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2012-08-31, 00:41 | Link #2924 |
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This is just a joke really.
Ezelcant , who is pretty much responsible for 70 years of war and death, gets to pass away peacefully with his wife at his side and everything gets dumped on Zeheart. I can't decide if that's just sad or stupid. He doesn't deserve that honorable death, he should've been shot by his own subordinates given how low he sank. I think they completely destroyed his character, and then didn't even give him proper justice.
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2012-08-31, 01:03 | Link #2925 | ||
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Just like I would have no sympathy towards a Nazi whom was kind and caring to his fellow Nazi members but rounds up the Jews to the camps and saluting Hilter proudly. Zeheart is merely the same thing.
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2012-08-31, 05:27 | Link #2926 | |
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I gotta say, I love that beam weedwacker thing, fucked that Gafran up nicely. It's a shame it wasn't in the anime, would have gone great in the episode. I also love how the Gafran just takes off after seeing it. It's like the pilot said "Oh fuck this I'm out!" |
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2012-08-31, 05:39 | Link #2927 |
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What's this about some game spoiling the ending of age? I personally don't take it with any grain of salt but this has turned up in a few places like gamefaqs(Like that's realiable.... Well, it's reliable for SRW but this was on the Overworld Board and Age 3 isn't even set to appear in that game).
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2012-08-31, 05:56 | Link #2928 | |
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Don't know what to say about Nazi thing, but few people would be capable to completely give up everything they have for the sake of others. Maybe I'm too soft, but i think that alone deserves respect. |
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2012-08-31, 06:54 | Link #2930 | |
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With too much contrast between 3 main protagonists , the main story cannot go advanced. The final battle will never happen before battle between 3 Asunos. - Flit wants only genocide - Kio blindly wants to save everyone while both Vagan and EFs never want - Asem's standpoint is never cleared - Vagans don't have any good commander to match with 3 Asunos - Too many good people on Vagan side Zeheart , Fram , Deen It seems if Flit isn't got rid , the story cannot continue. To prevent this, the only one way the director can do : Make all vagans evils When one side is totally evil, the other side's doing is always good whether genocide or not - makes Zenald kill Deen - makes Zeheart kill his friend - makes Zera Gins to be the common enemy Now there are only bad and silly Vagans , they only mess things up , any action to do on them will feel reasoned : open way to Flit's reason Common Enemy : open way to Kio's reason Zehatto goes wrong : open way to Asem's reason All good vagans just have to be dumped , or just being wiped out Zeheart's character must be sacrificed to solve this strucked plot and Fram must die as well as Deen. Last edited by Frioniel; 2012-08-31 at 07:19. |
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2012-08-31, 07:51 | Link #2931 | |
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2012-08-31, 09:27 | Link #2933 | |
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Everything for the Federation was corrupt but that's about as far as it went. Even with Renai it turned out that the Federation was framed for her accident which led to her betraying them. One major problem of this show though is character development. I mean how many characters have we seen get put into the show and then forgotten without so much of a cry? |
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2012-08-31, 09:38 | Link #2934 | |
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I'd say Zeheart is a tragic character in the Shakespearen sense - in that he made his own end like Julius Caesar and not that "it was so sad!" way we usually use the word, and I still don't think that automatically make us have to respect or sympathise with him just because he was a tragic character.
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2012-08-31, 10:32 | Link #2935 |
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Zeheart is not tragic, he just goes from being a decent chracter to a joke in the span of a few episodes. He loses all reasoning ability and ends up doing things that go against the character that was developed all throughout the series. That's just Destiny level writing right there.
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2012-08-31, 10:46 | Link #2936 |
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No Revolutionist he is tragic - again in the Shakespearen/literacy way not the usual way we usually associate the meaning with the word which is "it's so sad the way he died".
Again he could've turned for the better - think for himself and not follow Ezelcant's crazy ideals, his time in Gen 2 with Romary and Asemu could've been the doorway to something better, but he chooses not to and believe in Ezelcant. He made this end for himself. This is tragic in the Shakespearen way like Julius Casear - the audience can see every step Casear took which led to his undoing and ultimately his death, Zeheart had been doing the same thing here for the entire show - for every time he spared Asemu and for every time he unquestionably follow Ezelcant's crazy orders to "better" humankind was one more step towards his own downfall. Also he lost all reasoning ability way before Ezelcant revealed Project Eden to him - admit it what he did in beginning of Gen 3 is proof of this. Again as I've said to you long before you've bought into his pretty words but if you take a step back he wasn't much of a decent character on bigger issues.
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2012-08-31, 11:52 | Link #2939 | |
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So they perfect the shielding but does that apply to only Second Moon or the remaining Vagan Colony/ies as well? Because if it's just SM then this ending is just facepalm inducing. All it takes is for 1 colony left to get screwed over and they start terrorism or hell maybe even all out war against those they feel wronged them..
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2012-08-31, 11:58 | Link #2940 |
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I'm not quite understand why did they even stop fighting. Just because Flit (almost?) blown them up but then had change of mind and aided in rescue mission? As it happens, this vagans are surprisingly forgiving and understanding guys.
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