AnimeSuki Forums

ReddyRedWolf · 2013-05-06, 04:06

I'm going for the same explanation I gave as to why Touma looks different in Railgun season 1.

This is Misaka Mikoto's story and we are seeing events in her eyes. (Biribiri Vision)

Think of it like the movie Rashomon where the characters tell what happened in their perspective.

Chaos2Frozen · 2013-05-06, 04:10

Then why does he retain that design in Index II ? Its just art improving, not some biribiri vision- as funny as it would be.

But the eyes are something different.

s07195 · 2013-05-07, 10:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daisu

I understand everything now, if this anime done so it was Mikoto POV and the sisters look more humanlike then Shinobu looks cute to Mikoto because those creepy deadfish eyes remind her of gekota.

Mystery solved.

Hahaha.

Yet, this makes more sense than it should.

FlareKnight · 2013-05-08, 15:22

I'm fine with the change. I like the idea of making them actually look human here. What kind of weak cloning process are they using that would leave the eyes really weird? Since they are clones I do think having them physically be the same makes sense.

Primary Consult · 2013-05-08, 18:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlareKnight

I'm fine with the change. I like the idea of making them actually look human here. What kind of weak cloning process are they using that would leave the eyes really weird? Since they are clones I do think having them physically be the same makes sense.

The original point was probably so they looked soulless... of course Last Order never had the large dull eye look with no explanation given for the difference, so I don't think the plot is harmed by changing the sister look. The current design is a good middle ground between the completely normal LO and the original sister look.

FlareKnight · 2013-05-08, 20:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by Primary Consult

The original point was probably so they looked soulless... of course Last Order never had the large dull eye look with no explanation given for the difference, so I don't think the plot is harmed by changing the sister look. The current design is a good middle ground between the completely normal LO and the original sister look.

Yeah, I think it's fine to stay at a level where you can keep that without going full dead eyes. Different enough, but not going too far works fine I think. Plus I think the eyes aren't the only way to appear soulless, expressions and vocal delivery work well too.

Miraluka · 2013-05-08, 21:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Primary Consult

The original point was probably so they looked soulless... of course Last Order never had the large dull eye look with no explanation given for the difference, so I don't think the plot is harmed by changing the sister look. The current design is a good middle ground between the completely normal LO and the original sister look.

Its explained that and why she looks 10 as well.

greensoulreaper · 2013-05-09, 23:18

Which one do you guys prefer? I did some touch ups out of curiosity.

Original:

New:

Shadrala · 2013-05-10, 01:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by greensoulreaper

Which one do you guys prefer? I did some touch ups out of curiosity.

Original:

New:

uhh... Isn't it the other way around?

I personally like the more-Mikoto-look-alike new version

EDIT: Or do you mean "original" as in the Original Mikoto design? Sorry, if that's what you meant ^^U

Rising Dragon · 2013-05-10, 01:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by greensoulreaper

Which one do you guys prefer? I did some touch ups out of curiosity.

Original:

New:

I like both. :V

greensoulreaper · 2013-05-10, 03:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadrala

uhh... Isn't it the other way around?

I personally like the more-Mikoto-look-alike new version

EDIT: Or do you mean "original" as in the Original Mikoto design? Sorry, if that's what you meant ^^U

lol I know what you mean, but I meant to label "original" as in the original untouched screenshot

by the way, no one has mentioned after seeing ep. 4 how good long hair looks on Misaka???

Marina2 · 2013-05-10, 04:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by greensoulreaper

by the way, no one has mentioned after seeing ep. 4 how good long hair looks on Misaka???

That's how Mikoto will look like if she follows the way of elegant and polite of a girl.

Too bad, she grows up to be a tomboyish girl.

kj1980 · 2013-05-10, 21:11

Random Japanese terminology, these eyes in Japanese otaku lingo are called レイプ目 (pron.: reipu me) (lit.: raped eyes).

Stems from illustrations and artwork that deal with those that are raped have these soul-less, "I've lost the will to live" eyes.

OTOH, it doesn't always necessarily have to be rape. It can also mean the character is also blind (PC: visually impaired) like Kawana Misaki from ONE

Or the character has gone yandere like Ayase-tan

Raisingfalcon · 2013-05-10, 23:34

I actually like the sisters more this way. The eyes where a little to much. You could already tell their clones by their speech pattern and the goggles.

Amber Masquerade · 2013-05-11, 00:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raisingfalcon

I actually like the sisters more this way. The eyes where a little to much. You could already tell their clones by their speech pattern and the goggles.

I agree ^^ The only thing is that they have that little orange dot/orb thing in the middle of their eyes, but I really like the change of design. Makes them seem more...human.

MeisterBabylon · 2013-05-11, 02:22

By doing this change, JC Staff think they can sell more merchandise, which given the state of otaku in Japan, is unfortunately justified.

“Screw canonicity, we need money.”

It's a mantra of everything money touches in this world.

Cosmic Eagle · 2013-05-11, 09:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by greensoulreaper

Which one do you guys prefer? I did some touch ups out of curiosity.

Original:

New:

Second one. Fits the MISAKA better.

The Index dead eyes were too opaque in some scenes IMO

demonkevy666 · 2013-05-11, 09:38

9,982 perfect look alike clone vs 10,032 dead eyes clone

something happened after 10,000 or 50 more clones. lol just saying.

Kakkou · 2013-05-11, 09:41

I like the redesign, though personally I think the eyes would look just about right like this:

Maybe even remove the lighter highlight and leave the one underneath. Either way the small brown spot of reflected light gave the clones a little too much life and not enough dead fish.

ronelm2000 · 2013-05-16, 23:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kakkou

I like the redesign, though personally I think the eyes would look just about right like this:

Maybe even remove the lighter highlight and leave the one underneath. Either way the small brown spot of reflected light gave the clones a little too much life and not enough dead fish.

I like it. Looks just as modern as this one, yet keeps the "lifeless" aura.

2013-05-06, 04:10	Link #62
Chaos2Frozen We're Back Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Redgrave City Age: 35	Then why does he retain that design in Index II ? Its just art improving, not some biribiri vision- as funny as it would be. But the eyes are something different. __________________ Devil Trigger , Subhuman , Crimson Cloud , Mad Qualia

2013-05-08, 15:22	Link #64
FlareKnight User of the "Fast Draw" Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada	I'm fine with the change. I like the idea of making them actually look human here. What kind of weak cloning process are they using that would leave the eyes really weird? Since they are clones I do think having them physically be the same makes sense. __________________ Anime-Evo

2013-05-10, 23:34	Link #74
Raisingfalcon Class minus 13 Join Date: Apr 2013	I actually like the sisters more this way. The eyes where a little to much. You could already tell their clones by their speech pattern and the goggles. __________________

2013-05-11, 02:22	Link #76
MeisterBabylon ~ Your Smile ~ Author Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 346Pro Age: 38	By doing this change, JC Staff think they can sell more merchandise, which given the state of otaku in Japan, is unfortunately justified. “Screw canonicity, we need money.” It's a mantra of everything money touches in this world. __________________ 白露型駆逐艦の４番艦、夕立です。第三次ソロモン海戦では、けっこう頑張ったっぽい★？

2013-05-06, 04:06	Link #61
ReddyRedWolf Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006	I'm going for the same explanation I gave as to why Touma looks different in Railgun season 1. This is Misaka Mikoto's story and we are seeing events in her eyes. (Biribiri Vision) Think of it like the movie Rashomon where the characters tell what happened in their perspective.

2013-05-09, 23:18	Link #68
greensoulreaper こんにちは Join Date: Nov 2011	Which one do you guys prefer? I did some touch ups out of curiosity. Original: New:

2013-05-10, 21:11	Link #73
kj1980 Gomen asobase desuwa! Join Date: Nov 2003 Age: 43	Random Japanese terminology, these eyes in Japanese otaku lingo are called レイプ目 (pron.: reipu me) (lit.: raped eyes). Stems from illustrations and artwork that deal with those that are raped have these soul-less, "I've lost the will to live" eyes. OTOH, it doesn't always necessarily have to be rape. It can also mean the character is also blind (PC: visually impaired) like Kawana Misaki from ONE Or the character has gone yandere like Ayase-tan

2013-05-11, 09:38	Link #78
demonkevy666 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: the bowls of hell.	9,982 perfect look alike clone vs 10,032 dead eyes clone something happened after 10,000 or 50 more clones. lol just saying.

2013-05-11, 09:41	Link #79
Kakkou Tch. Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Australia	I like the redesign, though personally I think the eyes would look just about right like this: Maybe even remove the lighter highlight and leave the one underneath. Either way the small brown spot of reflected light gave the clones a little too much life and not enough dead fish.