2004-02-11, 01:11 | Link #1 |
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Why do so many groups size their encodes just so they *don't* fit on a CD? [PhA] [XF]
Hello PhA, Kaliedo Star, eps 1-4 730 MB, eps 5-8 750 MB, etc.
Thank you, just barely enough to NOT FIT on a CD Hello XF, Puchi Puri Yuushi, eps 1-4 750 MB, etc. Why do you do this? |
2004-02-11, 02:19 | Link #6 | |
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Still most fansub groups are pretty good at fitting their releases to cd.
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2004-02-11, 02:39 | Link #7 |
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Bah, with the advent of vbr and aq control algorithms, the encoder can request a size for the final encode.
Most groups whose encodes are over the magical 350, 233, 175, 140, 113 or whatever sizes do so either because they screwed up when inputting the size (happens, I usually encode smaller on next ep to make up) or do so as a policy to prevent archiving as was previously mentioned. That by itself is all fine, especially considering storage is dirt cheap, 10 cent cds anyone? However, I personally do adhere to the principle of not having fansubs and dvd releases compete. To do so by making a file 180 mb is just cruel though. It's better to encode at sub dvd quality, which all groups do either willingly or unknowingly, and encourage viewers to purchase the dvds for better video. Some will say that getting dvd quality from tv rip is impossible but I say "dust". |
2004-02-11, 02:47 | Link #8 |
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Okay, but if you're going to discourage CD backup why not just make them any kind size?
I mean just make it 200 or 300 if it needs to be (lots of motion or whatever), why skimp and make it *just over* 700MB total? And with XF's PPY for example, they fit but only from episode 13 on... what's going on there? |
2004-02-11, 04:27 | Link #10 |
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How old are these episodes? Before XVid came out it was slightly harder to make sure you got 175 megs.
And sometimes the encoder just isn't bothered, or doesn't want to take more quality off for a 175 meg encode. Those extra 10 megs do make a diffrence :P |
2004-02-11, 11:35 | Link #11 |
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I don't even worry about the "problem" because of 2 things:
1 - CD-R's are cheap; 2 - I don't burn the entire CD at once, anyway. With the amount of series I collect (basically everything being fansubbed even if I don't have the time now to watch them) I don't have enough hard drive space to wait until I have files enough to fit a CD to burn it. As soon as I get an episode I burn it and later I continue the CD. 175 Mbytes episodes mean nothing for. The extra space needed for multisession means I won't put four episodes in a CD. |
2004-02-11, 11:55 | Link #12 |
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T3h 2nd reply.
I've always wondered about this. Seems to make sense, but I doubt that would stop anyone from archiving.
It still discourages archival. I mean, you have a perfect example with marin. The oversizing did its job. <_< And with XF's PPY for example, they fit but only from episode 13 on... what's going on there? Were you talking about my example? I only needed to cut enough ops from enough openings so that the whole series fits on one DVD. The odd episodes in between that still have their op used VBR audio and I didn't want to be bothered to cut the ops from those because it's trickier. |
2004-02-12, 00:24 | Link #14 |
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the 'quality size' argument doesn't work because every ep can be some sort of number divisable by 700 (why not 650 or 790?), like 350. 350's a nice number for an episode. What other number is good for a 700 meg cd? 100 megs? That's a terrible size limitation. 150 will result in 100 megs of spare crap. That's annoying, but so what? So will 200.
Burning to DVD-Rs is just a nightmare. 4.7 gigs is just such an ambigious number. Some animes go over 4.7 gigs, and some are like two gigs. God help you if an anime is 2.5 gigs in size. Should fansubbers take all this into account? Screw that. Let's all make every episode of anime 700 megs to please the leechers. I think that's a good compromise, except for those DVD burners (500 megs of spare unused nonsense 1?!@11). Screw them |
2004-02-12, 01:47 | Link #16 |
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I do this on purpose. My fansubs were made to be watched, enjoyed, then deleted. A substitute for it airing on TV if you want to think of it like that. However if you like the series so much that you want to see it again, you should buy the R2's or wait until R1's are released (like they ALWAYS are these days).
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2004-02-12, 07:30 | Link #18 | |
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2004-02-12, 08:21 | Link #19 |
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what's the point of complaining about the size, the only result it could have would be the complete stop off fansubs.
It's like asking to have a release with OP/ED and one without. or one with yellow subs, to watch on the computer screen, and one with white subs to watch on a tv!! QUALITY PRIMES! |
2004-02-12, 08:53 | Link #20 |
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I want the fansubbers to personally deliver their fansubs to my home on preburnt dvd's no later than 12 hours after the show is aired in japan.
Then I wan't the fansubber to clean my apartment and make me dinner while I watch the release. Did I mention they should all be naked, female and good looking? This never happens though. My guess is these fansubbers are all hoplessly imperfect creatures. They don't seem to care much for my feelings at all. I've started to suspect that they don't do what they do to please me at all. It's like they do these fansubs just for themselves. Them fansubbers are all selfish bastards! |
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