example, who was definitely the breakout character.

It wasn't exactly a "mental debuff." He fell in love with Nitocris at first "sight," and jogged some memories of his old lover according to Nasu. He was throwing the fight before it began.

Dispelling the mirrored shadows doesn't mean they have the tactics without his directions. He can still fight hand to hand vs Camazotz (his shadows only dealt with his warriors) and stalemated him. He can apparently also tear deinos point blank himself. Tez found U Olga's heart unsettling, but Daybit adjusted to it as his. Kadoc and Kirschtaria confirmed he brought himself back to life, it was not Chaldeas that did. I have no reason to disbelieve that observation. His "original" and father are "alive" and will survive even the death heat of the universe. He's connected to the entity (or is an extension of it) as old as the Big Bang that observes the universe, and he has the same knowledge as that. Marisbury even told him he didn't need him to elaborate on the components of the universe, only the shape. His kit is useless if he's not personally attacked. And he cannot spit out to work with allies, or so he thinks. In my opinion, having actual weakness and flaws make him far more realistic than certain characters that get no cap or true flaws that isn't "because they didn't feel like it." That's poor writing.

Is all this lore about Daybit from interviews?

[Thess]

Originally Posted by Kanon

Is all this lore about Daybit from interviews?

It's from the game:

Spoiler for daybit:

You can infer the Camazotz duel in the battle (why Deino Arc didn't see us beating Daybit after their battle, and how Camazotz got his blood on his claws, he drank it). The deino stuff from the manga. He's fast enough to dodge a projectile from Koyan, who is supposely the "goddess of weapontry" powered up by two Masters before he starts the communication. Do you think that's normal? A normal Servant would have been killed, and Daybit isn't a Servant.

The resurrection thing is from Kadoc's and Kirschtaria's statements. Him having U Olga'S heart as his own is in the story too. As well all the other stuff.
Marisbury wanted information of the universe and clarified to Daybit he doesn't need to be so descriptive of the components, only the shape, so he gave him that info. He gave Marisbury a map of creation, and now he is feeling rueful about it. He is connected to the Dark Star that's as old or older than the Big Bang. That's why he 'resets'. Nasu clarified (yes this was in the stream) he works on a cosmic clock due to the Dark Star connection, so doesn't matter the texture perception of time, hour and day. Also it's his willpower that keeps him from saving 5 minutes (we found this out from his upcoming shop CE), so that's his little "human" (or close) will vs what he's programmed to do. While there's no "hard" lore, we can guess from the conditions of the angelic relic activation (no deaths in 24 hours in a range) and how it holds "malice" toward civilization is that it values "innocence." That's probably why the boy was restored, not the father, and why they reset him so he would not be "sullied." That's my speculation, mind you based on what we know of the artifact.

Again, I wonder why did you shrug off he could tolerate a heart that's enough to power up ORT awake like it's absolutely nothing? Tez didn't want to "touch that thing" on his own words. The heart and organ compatibility can kill you irl with wrong blood type and stuff like that yet Daybit functioned with Beast VII stellar heart like it's normal.

Plus all the comparison of him as a person-shaped astromonical supervoid. That's probably why he put "Void" in his name.