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In general terms, I have to say that this strikes me as the type of show that would have been quite popular in North America back when anime was the big thing (and that have never really sold all that well in Japan on disc), so I wonder if it'll do well for Sentai these days. I guess we'll see...
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2013-01-18, 07:41 | Link #886 | |
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2013-01-19, 18:16 | Link #887 | |
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2013-01-19, 18:27 | Link #888 | |
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Your point is valid. But it's not like anime is the only industry that is guilty of same old, same old and being enabled to do so by those paying.
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2013-01-20, 04:34 | Link #889 | |
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And honestly... I'm also not sure that a show that deals with so many complex sexual issues featuring characters at those ages is going to be a mainstream hit in many cultures, even if you think it's "creative", "imaginative", and "great". I think it's actually in a niche of its own (a niche you may perhaps find more appealing and "socially acceptable" based on your own criteria). I think that they made a show like this in the first place is testament to the industry still being willing to try things to reach out to different parts of the niche market (and in fact, there have been a good number of anime released in the last year that I feel would qualify for that statement).
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2013-01-20, 05:06 | Link #891 | |
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I mean, isn't the problem the other way around: why won't people who like shows like Moribito and SSY buy things? If the market really is there, what are they willing to buy if Blu-Rays (etc.) aren't the thing? As was pointed out, there didn't seem to be a rush to buy the books either, and those aren't so expensive. So if there's a real market, where are they and what are they doing? I do think it may be interesting to see how the show does in North America. Some times the tastes of the markets are sufficiently different in that sense.
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2013-01-20, 05:15 | Link #892 | |
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So companies appeal to the rather few who fit all of the above: like cartoons and have huge amounts of pocket money. Since they tend to be young males, we get lots of seinen shows with promiscuty. |
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2013-01-20, 05:49 | Link #893 |
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The contents in question are being made because producers bet on these people to bring in stable profits. They don't have a united voice, but they do constitute an audience that forms and follows trends. Its members are fleeting and its "membership" has got more to do with their age and social standing. This is not surprising that children, teenagers and manchildren are frequently associated with anime. The fact that this group has now moved away from anime, more towards idol and "social" fandom is discomforting knowledge because it will bring even futher change to the medium. All these idol anime are just the tip of the iceberg, but this will manifest in other ways because anime will try to accomodate for new trends whilst trying to keep its identity.
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2013-01-20, 06:02 | Link #894 |
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There was a studio that mainly made titles in the interest of quality and critical acclaim - Madhouse. And while I like their works for the greater part, the problem was they rarely sold well. And look what happened to them.
This isn't an idealistic industry. It's a pragmatic one. As are most in life. And I think sometimes people forget a good deal of those controlling what gets made are proud of the fact. It gives them some form of fulfillment. Remember anime is somewhat full of a 'one of us' mentality. Don't you think they get a real kick that people like you, Reckoner, are getting frustrated by the way things are? I don't necessarily like the way things are going overall. But hey, each to their own. People get what they deserve and if the day comes they regret it, so be it.
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2013-01-20, 07:02 | Link #895 | |
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Ok that was just to tease you,I get what you mean. Former madhouse president and MAPPA founder Maruyama Masao is still fighting the good fight though. relentlessflame asks where is the market and well the frustrating thing is that sometimes even if the source material is popular there's no anime market for it because just because someone is into manga doesn't mean they're into anime. Which brings me back to Maruyama Masao and MAPPA, he's trying to get a Pluto adaptation off the ground,Pluto is a manga by Naoki Urasawa that has topped weekly sales charts and won awards and yet MAPPA can't find investors because people don't believe that the anime would sell despite the manga's popularity because while it tops manga sales charts the people who buy the manga aren't the same audience as those who buy anime.Same scenario with Urasawa's latest manga Billy Bat. Or take Biblia Koshodou no Jiken Techou , it's a very popular light novel , here are the sales of the 3 light novels: vol1: 1,080,967 vol2: 757,933 vol3: 635,839 That's more than any Sword Art Online volume and yet it got a live action adaptation (airing right now on primetime on Fuji TV) but no anime adaptation yet. The cynical side of me believes that's because the female lead is a woman instead of a cute highschool girl and that going by the various illustrations there's nothing close to fanservice so producers think the anime wouldn't sell and therefore went live action instead,I'd love to be proven wrong.
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2013-01-20, 07:08 | Link #896 | |
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After talking to some people who have read it, the general consensus is that it would be better of as a live action. It's a detective mystery story that runs pretty much like [Galileo] if you have watched/read it. There's a lot of exposition talking and not enough flashy scenes for an Anime. btw, the number of sales for each volume is closer to 1,000,000 average. Total sale for just three volumes at last count was 3 800 000.
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2013-01-20, 07:15 | Link #897 | ||
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There is a certain identity that can come with being part of the latest trends/fads... but the widely varying sales even among shows that are supposedly "popular" suggests to me that, when it comes time to put down real money, people aren't really as driven by the "herd mentality" as it sometimes seems on Forums. Quote:
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2013-01-20, 07:15 | Link #898 |
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Liar Game was a very financially successful live action. It didn't get animated and was probably the right choice - the manga reaching peak popularity around the time the moe boom kicked in meant an anime just wouldn't have worked. Kaiji's live action has been a success but its anime seasons are merely advertisments in the end.
I'd call that realistic rather than cynical. There only are certain types of shows and qualities that sell. But consider anime's painful costs in Japan, perhaps the LN and live-action are far better choices anyway? Urusawa is a genius. But, you know, I can't even find sales figures for Monster and the English license was culled about 1/5 through. However its sales on manga globally and the anime being played on cable in a good number of countries in Europe and being a success there means there is a market. But really, the amount of freedoms to create something in manga and be successful are somewhat better than those for anime. Meh, so be it. I'll buy what I like, watch what I like and read what I like, regardless of sales. Popularity can be a curse as much as it is a blessing.
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Also Biblia is a closed room mystery, not exactly something that sells well in anime, but the fanbase not being typical anime fans as well as being so large made it an easy choose for a live action. Quote:
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2013-01-20, 10:23 | Link #900 |
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It's a shame though because a lot of the series that would be made into live action adaptions I would rather see as anime.
I mean at times I enjoy the live action adaption just as much as the anime (Nodame Cantabile) but usually I just prefer the anime (Honey & Clover) I just wonder why the audience that will read manga is not into watching anime. I guess I don't understand the disconnect between them. I love manga I do but I just feel its easier for me to initially get interested in a property through the anime.
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