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***CrowKenobi*** · 2011-04-14, 00:32

Now where is that doujin panel where Ryoko tried that, Haruhi got wind of it and not only stopped it, but Falcon Punched Ryoko for her troubles!

mielipuoli · 2011-04-14, 00:32

Anything else can be explained, reverted, or somehow guided back and away from the result that Ryoko might want to see - namely, provoking Haruhi to generate something truly amazing. Think about it; how much closer would they be to their goal of self-controlled evolution (or even forced metamorphasis) if they could resurrect the dead like that? Not simply rewriting data, but by watching haruhi will it into existence. If Haruhi can break a "law" that big, then what could the ISDE (or SCD) do?

Coreyrn · 2011-04-14, 04:43

Spoiler for NSFW:

Kogetsu Shirogane · 2011-04-14, 06:15

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Originally Posted by Coreyrn

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... she's just going to get away again...

Grahf616 · 2011-04-14, 16:09

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Originally Posted by CrowKenobi

Now where is that doujin panel where Ryoko tried that, Haruhi got wind of it and not only stopped it, but Falcon Punched Ryoko for her troubles!

At your service:

Spoiler for Slightly NSFW:

Well, she provoked Haruhi enough to make her generate those brass knuckles out of nowhere.

Roger Rambo · 2011-04-14, 16:55

She even used a spiked knuckle.

Does she keep it on her? Or did she materialize it for this occasion?

Kogetsu Shirogane · 2011-04-14, 18:10

The Power of the Punch!

ijuinkun · 2011-04-14, 21:14

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Originally Posted by mielipuoli

Anything else can be explained, reverted, or somehow guided back and away from the result that Ryoko might want to see - namely, provoking Haruhi to generate something truly amazing. Think about it; how much closer would they be to their goal of self-controlled evolution (or even forced metamorphasis) if they could resurrect the dead like that? Not simply rewriting data, but by watching haruhi will it into existence. If Haruhi can break a "law" that big, then what could the ISDE (or SCD) do?

True, but Ryoko seems to be disregarding the rather high probability of the other thing that Haruhi would do should she discover that Ryoko is connected to Kyon's death--retroactively eradicating Ryoko and possibly the entire ISDE itself. Ryoko seems clearly convinced that any possibility of reprisal against the ISDE is unlikely enough for the risk to be worth taking. (We know that Haruhi's power is capable of eliminating the ISDE or at least blocking it from acting within our solar system because of the ISDE's inability to block or revert Yuki's alterations to the timeline in "Disappearance".) Anybody with any grasp of human psychology (and Ryoko seemed to have enough to manipulate people at least) would understand that most humans, once they got over the initial shock, would react to a murder with anger and attempt vengeance if an appropriate target could be found.

Ithekro · 2011-04-14, 22:11

The ISDE doesn't seem to understand Haruhi's power yet, and I assume any data Yuki have from the various incidents she kept to preserve the timeline...so Ryoko doesn't know about them.

mielipuoli · 2011-04-15, 02:01

Attempt vengeance perhaps, but I think some scientists would agree that the destruction of a valuable sample is worth it to determine the potential benefit. Especially ones that don't apparently have a working concept of death amongst themselves as we do. Notice Ryoko's awareness of her prior fate in Disappearance? Maybe the ISDE types can't be killed by any logical means...and if they cannot figure out how to directly improve their own species despite rewriting the operating system of the universe, maybe they cannot figure out the concept of "absolute deletion." Consider the ISDE aliens to be a sentient form of the law of Conservation of Information - it's a physical constant of the universe that they cannot be truly destroyed. (Idly, even a black hole doesn't destroy information, there's theories now postulating them as a three-dimensional hologram of a four-dimensional object, and thus the paradox is at least partially addressed, though heavily handwaved)

Haruhi goes beyond a lot of those laws.

Ithekro · 2011-04-15, 02:09

Haruhi has enough trouble obeying local laws, much less those of physics or quantum mechanics

Roger Rambo · 2011-04-15, 06:39

Just a chapter title from the manga (E8 part 2), but Haruhi in this kind of outfit is beyond delicious.

I'm not sure pre meeting Kyon would have bothered throwing on the shorts before doing this

Kogetsu Shirogane · 2011-04-15, 07:41

Is it sad that the chibi versions of Mikuru, Koizumi and Nagato drew my attention away from Haruhi?

Roger Rambo · 2011-04-15, 07:43

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Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

Is it sad that the chibi versions of Mikuru, Koizumi and Nagato drew my attention away from Haruhi?

That seems rather unbelievable given the display Haruhi's putting on

AmyElizzabeth · 2011-04-16, 12:26

Just bringin' in some Kuyoh.

Kogetsu Shirogane · 2011-04-16, 13:13

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Originally Posted by AmyElizzabeth

Just bringin' in some Kuyoh.

... Every time I look at that girl, she creeps me out... I've never understand why.

Skane · 2011-04-16, 17:26

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Originally Posted by Kogetsu Shirogane

... Every time I look at that girl, she creeps me out... I've never understand why.

Makes me want to tweak her nose.

Natch.

Roger Rambo · 2011-04-16, 17:41

Ravenblitz · 2011-04-16, 18:36

RandySyler · 2011-04-16, 20:01

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Originally Posted by Roger Rambo

That is really pretty.

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*CrowKenobi* One PUNCH! Administrator Join Date: Dec 2005	Now where is that doujin panel where Ryoko tried that, Haruhi got wind of it and not only stopped it, but Falcon Punched Ryoko for her troubles!

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mielipuoli Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	Anything else can be explained, reverted, or somehow guided back and away from the result that Ryoko might want to see - namely, provoking Haruhi to generate something truly amazing. Think about it; how much closer would they be to their goal of self-controlled evolution (or even forced metamorphasis) if they could resurrect the dead like that? Not simply rewriting data, but by watching haruhi will it into existence. If Haruhi can break a "law" that big, then what could the ISDE (or SCD) do?

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Coreyrn Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010	Spoiler for NSFW:

2011-04-14, 16:55	Link #15626
Roger Rambo Sensei, aishite imasu Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hong Kong Shatterdome	She even used a spiked knuckle. Does she keep it on her? Or did she materialize it for this occasion?

2011-04-15, 02:01	Link #15630
mielipuoli Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2010	Attempt vengeance perhaps, but I think some scientists would agree that the destruction of a valuable sample is worth it to determine the potential benefit. Especially ones that don't apparently have a working concept of death amongst themselves as we do. Notice Ryoko's awareness of her prior fate in Disappearance? Maybe the ISDE types can't be killed by any logical means...and if they cannot figure out how to directly improve their own species despite rewriting the operating system of the universe, maybe they cannot figure out the concept of "absolute deletion." Consider the ISDE aliens to be a sentient form of the law of Conservation of Information - it's a physical constant of the universe that they cannot be truly destroyed. (Idly, even a black hole doesn't destroy information, there's theories now postulating them as a three-dimensional hologram of a four-dimensional object, and thus the paradox is at least partially addressed, though heavily handwaved) Haruhi goes beyond a lot of those laws.

2011-04-15, 06:39	Link #15632
Roger Rambo Sensei, aishite imasu Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hong Kong Shatterdome	Just a chapter title from the manga (E8 part 2), but Haruhi in this kind of outfit is beyond delicious. I'm not sure pre meeting Kyon would have bothered throwing on the shorts before doing this

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AmyElizzabeth Moo Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Iowa Age: 28	Just bringin' in some Kuyoh.

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Roger Rambo Sensei, aishite imasu Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Hong Kong Shatterdome