2012-07-15, 04:37 | Link #401 |
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The episode basically covers the [Aria in the Starless Night] side-story, a separate chapter from the novelization, but you can still find it on bakatsuki. Since they're probably not going to cover it, you might also want to check out the [First Day] chapter in vol 8 that covers an event between episode 1 and 2.
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2012-07-15, 04:38 | Link #402 | |
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It's called Aria in the Starless Night. Basically it skipped over Asuna's depression and suicidal tendencies before meeting with Kirito. |
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2012-07-15, 07:44 | Link #403 | |
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"There wasn't enough time for us to grow attached to her" or "Why should we share about a character that was introduced at the beginning of the episode only to die at the very end?" Or maybe not. Who knows. I liked episode 2, but I hope episode 3 (RNR) will be much better. |
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2012-07-15, 08:58 | Link #404 |
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Ep2 could've been much better, but that's not even why I'm worried about the following episode.
Sure, a lot of things could've been done better, but in retrospect, this was a story that they could had chosen to skip altogether. And while it misses out on a lot of touches on Asuna's story, it really depends on one's perspective. In the original first vol, those crazy elements were stuff that were kept missing from Kirito's view for a long time until they've become more acquainted. There are other opportunities to revisit it, and while it may not be as detailed as the light novel, it's fine. Ep3, coming off an Aria adaption was my main issue going through a chronological adaption of SAO, in that a RDR follow-up from an episode where Kirito had pretty much reaffirmed his 'Solo' status would... be awkward? To say the least.
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2012-07-15, 09:01 | Link #405 |
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The big problem is that even the LN never told us how he got from Aria-Rondo-Monochrome to the Black Cats. Which itself, I suspect in the rewrite would be a whole arc - or even three arcs side by side - Kirito's post Monochrome separation from Asuna, his loneliness period Arc, the Black Cats arc, and finally, the Red Nose Reindeer arc. Hopefully too, after that, we'd get the 50th floor arc, and maybe another bridging arc that brings us to Black Swordsman.
As for the anime itself, I do agree it would be quite awkward to see RNR- since I cannot see how they can compress Kirito is lonely, the Black Cats fulfilled his loneliness, he grew close to Sachi as a substitute Imouto and his Red Nose Reindeer madness in one episode, without making it rushed as hell, and alot of viewers going WTF just happened? Did they did a Campione and animated a whole volume into one Episode? (Yes, I know, RNR is shorter than Aria, and only a part of a larger volume.) Last edited by novalysis; 2012-07-15 at 09:27. |
2012-07-15, 09:11 | Link #406 | ||
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Which was perfectly fine, given the original design of the way SAO told its story in a main plot, fragments of other self-contained stories, and stuff that are good for flashbacks. ( like RDR, damnit!) Quote:
And why I vehemently continue to oppose a chronological adaption of SAO, especially in the context of RDR. At least with a flashback, you'd have the benefit of the narrator (Kirito, in this case) at least 'padding' his flashback with 'I got lonely' without needing to actually show how that happened to him. While there are ways to actually show Kirito going through a phase of loneliness in a short amount of time ( I dunno, have him showing some jealousy of Kline's strongly bonded guild ( via a 800 word essay? ), or simply have him in a hobo-like situation for a few minutes where he's alone in the darkness of dungeons while it rains and stuff, it would be hard to actually convey effectively.
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2012-07-15, 09:29 | Link #408 | |
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Unfortunately I have to echo Nightengale's fear, I just don't see a way for them to effectively deal with a time jump and the abrupt change in direction (huh what? didn't that guy just went all badass I IZ SOLO? and he's already going I AM RONERY??? ) in a single episode. Personally i thought the end of ep.2 was perfect for them to hop back to SAO proper, and deal with RNR as a flashback instead. |
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2012-07-15, 09:31 | Link #409 |
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There's very little room to cut RNR. On the other hand, it could also be him seating besides a campfire on Christmas, talking to Klein before his insane attempt to revive Sachi about Sachi and the Black Cats.
I can see it now. Some critics are going to come and argue that the entire first half of SAO feels fragmented- and ALO is a far more cohesive plot. Which it is- this is perfectly true. Hopefully though, it might bring more people to read the LN to find out what got axed from SAO's anime, which I fear would be quite a good deal. On the other hand, the First Volume main arc, and Volume 3 and 4 would likely receive quite faithful adaptations. Especially if Fairy Dance got 9-12 episodes. |
2012-07-15, 09:37 | Link #411 | ||
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I concur. No matter how we look at it, it's going to lose a good bit of effectiveness and impact. I guess we can hope that the adaptation doesn't butcher it too much? Quote:
Uh. I don't like the sound of that. At all. If that does happen, the anime will effectively be a means of advertising the novels, which is something that doesn't sit well with me. I want a good adaptation, not some advertisement. :/ |
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2012-07-15, 09:46 | Link #413 | |
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The fragmented nature of SAO does bring quite alot of issues into writing large scale SAO Crossovers or fanfics set in Aincrad, unfortunately. Though of course, Kawahara did acknowledge that if he was to tell the whole tale, it'd have taken years of writing. |
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2012-07-15, 10:17 | Link #415 | |
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I think the Pre GGO sidestory, GGO, Calibur and Mother's Rosario should be enough to fit two cours, or at least one and a half cours. Of course, they might make Mother's Rosario a movie instead. |
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2012-07-15, 15:59 | Link #416 |
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Heh, my prediction on the 2nd episode was dead on. Though I admit it does missing something, it's still a good episode nonetheless. I like it.
I don't mind they tweaked Aria a bit. That story isn't part of the novel after, just a side story outside of the novel. It even have some inconsistencies with the vol.1 material; Asuna did not show much interest to Kirito until floor 40 or so. If they animate Aria properly, it would contradict that fact. So I'm actually fine with how they handle episode 2. For RNR, there are 2 ways they can animate this in 1 episode. First is to do it in a flashback mode, where Kirito himself remembering the story just before he face off with Nick the Apostle. Ending the episode with him walking away from the fight, throwing the item to Klein. The other is to do it like the light novel, with the timeline keep going back and forth between past and present. It would be tricky, but it's doable... we'll just see how it'll go. Last edited by maelstormCaT; 2012-07-15 at 16:13. |
2012-07-15, 16:11 | Link #418 |
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But if they were to omit something from Kirito's side, the impact would be lessened (let's just assume it would). So, I'd rather they sacrifice Klein's moment in order for it to retain its effectiveness. But hey, who's to say they can't do both?
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2012-07-15, 16:22 | Link #419 | |
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Anything else is just bonus for me. |
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