The Genderbending of Haruhi Suzumiya [Spoilers Aplenty]

[dkellis]

Technically gestalts can be allowed, but if you're letting one character be a gestalt, they're all going to have to be gestalts. Otherwise you'll have Superman in the same party as the Blue Beetle.

I'm looking through the 4E ruleset right now. It's simplified tremendously, but also more open. Unfortunately, very few classes have been released, so it's probably not ready to apply to the SOS Brigade yet.

[DJ_RockmanX]

*cough*off-topic*cough*

[Aebliss]

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

*cough*off-topic*cough*

Alright, alright, there's a simple way to fix this. Who wants to launch a thread entitled 'the D&D of Suzumiya Haruhi/Haruki'?

[Tyabann]

Originally Posted by dkellis

Technically gestalts can be allowed, but if you're letting one character be a gestalt, they're all going to have to be gestalts. Otherwise you'll have Superman in the same party as the Blue Beetle.

That's my point, really.

Originally Posted by dkellis

I'm looking through the 4E ruleset right now. It's simplified tremendously, but also more open. Unfortunately, very few classes have been released, so it's probably not ready to apply to the SOS Brigade yet.

4E does not exist. Whenever someone is talking about 4th Edition, they're secretly talking about World of Warcraft.

Originally Posted by Aebliss

Alright, alright, there's a simple way to fix this. Who wants to launch a thread entitled 'the D&D of Suzumiya Haruhi/Haruki'?

No no no no no god please no.

[Aebliss]

Originally Posted by Kaisos Erranon

No no no no no god please no.

Calm down. If you don't like the idea, just don't go there once it pops up. Making such a thread would reduce the amount of clutter in this one, which is for the good.

[Redlar]

I want my Sorcerer back...(though I prefer Cleric)

On topic, I'd think that whatever Nagato would give to Kyonko would have to be small and light enough for her to carry, as well as being familiar and keep her at a safe distance, for maximum efficiency. So rather than some wierd medical needle gun, or a .50 cal, maybe something more like a derringer would fit better. It also looks cooler appearance-wise.

As to Kyonko's psuedonym, it's far more likely that Tanigawa simply meant to say "John Doe" but wrote "John Smith" instead as an example of how certain cultural thingamajiggers aren't translated well across oceans. So simply replacing "John" with "Jane" would be more accurate. Just going with "common" names wouldn't keep with the same spirit of "John Doe/Smith" since different regions have different common names. For example, where I live, Sara is the most common name.

[DJ_RockmanX]

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=28129

Go forth and defend thy country.

[vivify93]

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=28129

Go forth and defend thy country.

I refuse on the simple grounds of that I know someone who could hack a website and I have a very short fuse.

[DJ_RockmanX]

Originally Posted by vivify93

I refuse on the simple grounds of that I know someone who could hack a website and I have a very short fuse.

Willpower eh?

And I just wanna get us back on topic, even if it means riling people up like I am right now.

[Jintor]

...great, all this DnD class talk combined with the talk about Needleguns has me trying to map TF2 classes to the characters.

Good job.

*has a brain headache*

[Don't press enter]

Never, ever leave this thread alone for two days.

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=28129

Go forth and defend thy country.

Meh. If people don't like Kyonko, that's their decision. I honestly couldn't care less.

[vivify93]

That's another reason on why I refuse. Let bygones be bygones, right?

[dkellis]

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

*cough*off-topic*cough*

*sad*

Spoiler for This is how we roll:

The SOS Brigade clubroom looked a little different today. Everyone was seated around the large table in the middle of the room, and the clatter of plastic on wood was the accompaniment to the conversation, more excited than usual.

"Mitsuru-kun, just put all the points in here! It doesn't matter if the others aren't good, you're only going to need this one stat anyway!"

"Um, but what if-"

"Just do it!"

"Oi, Haruki," I called out from the other side of the table, "why don't you just let Asahina-sempai make his own character his way? None of us were bugging you when you created yours, were we?"

"But everyone's so slow!" Haruki whined. "I want to start now!"

"To be fair," Itsuko said smoothly, "the Wizard class is one of the most time-consuming to prepare." She smiled prettily from behind her cardboard screen. "If Asahina-san so wishes, I would be happy to assist him."

"Oh, um, that's all right," Asahina-sempai said hurriedly. He quickly bowed his head in concentration, and started writing carefully on his character sheet.

"Aaah," Haruki said, leaning back in his chair. "If I'd known how long it would take to play this game, I wouldn't have agreed to try it out."

"It can't be helped," I snapped at him. "We're all beginners here, so something like this is bound to happen. Just be patient, and we'll get to play in a while."

Haruki pouted, but remained silent. He had chosen what the rulebook had called a "paladin", and was the first to finish writing down all the stats and numbers. I didn't doubt that when we actually got to play, he'd be winning every imaginary battle we'd be going up against.

"That is a very real possibility," Itsuko said. "Suzumiya-san certainly has the ability to alter something as simple as probability in terms of a dice roll, and any particularly fortuitous results can easily be attributed to random chance. Even so, this game does not have winners or losers in the traditional sense, so there should not be any great disruption to our collective enjoyment."

"If nobody wins or loses, then what's the point?"

"Why, to be a part of a fantastic story, of course."

I've had enough of fantastic stories to last me the rest of my life. In fact, I'd rather not be part of any more fantastic stories, so that I can have the rest of my life.

"Leave it to me," Itsuko said cheerfully. "If there are any complications arising from Suzumiya's participation in this activity, Nagato-san and I will surely be able to deal with it with a minimum of fuss."

If only I had even ten milligrams of your confidence.

I slid my eyes over to the silent member of our SOS Brigade, who was staring at the strange shapes on the table with a blank expression. I kind of know how Nagato feels, since up until today, the word "dice" only meant the six-sided cubes with numbers on their faces, but Itsuko had brought a set of strange polyhedrals which she said were also "dice". As I watched, Nagato mechanically picked up one of the twenty-sided ones, and dropped it from a short distance off the table. Were you expecting that result, Nagato? Please move your face once in a while so others know what you're thinking.

"There is a negligible discrepancy in the probability function for this die," he said in his monotone. "The chances of the die landing on any one side does not exactly meet five percent."

Itsuko shrugged. "Humans cannot manufacture perfect dice, but the bias is easily dismissable for a leisure activity." Nagato nodded; unfortunately, I have no idea what you just said, so I can't join in the agreement. "Have you finished your character?"

Nagato wordlessly passed his character sheet towards Itsuko. He had chosen to be a "rogue", which was something like a thief type, if I remembered the rulebook correctly. I didn't think it suited his personality, but he had homed in on it to the exclusion of all else, earlier. Maybe he chose it because it was a silent class, which didn't need him to talk much.

Meanwhile, Haruki had gone back to pestering Asahina-sempai, who was manfully bearing up under the pressure. I don't care if you're a chosen champion of the gods, if you complain that the game's taking too long to start even after all your interference, this "fighter" here is going to beat some sense into your helmeted skull.

"What about yourself?" Itsuko asked me.

"This class doesn't seem too complicated," I said. "I just run in and hit things, right?"

"In a manner of speaking. Do note, however, that as in video games, it is essential to have well-defined roles for certain important aspects. You, as a Fighter, will bear the main brunt of the enemy attacks, while Asahina-san will be casting his damaging spells. The third important role, that of healing, is assigned to Suzumiya-san. It will be his job to make sure that the rest of the party are in fighting condition at all times."

"Haruki? He's going to want to be the leader, and charge in recklessly as usual anyway."

"Then it would be the Fighter's responsibility to make sure that the Rogue and Wizard are safe, wouldn't it?"

I sighed.

"Would you like to reconsider your choice of class?"

"Never mind. Just hand me that rulebook again."

[Aebliss]

Originally Posted by dkellis

*sad*

Spoiler for This is how we roll:

The SOS Brigade clubroom looked a little different today. Everyone was seated around the large table in the middle of the room, and the clatter of plastic on wood was the accompaniment to the conversation, more excited than usual.

"Mitsuru-kun, just put all the points in here! It doesn't matter if the others aren't good, you're only going to need this one stat anyway!"

"Um, but what if-"

"Just do it!"

"Oi, Haruki," I called out from the other side of the table, "why don't you just let Asahina-sempai make his own character his way? None of us were bugging you when you created yours, were we?"

"But everyone's so slow!" Haruki whined. "I want to start now!"

"To be fair," Itsuko said smoothly, "the Wizard class is one of the most time-consuming to prepare." She smiled prettily from behind her cardboard screen. "If Asahina-san so wishes, I would be happy to assist him."

"Oh, um, that's all right," Asahina-sempai said hurriedly. He quickly bowed his head in concentration, and started writing carefully on his character sheet.

"Aaah," Haruki said, leaning back in his chair. "If I'd known how long it would take to play this game, I wouldn't have agreed to try it out."

"It can't be helped," I snapped at him. "We're all beginners here, so something like this is bound to happen. Just be patient, and we'll get to play in a while."

Haruki pouted, but remained silent. He had chosen what the rulebook had called a "paladin", and was the first to finish writing down all the stats and numbers. I didn't doubt that when we actually got to play, he'd be winning every imaginary battle we'd be going up against.

"That is a very real possibility," Itsuko said. "Suzumiya-san certainly has the ability to alter something as simple as probability in terms of a dice roll, and any particularly fortuitous results can easily be attributed to random chance. Even so, this game does not have winners or losers in the traditional sense, so there should not be any great disruption to our collective enjoyment."

"If nobody wins or loses, then what's the point?"

"Why, to be a part of a fantastic story, of course."

I've had enough of fantastic stories to last me the rest of my life. In fact, I'd rather not be part of any more fantastic stories, so that I can have the rest of my life.

"Leave it to me," Itsuko said cheerfully. "If there are any complications arising from Suzumiya's participation in this activity, Nagato-san and I will surely be able to deal with it with a minimum of fuss."

If only I had even ten milligrams of your confidence.

I slid my eyes over to the silent member of our SOS Brigade, who was staring at the strange shapes on the table with a blank expression. I kind of know how Nagato feels, since up until today, the word "dice" only meant the six-sided cubes with numbers on their faces, but Itsuko had brought a set of strange polyhedrals which she said were also "dice". As I watched, Nagato mechanically picked up one of the twenty-sided ones, and dropped it from a short distance off the table. Were you expecting that result, Nagato? Please move your face once in a while so others know what you're thinking.

"There is a negligible discrepancy in the probability function for this die," he said in his monotone. "The chances of the die landing on any one side does not exactly meet five percent."

Itsuko shrugged. "Humans cannot manufacture perfect dice, but the bias is easily dismissable for a leisure activity." Nagato nodded; unfortunately, I have no idea what you just said, so I can't join in the agreement. "Have you finished your character?"

Nagato wordlessly passed his character sheet towards Itsuko. He had chosen to be a "rogue", which was something like a thief type, if I remembered the rulebook correctly. I didn't think it suited his personality, but he had homed in on it to the exclusion of all else, earlier. Maybe he chose it because it was a silent class, which didn't need him to talk much.

Meanwhile, Haruki had gone back to pestering Asahina-sempai, who was manfully bearing up under the pressure. I don't care if you're a chosen champion of the gods, if you complain that the game's taking too long to start even after all your interference, this "fighter" here is going to beat some sense into your helmeted skull.

"What about yourself?" Itsuko asked me.

"This class doesn't seem too complicated," I said. "I just run in and hit things, right?"

"In a manner of speaking. Do note, however, that as in video games, it is essential to have well-defined roles for certain important aspects. You, as a Fighter, will bear the main brunt of the enemy attacks, while Asahina-san will be casting his damaging spells. The third important role, that of healing, is assigned to Suzumiya-san. It will be his job to make sure that the rest of the party are in fighting condition at all times."

"Haruki? He's going to want to be the leader, and charge in recklessly as usual anyway."

"Then it would be the Fighter's responsibility to make sure that the Rogue and Wizard are safe, wouldn't it?"

I sighed.

"Would you like to reconsider your choice of class?"

"Never mind. Just hand me that rulebook again."

I approve and want to read more!

Originally Posted by Don't press enter

Meh. If people don't like Kyonko, that's their decision. I honestly couldn't care less.

Hear, hear.

[Jintor]

Epic win, dkellis.

[shaoron]

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=28129

Go forth and defend thy country.

They see kyonko rollin'
They hatin'
Patrollin'
they tryin' to catch kyonko ridin. dirty.

[Ultima_Rasengan05]

Originally Posted by DJ_RockmanX

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=28129

Go forth and defend thy country.

I know its just opinion and stuff, but to make it sound like its such a big deal (and not to mention, its not even canon to Haruhi) is really kid-like. Though it could get ugly if they are provoked enough...

So...now we're talking about classes?...as in classifications of combat skills like in Fire Emblem?? Where did this come from?

Oh and whats D&D??...If its something really obvious, forgive me for not understanding internet terms.

[shaoron]

anyway, on a more serious note about that guy's "hatin"
just leave him be. it seems if we provoke him, it'll only get worse

[Jintor]

Dudes, dudes. Don't feed the trolls.

[shaoron]

besides.. it's not like he came here and started trashing the place and flaming the project