To Aru Majutsu no Index Light Novel Discussion (Archives)

[Used Can]

Yes, as far as I've read, the scene with Tōma "dying" took place during his fight against Aqua in volume 16.

[LastResolve]

btw did touma used in novels his full potential of imagine breaker?

[shmaster]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

Spoiler:

I think he helped the plan to summon fuse=kazakiri though I'm not sure because accelerator is asking him for the cure of the virus. And I think the virus is that their talking about is kazakiri. Due to overload on the system the imouto and LO are both down. The funny part about this guy is even though his a scientist when he saw the wings of kazakiri its like he doesn't have to much questions and also when the black wings of accelerator sprout the first thing he come up with is angel. Well in black wings mode accelerator can do the "impossible as in impossible he clearly broke the laws of physics their. Without further question I think when a man can't come up with an answer they always say its a miracle of god. I love their battle and accelerator die their but been reborn into an angel well a god of death to be exact. His completely opposite of kakine's seraphic wings.

Spoiler:

Well, Alister ordered him directly to curropt Last order with the virus to envoke Huze=Kazakiri. So I assume he has a good deal of knowledge on how artifical angel work. Also note that Accelerator's wings really has nothing to do with the gods. Accelerator over writes the reality by expanding his own power through downloading the AIM Field.

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by shmaster

Spoiler:

Well, Alister ordered him directly to curropt Last order with the virus to envoke Huze=Kazakiri. So I assume he has a good deal of knowledge on how artifical angel work. Also note that Accelerator's wings really has nothing to do with the gods. Accelerator over writes the reality by expanding his own power through downloading the AIM Field.

That's true. But what's the purpose of using wings? The 1st and 2nd just like their power are far cry from the 3rd and about. And just as Aiwass said that those 2 are special in a way they are special that they can produce wings. So whats the main reason? being their are not even related to religion side and all. They are the strongest on the science side but their evolution from a mere esper to a what an angelic being............ I don't know but they are sure to be special.

[cubicjack]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

The author did mention it that mikoto will be having a major role soon but she's not going to russia so if the final battle is really coming then when will she get those parts? unless its not the ending yet which I wish to be true.

As for touma died on vol 14....... yap I think he did die or maybe its 16. Not sure but its the battle against aqua. His literally supposed to be dead but then again live on to see tomorrow. And Touma dying in front of itsuwa triggers an anger rage and divine spear move thiny...( not sure about the name ) and beat aqua but the superman aqua is still alive and healthy so his just got beaten their.

and also from what the spoiler on vol 19.... did I read it right? the part that she will burn is THAT PART? please confirm..... its an important one for futures sake of THAT person.

I really hope by "major role", he doesn't just mean that Mikoto will confess when everything ends and become Touma's significant other half. Other than that, I really don't know how she's going to get a piece of the fight. Maybe with Accelerator going away, she'll end up taking care of stuff inside Academy City somehow.

As for the Touma dying in 14 part, I'd say he wasn't even close to dying in that volume. But yeah, in 16, however, he was utterly destroyed by Aqua. Itsuwa just broke down and kept on trying to heal him with her magic, despite the magic being broken because of Touma's hand.

And yes, if I read that part in vol. 19 correctly, then you read my post correctly. She even called it the "pink XXX" (yes, the author actually put 3 X's there).

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by cubicjack

My only worry is that the side characters (especially Mikoto) won't get much of a role in the final arc (or what seems to be the final arc)..

Maybe but if the author does it, she is not going to have something relevant to do for the future of Railgun, when she had a lot of free time parallel to To Aru majutsu light novels.

Originally Posted by cubicjack

I just have one question:

Spoiler for vol. 19:

Did Mugino really threaten to burn Takitsubo's......sensitive part?

I mean, my Japanese is not really fluent, so I may have misunderstood that part.

Originally Posted by cubicjack

And yes, if I read that part in vol. 19 correctly, then you read my post correctly. She even called it the "pink XXX" (yes, the author actually put 3 X's there).

...yandere

Originally Posted by cubicjack

I really hope by "major role", he doesn't just mean that Mikoto will confess when everything ends and become Touma's significant other half. Other than that, I really don't know how she's going to get a piece of the fight. Maybe with Accelerator going away, she'll end up taking care of stuff inside Academy City somehow.

Thinking about it, now with Accelerator heading to Russia, there is nobody who can protect the justice in Academy City, maybe Mikoto is going to play a role, there is some Lvl.5s in the city .

Originally Posted by cubicjack

As for the Touma dying in 14 part, I'd say he wasn't even close to dying in that volume. But yeah, in 16, however, he was utterly destroyed by Aqua. Itsuwa just broke down and kept on trying to heal him with her magic, despite the magic being broken because of Touma's hand.

That is going to be sad to see ...what Aqua did? only saw her wasting her efforts??

[Bordix]

Originally Posted by Used Can

Yes, as far as I've read, the scene with Tōma "dying" took place during his fight against Aqua in volume 16.

Sorry, my bad. Your right, the event did happen in vol 16.

[tsunade666]

Originally Posted by Wilfriback

...yandere

Thinking about it, now with Accelerator heading to Russia, there is nobody who can protect the justice in Academy City, maybe Mikoto is going to play a role, there is some Lvl.5s in the city .

That is going to be sad to see ...what Aqua did? only saw her wasting her efforts??

Yap Mugino is what you call YANDERE and yap yandere are dangerous so be careful not to trigger a yandere flag

As for Aqua...... The superman aqua, the man of steel and justice. Well his too screwed up with his Justice that he decide to kill him. The source of misfortune and ended up killing him. And yap its sad pretty one without even reading it yet. I can imagine from it.

And accelerator being gone from the academy city is good news. Him being the only problem kid and psychopath among all. Isn't the academy city a bit safer without him? And No. 2 is dead and the Yandere queen doesn't care much about low class. And about the other Lvl 5. They don't have much screen time yet but from few info their aren't bad at all. And Their is one yet to be revealed lvl 5. I wonder what kind of power he/she had.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

And accelerator being gone from the academy city is good news. Him being the only problem kid and psychopath among all. Isn't the academy city a bit safer without him? And No. 2 is dead and the Yandere queen doesn't care much about low class. And about the other Lvl 5. They don't have much screen time yet but from few info their aren't bad at all. And Their is one yet to be revealed lvl 5. I wonder what kind of power he/she had.

Not really. that mess in Academy City could have been worst between ITEM and SCHOOL doing their things with the other underground organizations.
When Accelerator entered to the scenario, he ended the things in the less long way.
.... I wonder what happened with the other members of GROUP like Tsuchimikado at the end of Vol.19.

[tsunade666]

less long way............ yap its really not a long way because their dead and wouldn't do more damage because they can't do it anymore. Well the only ones left are less harmful and the most dangerous are away. That's good! Wonder what will mikoto do...... Maybe tsuchimikado's going to russia too. His not just a member of group his also from necesarius and a friend of touma and maybe if you could called it.... yeh a friend too of accelerator.... if that psycho can consider other friends besides his loli wife and 2 adult mistress....

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by tsunade666

less long way............ yap its really not a long way because their dead and wouldn't do more damage because they can't do it anymore. Well the only ones left are less harmful and the most dangerous are away. That's good! Wonder what will mikoto do...... Maybe tsuchimikado's going to russia too. His not just a member of group his also from necesarius and a friend of touma and maybe if you could called it.... yeh a friend too of accelerator.... if that psycho can consider other friends besides his loli wife and 2 adult mistress....

Soon or later she is going to learn about experiences near to death and she will need to kill, like Touma when he felt and urge to kill that hijacker. Or maybe not.

[tsunade666]

the hijacker that hijack the plane and kidnap index? But theirs a difference from mikoto and touma. His fist can't really kill or do massive damage that can kill the target. Compare it to railgun. A direct hit will put a hole on your body.

[Miraluka]

Yeah but if you hit a person several times....

[Used Can]

There's something I've been willing to ask for quite some time. I was told that after Tōma got "killed" by Aqua, when Itsuwa went berserk she pulled some really cool moves with her spear. May I ask for a small summary of that scene. And, if it's also possible, about the final scene where the Amakusas work together to beat Aqua?

Also, how many 1-on-1 fights has she had? I know about the little fight she had with Aqua, and the one she had against Beyloupe. Other than those, I've got no idea if she's had any other mano-a-mano.

Originally Posted by tsunade666

the hijacker that hijack the plane and kidnap index? But theirs a difference from mikoto and touma. His fist can't really kill or do massive damage that can kill the target. Compare it to railgun. A direct hit will put a hole on your body.

I think he was referring to the intention. From what I've been told, Tōma was serious about killing the hijacker after Index got harmed.

[Miraluka]

Originally Posted by Used Can

There's something I've been willing to ask for quite some time. I was told that after Tōma got "killed" by Aqua, when Itsuwa went berserk she pulled some really cool moves with her spear. May I ask for a small summary of that scene. And, if it's also possible, about the final scene where the Amakusas work together to beat Aqua?

Also, how many 1-on-1 fights has she had? I know about the little fight she had with Aqua, and the one she had against Beyloupe. Other than those, I've got no idea if she's had any other mano-a-mano.

Seconded, same idea here >w< .... shmaster maybe can help us?? somebody else?? XP

[LastResolve]

In short, Kihara, a normal human, smashed Acclerator with his own bare fist. Mentioned before, Accelerator's reflection works by creating this thin layer around himself that automatically reverse the vectors of any incoming object that can be harmful.

So, Kihara did this: Kihara pulls his fist away as soon as his punch reach the relection shield. The the "pulling away" got reflected into "punch foward" and smacked Accelerator. Accelerator try to counter this by altering the direction of his relection, but Kihara has predicted those changes before hand and always attack from the angle that accelerator can't get away from.

So how is this so ridiculous? First, Accelerator's refelction shield is so very very very thin that covers on his skin and invisible, but Kihara can always predict the right distance on when and where that his hand'll hit the shield and pull it back in the perfect timing. When forcefully reversing the the direction of a punch you already delivered is almost impossible in the first place and would hurt your arm a lot if you can, but Kihara can does that with no sweat under exact precision.... and not just his hand, he can even do it with a weapon. And this is on top of the fact that Kihara can predict Accelerator's every signle change on the reflecting vector to attack fromt he right angle... when Accelerator is the esper with the highest processing speed ever, which in other words mean Kihara is outthinking probably what is the fastest brain on earth while he punched.

This all performed by, I repeat, a normal human is nothing short of ridicuous.

so he lost? thats ridiculous a normal person to match accelarators speed? also did he survive plasma storm as well?

[ykf566]

Well kihara did disrupt wind manipulation, so i doubt he could even create plasma in the first place

[Bordix]

Originally Posted by Used Can

I think he was referring to the intention. From what I've been told, Tōma was serious about killing the hijacker after Index got harmed.

And this is his first time showing his killing intent throughout out his hero career, ami right?

shows Touma really cares deeply for Index. Won't be surprised if they somehow end up together, though I doubt he's gonna be paired up with someone pretty soon. oh wait there's Misaka's development...

[tsunade666]

I'm not on vol 16 yet. I'm just barely finished vol 13. And it looks like the first appearance of aqua is from vol 13 where he rescued vent. And hell his really clark kent. SUPERMAN! Remember the wind generator that the imouto manipulate to disturb the wind flow and disrupt the wind storm of accelerator? That aqua just took one and throw it. And just imagine how big it is. Its a freaking huge post with wind propeller on top.

EDIT: Finished volume 13.

Spoiler:

I feel sorry for accelerator at the end of the book. His cornered to follow the higher ups to save LO. Even joining the group. And I'm kinda confused if its tsuchimikado or not or just some black armored guy is the one who meets accelerator at the end. To inform him of the current status of his standing and LO standing as we speak and invite him to the group with the direct orders ( threat ) of the higher ups.

I will be starting 14 either later or tomorrow with the treat of the Roman Orthodox or is it Rome.
I will finally going to see ITSUWA! BANZAI! VOLUME 14!

[cubicjack]

Originally Posted by Used Can

There's something I've been willing to ask for quite some time. I was told that after Tōma got "killed" by Aqua, when Itsuwa went berserk she pulled some really cool moves with her spear. May I ask for a small summary of that scene. And, if it's also possible, about the final scene where the Amakusas work together to beat Aqua?

Also, how many 1-on-1 fights has she had? I know about the little fight she had with Aqua, and the one she had against Beyloupe. Other than those, I've got no idea if she's had any other mano-a-mano.

Spoiler for vol. 16:

After Itsuwa tried to heal Touma, Aqua attacked Itsuwa. Touma stood up and thanked Itsuwa for her healing. Touma was knocked out for good by Aqua. Aqua told them that he'll come back a day later to fetch Touma's arm, then threw Touma's body a few hundred meters away into a river.

Touma was then sent to the hospital. Itsuwa became emotionally unstable, and the rest of the Amakusa were left feeling down powerless. Tatemiya encouraged and cheered them up, then they prepared for the battle.

The Amakusa encountered Aqua as a group, with Itsuwa as the main attacker. Together, they eventually created a chance to pull off the "Saint Destroyer" move with the spear. However, Aqua successfully guarded against it and it didn't do any damage.

Then came Kanzaki. Of course, she wasn't able to defeat Aqua alone. After some fighting, she realized that she should rely on the Amakusa, instead of always treating them as a target for protecting. Then she called out and asked for their support. Again, as a group, the Amakua with Kanzaki fought Aqua and created a chance to use the "Saint Destroyer". However, Aqua was also preparing an attack which would hit Itsuwa before the "Saint Destroyer" hits. At this point, Touma (who sneaked out of the hospital), came and negated Aqua's magical attack. Kanzaki, as a Saint, was able to restrain Aqua's movements right at the moment, making Aqua unable to guard against the spear attack. Itsuwa then executed the Saint Destroyer and won the battle.