World of Tanks

[Sumeragi]

Your avatar fits the situation.

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

Anyone be on playing in the next hour or so, I'll be around failing it up if you want a human shield.

[Myssa Rei]

Platooned with both Sahin the Falcon again and Achiuakuna this afternoon, as I replaced Pen3 when he logged off. Had a nice set of games when I used my E-75, though I never did win on my T-54 during the platoon. Achi had terrible luck with his E-50 for example.

Then after that, had another hilarious stream of tier 5 games with Kimi and Macrossfighter. Made me feel a whole lot better after the high-tiers.

One of the after-action screens of that session:

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Didn't carry, but we did most of the stuff right, especially when a KV-5, Lowe, and IS-6 somehow punched through the side beach with only the SP defending that side. I helped pin down the KV-5, then track the IS-6, before Achi joined me in finishing off the Lowe.

[Mr Hat and Clogs]

Had a couple amusing matches, got picked on cause I don't have 1000+ matches in my M6A2E1 though.

[Gravitas Free Zone]

8.6 supertest arty numbers... for now.

Spoiler for A couple of paragraphs of quoted commentary.:

Originally Posted by dswartze

So, unless there's something else we don't know about here's what's going to happen.

People are still going to get hit by artillery. Maybe not as often, but it will still happen and when it does they may get 1-shot or take massive damage, and be upset, and there will still be cries of "remove arty from the game" and every other complaint that we see now.

It will also frustrate arty players a huge amount. most of the complaints about arty seem to come from people who don't understand how hard it can be to actually hit somebody.

Also, when they can't hit anything ever anymore, teams are going to do the "arty sux" or "it's all arty's fault, not the fault of us the people who drove into the open and got shot and died" because all they'll see is a bunch of arty with 0 kills, and nobody taking any damage (plus, if anybody goes anywhere near enemy tanks you can expect friendly fire).

In the end, this means that the people who hate arty will still hate it, and blame SPGs for the reason they're not having fun. The people who play arty are going to hate things because everything got all around worse for them. And the people who don't care either way are still going to get frustrated by "useless" and "sucky" players on their team because there's nothing the arty can do.

So everybody loses. I can't imagine this being the whole story, perhaps there's something else. Maybe the current accuracy counts the distance the shell travels, and the new one counts the distance between where it was fired from -> where it lands. Maybe there will be a massive increase in the blast radius so that even though you miss every shot, you still do a little damage. The lack of price changes also makes me think that these are still a work in progress, I don't picture tier 10s being available for ~3.5 million when the patch goes live.

[Myssa Rei]

Originally Posted by Mr Hat and Clogs

Had a couple amusing matches, got picked on cause I don't have 1000+ matches in my M6A2E1 though.

Given how one can't even get it anymore, people expect a good win percentage or more games on it, and not essentially treating it as a trophy tank.

Bah, kind of wish they put back the German Hotchkiss too...

[Kamijou_Touma]

Yeah you only do that at that tier. Heh if the rumor is true and they do make tier 1 thru 10 arty and scouts..... Then u might see tier 1 arty in tier 1 games. Then see tier 10 scouts and arties in tier 10 matches.

Mow Mow, lol, so his big excuse for not studying and doing school work was I need more WoT. It's like saying to ur professor's lecture saying cool story bro but it needs more tanks. LOL.

[Gravitas Free Zone]

Viewing mechanics in this game are a hilarious thing.

[Achiuakuna]

Originally Posted by Myssa Rei

Platooned with both Sahin the Falcon again and Achiuakuna this afternoon, as I replaced Pen3 when he logged off. Had a nice set of games when I used my E-75, though I never did win on my T-54 during the platoon. Achi had terrible luck with his E-50 for example.

Then after that, had another hilarious stream of tier 5 games with Kimi and Macrossfighter. Made me feel a whole lot better after the high-tiers.

One of the after-action screens of that session:

Didn't carry, but we did most of the stuff right, especially when a KV-5, Lowe, and IS-6 somehow punched through the side beach with only the SP defending that side. I helped pin down the KV-5, then track the IS-6, before Achi joined me in finishing off the Lowe.

I can use some E-50 lessons. It's the most unforgiving tank I have ever played Everything about it is just.... awkward.

[RRW]

oh hi achi

[Achiuakuna]

Originally Posted by RRW

oh hi achi

Hi~

Guess I'll be using here more often ^^

[Tak]

Originally Posted by Achiuakuna

I can use some E-50 lessons. It's the most unforgiving tank I have ever played Everything about it is just.... awkward.

Everything about that tank is wrong. For a tier 10 medium amongst other Cold War tanks, the E-50 stands out as one of the worst oddities. Its neither a medium nor a heavy, just.plain.weird.

- Tak

[Achiuakuna]

Originally Posted by Tak

Everything about that tank is wrong. For a tier 10 medium amongst other Cold War tanks, the E-50 stands out as one of the worst oddities. Its neither a medium nor a heavy, just.plain.weird.

- Tak

The gun depression does not feel like -6 at all. I think the gun is capable of depression -6 degrees, it's just that the tank hull puts a stop to it because the surface is too close to the gun. I have to expose myself completely to shoot at anything

[Gravitas Free Zone]

Rapid Fire Weekend

Too bad I already repurchased the 1602 Leopard... but I might finally get the AMX 12t so I can start masochising myself all over again.

[Achiuakuna]

This is a weekend I can afford to miss. I don't have any light tanks and I'll be on an airplane.

[LeoXiao]

Originally Posted by Achiuakuna

I can use some E-50 lessons. It's the most unforgiving tank I have ever played Everything about it is just.... awkward.

Me, Daigensui/Sumeragi, and UTE/Endless Knackwurst have E50Ms and can probably platoon with you if you want to see how the tank ought to be played. The E50 is pretty much the E50M with a worse gun.

The E50M... doesn't know if it wants to be a heavy or a medium. Its speed and lack of good armor would indicate that it's a medium, but its size and handling makes it seem like a heavy. It's best used as a support tank for real heavies. IMO it is good for flanking while the heavies take on the enemy from the front. Against other mediums the E50 is not so great, but it isn't terrible either.

[Sumeragi]

I'm a maverick in that I regularly brawl other tier 10 mediums and usually come on top.


My suggestion: Sit back at first, and see how the team is being divided. Your armor is enough that you'll be virtually immune to any non-artillery enemy fire from around 300 meters with decent angling. Keep your distance and snipe away at the enemy. Once the endgame is close, go in for the kill, using your speed and weight to bully all tanks except the American and German heavies.

[Achiuakuna]

Originally Posted by Sumeragi

I'm a maverick in that I regularly brawl other tier 10 mediums and usually come on top.


My suggestion: Sit back at first, and see how the team is being divided. Your armor is enough that you'll be virtually immune to any non-artillery enemy fire from around 300 meters with decent angling. Keep your distance and snipe away at the enemy. Once the endgame is close, go in for the kill, using your speed and weight to bully all tanks except the American and German heavies.

I see. So the timing is quite different from Panther II huh. For Panther II I was able to participate early on. This one doesn't seem to work the same way.

Either the tanks are different or the tier 9/10 gameplay is different from 8 by itself.

[Spectacular_Insanity]

Originally Posted by Endless Knackwurst

8.6 supertest arty numbers... for now.

Spoiler for A couple of paragraphs of quoted commentary.:

As I said to the other players in the AnimeSuki guild, the developers are going the wrong way about the nerf.

What they should have done is halved the damage of the arties, upped the penetration by about 20%, and left everything else the same. What people are annoyed by is getting instantly 1-shot from across the map. This is especially the case with the T8 American Arty because it does a whopping 2.2k damage on average per hit, assuming the number gods are in your favor.

Arties would then still be able to deal damage, they just wouldn't have the derpy derp 1HKO ability at higher tiers. (Because no matter how you slice it, a full-health IS-6 or Tiger II, etc. instantly dying in one hit is ridiculous.) Also, setting a hard limit to 2 arties max per team would also be a good way to reduce the rage. Any more than 3 arties (I see SO MANY games where there are 4 arties on each side) is neither fun for the SPGs nor for anyone else.

But no. The way they're going to nerf it won't actually resolve what people are actually complaining about... dying in one hit from something they can't see. People will still die in one hit, because people are too stupid to realize you need to take LOS cover and NOT SIT STILL IN THE OPEN.

Unless of course, they're simply deliberately trying to strongarm the WOT population by making people ragequit arty. Considering how underpowered the German tanks are and how overpowered the Russian tanks are, I wouldn't put much past the developers.

[Sumeragi]

Originally Posted by Achiuakuna

Either the tanks are different or the tier 9/10 gameplay is different from 8 by itself.

The tanks are the same, but the enemies change drastically, since you're more likely to face tier 9/10 which can be brutal against medium tanks.