Ever17 -The Out of Infinity-

[TJR]

Originally Posted by winkel

Oh I see it, yeah it looks like he says he's unfortunately not involved in the X360 version. Thanks for pointing it out.

So I suppose the big question is... who's gonna pen the new scenarios? Uchikoshi?

Uchikoshi works exclusively for Chun Soft now. Whether he's involved with another company's product depends on his employer's flexibility regarding these matters (it's pretty rare for a company employee to get that kind of freedom though).

Originally Posted by Kaos!

Not sure what was Cyberfront thinking... Are they thinking being the 1st to release among the competitors of the series(Code18, BCAD, E17 remake) would let them have the bigger sales? I would think that 5pb's pretty safe irregardless of the release date since they're targetting fans of the original series. And up to now no news on Code18 makes this even more worrying.

Do they really expect much from Code18? I think they're just capitalizing on the current popularity of sci-fi adventures, such as Steins;Gate. Of course, everyone else has the same idea too.

CyberFront has never had any vision or long-term plan for their KID properties, so I can't see Code18 being a special case.

Originally Posted by GundamAce

Oh yeah, almost forgot that Ever17 had two other writers. Again, I really wish I knew who did what part.

All I know is that Nakazawa wrote You's scenario.

[Terri87]

Spoiler for Spoiler:

I thought the Sora/Tsugumi bad ending was the You X Takeshi ending. It was the only finale in which You told Takeshi she liked him, too bad it didn´t last.

[winkel]

Originally Posted by TJR

Uchikoshi works exclusively for Chun Soft now. Whether he's involved with another company's product depends on his employer's flexibility regarding these matters (it's pretty rare for a company employee to get that kind of freedom though).

Side contract work is not uncommon, especially if he's not doing anything at the moment. It's not like penning a few extra scenes is going to task all of his resources.

CyberFront has never had any vision or long-term plan for their KID properties, so I can't see Code18 being a special case.

They sure enjoy re-releasing the entire catalog on PSP though.

[David Watts]

so will it get a English release?

[GundamAce]

Originally Posted by David Watts

so will it get a English release?

Probably not.

[GundamAce]

Originally Posted by Kaos!

Spoiler for E17:

Just realized that this remake would be a great chance to write endings of any possibilities that come before the true end since true end itself validates all the other endings as part of infinity. You X Takeshi good end anyone?

I would love to see this, actually.

[David Watts]

damn that would be great if they did...
wait is it just going to be an updated version or will their be new writing?

[GundamAce]

Originally Posted by David Watts

damn that would be great if they did...
wait is it just going to be an updated version or will their be new writing?

There is new writing, though to what extent we don't know yet.

[VDZ]

Originally Posted by Kaos!

2011 Spring Code18
2011 Summer Ever17 Remake
Not sure what was Cyberfront thinking... Are they thinking being the 1st to release among the competitors of the series(Code18, BCAD, E17 remake) would let them have the bigger sales? I would think that 5pb's pretty safe irregardless of the release date since they're targetting fans of the original series. And up to now no news on Code18 makes this even more worrying.

Maybe they want to sell Code18 just by hyping it (new infinity game!!), and when people realize it sucks and think back to how awesome the infinity series (*cough*cough*Ever17*cough*cough*) they just happen to be releasing Ever17 right at that moment?

Originally Posted by GundamAce

Say, if this is a new version with all new details, does anyone else think that they should make a Remember11 remake like this and actually finish the story? I would certainly like that.

Definitely not. Remember11 wouldn't be Remember11 anymore if the solution was given away just like that. Some more hints would be nice, though.

[Kaos!]

Originally Posted by VDZ

Maybe they want to sell Code18 just by hyping it (new infinity game!!), and when people realize it sucks and think back to how awesome the infinity series (*cough*cough*Ever17*cough*cough*) they just happen to be releasing Ever17 right at that moment?

Doesn't it benefit 5pb more instead? Unless CF and 5pb have been discussing this even before Code18 was announced...

Originally Posted by VDZ

Definitely not. Remember11 wouldn't be Remember11 anymore if the solution was given away just like that. Some more hints would be nice, though.

1 of the reason the Infinity Series is still talked about today was due to the unsolved mysteries they intentionally left. IMO, it's better to leave some minor mysteries for readers to discuss so the works will still remain in readers' mind. However, too much mysteries left unsolved will make it as if the writer digged too big a hole for him to cover, making the readers... Basically a recap of some of the mysteries in the series...

Never7:

Spoiler for N7 Spoilers:

The ending while looks satisfying enough, on deeper looks, it seems like nothing is resolved. And does CURE syndrome really exists...

Ever17:

Spoiler for E17 Spoilers:

Best balance of minor mysteries. A satisfying ending, while leaving some very minor mysteries that can be argued till today such as Kick the Can

Remember11: Too much mysteries

Spoiler for R11 Spoilers:

WTF ending, almost nothing resolved. The fact that even Nakazawa never gave a conclusion even in the PSP ending despite adding more hints means that they dug too big a hole for themselves.

12Riven: I haven't played it yet, so no comments...


If i remember correctly, Nakazawa once said that in an interview that the Infinity Series has concluded for him. Guess that's the reason unlike Memories Off, none of the involved parties(Regista or even 5pb) bought over Infinity series from Cyberfront

[GundamAce]

Teaser site's up, people.

http://5pb.jp/games/ever17/

It mentions, "New scenarios" along with "new endings", though to what extent is not explained.

It also mentions "Linear design" something, but I can't read the rest.

[Polarem]

Originally Posted by GundamAce

Teaser site's up, people.

http://5pb.jp/games/ever17/

It mentions, "New scenarios" along with "new endings", though to what extent is not explained.

It also mentions "Linear design" something, but I can't read the rest.

リニューアルデザインされた舞背景 ("Renewal design" -- (something) -- dance -- background?)
Updated design of moving backgrounds? In any case, it sounds like a reference to the redesign of LeMU's interior.

I'm loving the LeMU looming in front of me at the website.

[GundamAce]

Originally Posted by Polarem

リニューアルデザインされた舞背景 ("Renewal design" -- (something) -- dance -- background?)
Updated design of moving backgrounds? In any case, it sounds like a reference to the redesign of LeMU's interior.

I'm loving the LeMU looming in front of me at the website.

Yeah, I believe your assessment is correct.

I love that LeMU as well. It's as if it's telling me "Welcome deep place", yet again. And it looks like a different angle than we usually see it.

Speaking of which, anyone else liking the new LeMU design? It looks a lot cooler and more futuristic than the old one (though it's kinda hard to say "futuristic" when it's going to take place in a mere six years). It reminds of some actual Japanese amusement parks that I've been to. It looks more resort-like too.

[winkel]

I noticed someone posted a clearer interpretation of the site in some other forum here.

I like the new LeMU because it actually looks like an amusement park instead of a research lab with two rides stuck on the sides now.

[Polarem]

Originally Posted by GundamAce

Spoiler for Coco's Route end spoiler:

Well, judging from Hokuto's POV, he never really had any incentive to look at his face, and you could argue that they're so deep underwater that it's too dark to see his reflection from the window (I don't think his infrared vision would help him there.).

Spoiler for Coco's Route end spoiler:

I just realized that there were actually plenty of windows around the original LeMU, so the new ones shouldn't be an issue. Especially since they look good. Another possible argument is the use of anti-reflective coatings.

Originally Posted by winkel

I noticed someone posted a clearer interpretation of the site in some other forum here.

I like the new LeMU because it actually looks like an amusement park instead of a research lab with two rides stuck on the sides now.

Haha, same here

[4as]

I cant help to wonder if we really need a remake. IMO Ever17 was a perfect game and some changes might hurt ir rather than help. I would be happy with just a HD "remix" - tho 3D also sounds nice.
But on the other hand, its another chance for people who havent played it, to experience how wonderful Ever17 is.

Lets just hope they will be smart about this remake.

[GundamAce]

Originally Posted by 4as

I cant help to wonder if we really need a remake. IMO Ever17 was a perfect game and some changes might hurt ir rather than help. I would be happy with just a HD "remix" - tho 3D also sounds nice.
But on the other hand, its another chance for people who havent played it, to experience how wonderful Ever17 is.

Lets just hope they will be smart about this remake.

Maybe if we think of the extras as an "Ever17 fandisk" it would work? It seems more marketed towards people who have already played it once, after all. If I go by that logic, then a "remake" makes more sense. I guess you could compare this to the Higurashi PS2 and DS versions, which had extra arcs, but they didn't subtract from the experience at all.

Yeah, I agree, I pray from the bottom of my heart that they don't f*** this up.

Also, now that the characters have gone from "2D" to "3D"...

Spoiler for End game spoilers:

Does that mean that we, as Blick Winkel, have gone from 4D to 5D as well?

[waffo]

Spoiler for End game spoilers:

But if we're not perspective anymore, what are we? Instead of being a character or watching the character, we'd be...watching the watcher of the whole plot? That doesn't sound any fun. >_>

If the 360 port of Ever17 is ever officially brought over to America, I need convince my friend to buy it, even if she's never played a visual novel before. Though I may not do that if the changes added are for the worse and not for the better. Ah, I should've bought Ever17 years ago when I saw it on Rightstuf for a normal price...

[GundamAce]

Originally Posted by waffo

Spoiler for End game spoilers:

But if we're not perspective anymore, what are we? Instead of being a character or watching the character, we'd be...watching the watcher of the whole plot? That doesn't sound any fun. >_>

If the 360 port of Ever17 is ever officially brought over to America, I need convince my friend to buy it, even if she's never played a visual novel before. Though I may not do that if the changes added are for the worse and not for the better. Ah, I should've bought Ever17 years ago when I saw it on Rightstuf for a normal price...

Anyone else want to try petitioning to Aksys Games or something? They released 999 here, so we see that they like Visual Novels, and we could try doing the same thing here. Aksys doesn't even need to dub the game- IIRC, they released a game called Record of the Agarest War on the Xbox 360 without a dub, so they could do the same for Ever17. It's true that the Ever17 market wouldn't really be on the Xbox 360, but I'd be willing to get one for this game. What do you guys think? I know chances are slim, but it's still possible.

[TJR]

TBH, I'm not dedicated enough to rebuy and reread (which I can easily do any time) the game just because of some extra bells and whistles (with any new story content likely retconned at that). I certainly wouldn't favor the re-localization of Ever17 over something that's never been translated before either.