2015-02-05, 04:56 | Link #2461 | |
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Hoping that there will be an epilogue ova though.
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2015-02-05, 05:04 | Link #2462 |
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The author writes as much volumes as he wants to finish the story and if he aims to make a third and final season he will do this as well. Haganai is still one of the most popular shows and everyone wants to know how it turns out. And after all... the author has a message for his audience.
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2015-02-05, 05:46 | Link #2463 | |
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I also don't know what you're talking about even WITH the epilogue volume the author has already moved on from the story and is currently writing another project. There just isn't enough material for another season we may get a couple of OVA's... MAYBE. But I wouldn't hold my breathe. The LN's weren't THAT popular to begin with even the manga has had it's staff cut to save money, have you seen the art of the newest chapters? The editor turned the story from a slice of life comedy about a group of misfits trying to make friends into another run of the mill romantic comedy harem without the charm it had in the beginning.
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2015-02-05, 06:13 | Link #2464 | |
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2015-02-05, 08:02 | Link #2465 |
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Agreed. Before the harem stupidity the story reminded me of Oreromcom with small hints of romance but the main focus being about the characters' growth and interaction with each other. It's a shame really this used to be one of my favorite LN's but after volume 6 and 7 I just couldn't read it anymore. Season 2 was rushed and a downgrade compared to the first, the ending to the LN's was alright I guess but the author totally rushed the story just glossing over Yozora's trauma and Sena's and her's friendship scene was retarded as hell, I just hope that Rika or Sena wins in the end to be honest since I doubt Kodaka and Yuki will last long during the epilogue.
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2015-02-05, 08:15 | Link #2466 |
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To be honest it's still popular and one of the flagship title of MF Bunko J, but after the release of the 10th volume, sadly but truthfully the sparkle of this series is bit by bit became rusty thus removing it from the top 30 LN sales last year... but still it is consider a popular series despite of that.
Considering the second season only did about 70% (69%+ based on the calculated sales) of the anime, but still the average is 6080 BD sales and that is still high enough to made another season (comparing those anime with a second season but the sales is around 3k sales or less...) but as I stated earlier, Kadokawa is notorious for being cheap when it comes in making a sequel of an anime even though there is enough material and sales.
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2015-02-05, 08:18 | Link #2467 | |
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See thats not it. The first season establishes a premise of the neighbors club as a bunch of loners who gathered together and made a club kodaka's massive flaws can be ignored but u didnt do much with it. The hints were there about the truth for Yozora but again their hindsight hints. Once its revealed at the end of season 1 or whatever volume its revealed the story takes a complete 360. Now you realize the neighbors club was a way to rekindle an old friendship without it being known as an old friendship and really everything else came out of nowhere. Sena's feelings for Kodoka seem random the engagement is definitely stupid and yozora's meltdown is not only unnecessary but self inflicted. All a "3rd season" would do is pretty much take that meltdown and magnify it to a painful level.
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2015-02-05, 18:09 | Link #2469 | |
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Kodaka: Cant find a good thing about the guy to be frank and his stupidity was painful Yozora: She has an attitude for days and her cluelessness makes it hard to ignore the fact that she is actually attractive. Sena: The definition of dumb blonde her love of galges is almost as creepy as her obsession with Kodaka Rika: God its hard to hate Rika but its also hard to like her Maria: Why is she there? Kobato: Again why is she there
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2015-02-05, 18:15 | Link #2470 | |
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2015-02-05, 18:18 | Link #2471 | |
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The fact that the Sena kodaka couple came out of really nowhere doesnt help it at all.
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2015-02-05, 22:30 | Link #2472 | |
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But, we need a really really really good V11, to make up for the lack of development that came from V10.... though I think that's impossible unless Haganai would restart aka SAO Progressive or I.Stratos that jumped from another publisher.
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2015-02-05, 22:58 | Link #2473 | |
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Agreed. I need some closure from this trainwreck of a story.
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2015-02-07, 02:10 | Link #2474 | |
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I feel like you're overstated both how "bad" the content got, how bad the editorial "politics" were, and how much of an impact this had on the series' on-going popularity. It seems to me that it's more a question of momentum than anything else. The studio has little to do with it. The problem is there's nothing to sell. Media Factory/Kadokawa makes anime to help sell more books (they're book publishers primarily), but right now there aren't a bunch of new books to sell. If it were just for the anime sales themselves, based on the sales of the previous season, it'd be a much safer investment than many of the other shows they'll likely try. If the book situation resolves itself and the momentum for the franchise comes back, they may very well continue the anime, as that may be a way to bring attention back to the franchise. The animation studio isn't really central to the issue; if Media Factory wanted to make a new anime, they could contract out to a new studio. But again, it's not very likely to happen unless it can be accompanied by a whole lot of new merchandise: books, manga, music CDs, character goods, the works. Without new art from Buriki or new characters/content, they're basically stalled. (And yeah, maybe they could just switch artists if the author was determined to move forward anyway, but this has its own set of consequences.)
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2015-02-07, 02:39 | Link #2475 |
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True enough about the sales, the reason the editor vs author situation comes to mind for me is that it's been mentioned how badly the relationship has gotten between the author and the publisher. My cousin showed me an article(he actually translated it for me since he know I liked Haganai) about how the author refused to be in the same room as the editor during the final revisions of volume 11 and that the artist (who's good friends with both of them) literally just said "fuck this I'm out" was the one who carried messages between them. Apparently the author blamed the editor for the reduced sales because he was the one who wanted to shift the focus from slice of life to romance harem antics while the editor blamed the author saying he didn't know how to take direction. Personally I'm hoping this matter gets resolved soon and the author decides to revisit this series with our protags in their third year. edit; the reason I'm fixated on the dispute is mostly because my step mother is Japanese and knowing their culture if shit got so bad that people around them know what's up and they actually act out, then it must be pretty fucking bad. To me seeing them act out like that is a huge deal especially with how they run things over there.
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2015-02-07, 02:47 | Link #2476 |
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Well... I'm not sure how much we really know about what's going on behind closed doors. We probably hear bits and pieces of what people let slip, but there's probably more going on that we don't know. The situation with Buriki isn't just a question of being caught in the middle of this dispute, because it also impacted all his other work too. So there's more going on than we know.
In the end, I do hope all the issues will be resolved.
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2015-02-08, 22:00 | Link #2479 |
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What I know is that he got sick between volumes which slowed the releases, I think it was gout. Then the feud between editor and author escalated which caused friction between the three of them. After he finished volume 11 he basically just moved on to do his own thing. He started working on another series and is currently waiting for volume 11 of Haganai before he can officially work on another story.
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