(L) Ga-rei -Zero-

[Lloyd-sama]

First thing, hello all, i used to browse this forum a lot but my its my first time posting. (sorry if my english isn't correct, im from a foreign country)

I'm amazed to see how much people are complaining because they don't have a clue about what's happening. The same people that are complaining when we can have a whole understanding at the first ep, stating that it's a boring show...

manga freaks really seems to be lost kids sometimes

anyway, since i've read the manga, not to long ago, my guess is:

Spoiler:

since yomi is in her uniform and stated that she is alive, i guessed that it was the event that happened in the past, when yomi almost wiped all the organisation before been killed by kagura, and nori-san seems still to be part of that "MoE" organisation, as for kagura, who is still in possession of Kensuke's sword, so it confort my guess.

Since i din't read much about this show, maybe it's written somewhere that this is a "post manga" series, if so sorry to have interrupt your babling.... sorry i mean your passionnate debate, about a this very enternaining show.

Yomi i love you, keep going !

[kljs]

I believe everyone would want to know what happen next..... who wouldn't? You get to a villain getting the better of the main cast in epi 1, then the main cast from the manga gets owned by the same villain.... it's like Lex Luther bludgeoning Superman to a bloody corpse, then the next day beheading Batman and Robin. You would want to know who Lex Luther is going to murder next.

However, there is a limit to this this approach (if episode 3 is just the same). If you let Lex Luther continuing whacking superheroes, the question of WHY/HOW/WHAT appears. You KNOW Lex Luther is going to off another superhero, but you don't know why?how?what? and more ???????.

Same goes here. So, if we finds out that Yomi is the lead character in this series. YEAH, it is refreshing. YEAH, it is ORIGINAL. YEAH, finally the bad guys wins FOR ONCE. YEAH..... and more YEAH. I love it.
But that is the extent I am going to go. Bad guys killing good guys isn't that UNCOMMON. Seen it, Hated it, Lived with it. It's all in the storyline.

The main thing people are complaining about this is, they only saw the killing part, but don't know the reason behind it. (yet)......... And also, the main cast that was shown in the website and promotional posters are killed off in just one episode. If no explanation is given, it's ok, if the storyline continues along from episode 2 by the co-called new main cast and they do battle with the lead villain. Some good guys get killed off, but the new main cast left with a few survivors, all would be forgiven if the first main cast's death isn't explain. I won't be bothered. But now, we are left with another deaths of the main cast...... so, how is the storyline going to continue from there? Drag out more main characters from their own ass? then kill them over and over again? Is this a formula for a good storyline? I would say no. The awed factor is there, but with no substance. It's good we get to see violence and gore, but it would be better if we see violence, gore and STORY.

Wouldn't you all agree?

[sapphire-pyro]

Though many people are complaining on it, I'm actually happy with what the director's work on the first two episodes xD The show keeps me guessing and reveals to me shocking events xD Fight scenes had been awesome! The characters, both the groups of the first two episodes, had been awesome. I like this much more than the manga.

My only "major" complain I guess is Kagura's character design in the anime ^^; I prefer her manga design ^^; hehe.

[Joachim]

Originally Posted by Lloyd-sama

First thing, hello all, i used to browse this forum a lot but my its my first time posting. (sorry if my english isn't correct, im from a foreign country)

I'm amazed to see how much people are complaining because they don't have a clue about what's happening. The same people that are complaining when we can have a whole understanding at the first ep, stating that it's a boring show...

manga freaks really seems to be lost kids sometimes

anyway, since i've read the manga, not to long ago, my guess is:

Spoiler:

since yomi is in her uniform and stated that she is alive, i guessed that it was the event that happened in the past, when yomi almost wiped all the organisation before been killed by kagura, and nori-san seems still to be part of that "MoE" organisation, as for kagura, who is still in possession of Kensuke's sword, so it confort my guess.

Since i din't read much about this show, maybe it's written somewhere that this is a "post manga" series, if so sorry to have interrupt your babling.... sorry i mean your passionnate debate, about a this very enternaining show.

Yomi i love you, keep going !

we have discussed your point but like some of us said here, we just have to wait for episode 3 to see whether they actually killed off kagura and nori, by then we know the story will be a prequel or something new.

No im not lost

[Sorrow-K]

Ep 2

That was mildly better than the first episode. The cheese factor wasn't so high.

You know what I like. When a series kills off important characters with no warning. That takes balls, especially if it's a particularly popular character. It keeps the audience on their toes as well. No one is "safe", no one is absolutely certain to survive. It works a bit better if it's a likable character. I think this show's problem is that you can't make a likable character in a single episode. It takes more than that. But I don't mind this show killing off important characters with no warning. But each time it does so, the impact lessens, especially if they're doing it with this sort of regularity. If ep 3 is more of the same, no one's gonna care by then because no one's going to see a reason to become invested in the characters if they're pretty sure they're going to die by the end of the episode.

I want to see characters die, but I want to see it done sparingly and with no prior warning. There's no impact if it's done this regularly.

[Darial]

Episode 3 would be interesting. Assuming Kagura and Nori lived (which I am assuming right now), then we'll know for sure this is a prequel.

Spoiler:

The manga starts two years after Yomi's killing spree, when Kagura is a freshmen in High School and Nori is an independent operator who had left the Agency after Yomi's incident.

And right now, it looks like Kagura hasn't inherited her Inugami, Shiro yet. So it seems like everything is tracking the prequel backstory that the manga mentioned in passing.

The real question is whether the entire run is going to be a prequel, or whether they are going to fastfoward time two years and move into the manga at some point and introduce Ken, who's the main character.

It's actually kinda funny watching this show. The manga really reminded me of Bleach in the beginning, but the anime is definitely taking it from an entirely different angle. So far so good, hope they don't go too crazy on us.

[Ashlotte]

Well atleast the cast they used this time was enjoyable to watch unlike in episode 1...It would be nice at some point to get something resembling a plot to go with all the random killing and general mass effort at being "cool" though.

[kljs]

Which is why Episode 3 will be the key episode that define this series. For the gore and violence fans, they can't be bothered with this. To them, no storyline? who cares. As Long as they get their fix of blood and violence.

For some of us, like me. I welcome the new approach, but the absence of any storyline makes me feel this is just like a session at the cybercafe with my friends playing rounds and rounds of any first person shooter e.g Counter Strike, Serious Sam 2...etc...... See anything that moves, shoot. don't care who it is.

[GuidoHunter_Toki]

Originally Posted by kljs

Which is why Episode 3 will be the key episode that define this series. For the gore and violence fans, they can't be bothered with this. To them, no storyline? who cares. As Long as they get their fix of blood and violence.

Even if its another episode of the same I will continue to watch just because I'm a junkie for this kind of stuff. ANyhow that doesn't mean I won't give up the series. If it really goes absolutley no wear for at least 5 episodes then there will be a problem for me.

[loltan]

I just started watching this... and it's kinda... creepy?

Then I watched the Lucky Star OVA Again while trying to picture Yomi speaking like Misao.

[CocoWawa]

I've seen the 2 first episodes... So far the only thing that has kept me wanting to see more is the endings. They are frustratingly intriguing and makes me wanna see more.

I'd say there are more cons to this series so far, as pros. The animation is quite nice except for the CG, it is like nail, no a nail gun firing in my eye. The big monsters are just too much not blending in. It is fast pace action with little depth, I mean some parts are really cool but it somehow feels like it is too much and it gets a bit ridiculous.... But then the ending comes, and I am like, dude what?! o.O...

This anime has potential to become really good but I am afraid it is going to become another "Macross Frontier"-like Fiasco.

PS
Maybe "fiasco" was a little too harsh but it is what Macross F meant to me. I was liking it in the beginning. But for some reasons I started hating it towards the end or the middle. I didn't mean to troll, I just noticed that I was charing some feelings and thoughts with some other people when I read the reviews on AniDB - http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl...meatt&aid=5415. Sorry for the OT...
DS

[kljs]

Originally Posted by CocoWawa

.......going to become another "Macross Frontier"-like Fiasco......

OT : There is a Macross Frontier fiasco? How?

[SageGaiGar]

I think he's referring to Epic Trolling

[mukansa monkey]

Quick disclaimer: I have watched none of this, and probably won't... just homed in on "bike-fu".
Took a look at the show's website, under Items is the following motorcycle that I hope is the same one from the scene people were talking about:
http://www.ga-rei.jp/item/item_weapon02.html

Closest match I could find is this:
http://www.motoplanete.com/honda/cbr...-wallpaper.jpg

Bit of modification to the lower cowl and the headlights, but basically that's the body.
CBR 1000 is stylish and almost stupidly overpowered, a natural pairing with anime bad girls. I'm fairly certain that Tamako in Denno Coil rides a black CBR 1000. Was also featured somewhere in Kamen Rider.

[technomo12]

Spoiler for Question:

Why did everyone died in epiosde 1???? and is episode one has a connection somewhere inthe manga???

[cicido]

Goddammit, they better bring squad 4 back soon. I don't care whether they are just original characters that served no purpose. They were awesome. ;_;

Kagura is annoying.

[Yu Ominae]

Originally Posted by technomo12

Spoiler for Question:

Why did everyone died in epiosde 1???? and is episode one has a connection somewhere inthe manga???

Spoiler for Answer:

Seems that Toru does. His girlfriend, Aoi, was seemingly killed by the kid Kazuhiro.

Also seems that Yomi knows Toru, who told him to shoot the possessed Aoi with his P99.

[orion]

So that means the rest of us have to endure the complaining until ep. 3 and if those complainers still have problems after ep. 3 has aired then we can tell them "Hasta la vista, baby!"?

[Darknemo2000]

Whiners about whiners can be just as much annoying though.

[SuperKnuckles]

Originally Posted by Sorrow-K

Ep 2

That was mildly better than the first episode. The cheese factor wasn't so high.

You know what I like. When a series kills off important characters with no warning. That takes balls, especially if it's a particularly popular character. It keeps the audience on their toes as well. No one is "safe", no one is absolutely certain to survive. It works a bit better if it's a likable character. I think this show's problem is that you can't make a likable character in a single episode. It takes more than that. But I don't mind this show killing off important characters with no warning. But each time it does so, the impact lessens, especially if they're doing it with this sort of regularity. If ep 3 is more of the same, no one's gonna care by then because no one's going to see a reason to become invested in the characters if they're pretty sure they're going to die by the end of the episode.

I want to see characters die, but I want to see it done sparingly and with no prior warning. There's no impact if it's done this regularly.

I don't know about the characters not being likable. I already was warming up to the first ep's cast, the second ep's cast I don't want to see them go (especially Kagura) and unfortunately through all these deaths we get to see the past more and more. Which is pretty backwards way of telling the story, which both intrigues me but is sorta frustrating. Because the situation is dire enough for main characters to die off and that only makes me want to cling to a hero/heroine all the more.

Maybe they're somehow building up the murderous demons as somehow the heroes of the story if that makes any sense.

As for the cheese factor, I actually welcome it for this kind of show. It's sorta like with Bleach or Naruto where you just want to see the new characters just to see what kind of stuff they have up their sleeve. Cheesiness be damned.