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View Poll Results: Gurren-Lagann - Episode 18 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 23 | 27.06% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 29 | 34.12% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 21 | 24.71% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 8 | 9.41% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 2 | 2.35% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 1.18% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.18% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2007-08-01, 19:09 | Link #82 |
ニア ☆ 命
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Both FSN and Nadia seem more serious in my opinion, especially FSN's Sakura's story. Can't say anything for Nadia. So aohige can be right in using the word "parody" since GL is quite a funny series. Well perhaps we're that bad in English so can you tell me a better word instead of homage or parody or spoof or whatever?
Maybe mimicry is a better word? I still don't think homage is suitable here in this case since I still don't know the intention behind Nia's scenario. Could be purely coincidental. Or you are right, it is indeed a "homage" to Nadia/Nono whatever. I don't care about the use of words actually since I get what aohige is trying to convey. |
2007-08-01, 19:12 | Link #83 | |
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Sakura was a really trashy heroin anyway - Nia still has potential to be brought back, she hasn't done anything 'evil'! |
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2007-08-01, 19:12 | Link #84 |
Mixtape
Join Date: Feb 2006
Age: 35
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Nadia wasn't more serious than Gurren-Lagann... if fact they share a very similar plot development structure even if GL is probably better described as Gunbuster's next incarnation.
As for Nia's condition... we really don't know completely what actually happened to her. For once she wasn't took over like Dark Sakura or infested like Kerrigan in Starcraft, it's either more akin to a second personality waking up or she becoming a DtB's contractor if they actually followed their own "lack of feelings" statements. |
2007-08-01, 19:17 | Link #85 | |
ニア ☆ 命
Join Date: Feb 2004
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And I like Sakura's story, at least better than Saber. Rin is still the best though. To each his own. |
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2007-08-01, 21:49 | Link #86 |
Snobby Gentleman
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Monterrey, México
Age: 43
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Tell Me the Secrets of This World
I would refer to this episode as Revelations part one, since it successfully and eagerly answered the multifacetic mysteries regarding the world of Gurren-Lagann.
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2007-08-02, 13:40 | Link #87 |
Mahjong Triple Pro
Join Date: Sep 2006
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>>The planet is indeed the Earth.
That information was confirmed at Fanime IIRC. I wasn't in San Jose the day that panel took place, but a number of other folk reported the same information, though incidentally the first real concrete information came from Arlong Park. |
2007-08-02, 22:30 | Link #88 |
Seishu's Ace
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Kobe, Japan
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Y'know, it's not every series that can take not one, but two left turns - and still keep the audience enthralled. First we started off with the "Kamina Arc", which more or less built the series around him - and then abruptly (if not unexpectedly) killed him off. Then we went to a coming-of-age story and romance mixed with the apocalyptic battle sequences. Then, a time jump - and all preconceptions of good and evil are jumbled, as the story shifts to politics and betrayal. Amazing. I love the new arc so far - Simon turned out just as courageous and simplistic as I would have expected, and I love the Nanoha-esque character designs of Gimmy and Darry. What next - Viral teams up with Simon in a rebellion against the despicable Rossiu? Yoko rides in to the rescue?
This one is definitely claiming it's place in the Gainax hierarchy. Very, very good stuff. |
2007-08-02, 23:37 | Link #89 | |
~Night of Gales~
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Join Date: Dec 2005
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As for Rossiu, I believe that the character development of him prior to the time-skip had a meaning, however sublime. If not, they just wasted it. I expect Rossiu to turn heads and make people reevaluate their judgment of him within 2 or 3 episodes time.
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2007-08-02, 23:56 | Link #90 | |
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As for Rossiu, well - there have been enough turns in this story to make anything feasible, and he may just be showing himself to be the ultimate pragmatist - much like his philosophical soul-mate, Lord Genome. Still - for "Forehead" to turn on his closest friend so quickly, even if he did think he was doing it for the common good and not to mention basically forming a shadow government behind said friend's back - is pretty sleazy. |
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2007-08-03, 07:53 | Link #91 | |
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: In the frozen wastes of the Province of Quebec, Canada.
Age: 48
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I half hope that Rossiu doesn't redeem himself, at least not completely. |
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2007-08-03, 09:32 | Link #92 |
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My reponse to that is you cant lead from behind. I actually respect Simon for wanting to get out there and fight. If you are willing to order troops into battle to face death you better be willing to do the same. Seeing their leader on the battlefield can raise troops moral which is important in times of conflict
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2007-08-03, 10:18 | Link #93 | |
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As for the betrayal...I'm wagering that it's a show for the population. If anything, it would be best for both of them if Simon "broke out" and operated on his own. Operating without the constraints of the "executive" role is best for him, and the scapegoating calms those ungrateful and fickle masses. I'm leaning towards the belief that Rossiu is just operating a different angle on the "good" side, that he would be fine with Simon's break out, and that things will eventually reconcile. Having Rossiu and his government collapse would kinda screw the possibility of a decent counter-attack against the Anti-Spirals, though it's entirely possible that he and his followers will get shafted. |
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2007-08-03, 14:21 | Link #94 |
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: In the frozen wastes of the Province of Quebec, Canada.
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Simon wasn't much of a leader anyway. He was leading the fight more because he had Gurren-Lagann and he was REALLY motivated. The Gurren Dan was more than happy to support him too.
But let's face it, Nia was the one with the charisma. She was the one keeping the team working together, she was the one keeping troops focused when they were starting to run around like a pack of panicked chickens. She would have been perfect for the current crisis too; put up a big hollogram of her just in frot of the crowd and have her work her magic, telling them to stop panicking as they are dealing with the currnet crisis, and all will be OK in a few days, and voilà! No more rioting. Now, having this very charismatic individual appear on every monitor in the city saying how she's about to slaughter the entire human race is not helping morale too much... |
2010-06-15, 23:00 | Link #97 |
Let's Go, My Friends.
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: California
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I agree. People treat Simon like crap. He is the damn reason that they are free in the first place. Without him, who would of kicked all that Genome ass? Nobody. All those whiny villagers should sit down. /rant over.
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