Clannad - Spoilers & Speculation (for experienced Clannad gamers only)

[NightWish]

This thread is for the experienced Clannad viewer (i.e. those of you who are familiar with potentially all the game storyline), its purpose is to allow free discussion of theories and speculation over the Clannad anime series, it therefore will contain unmarked spoilers. If you are a game virgin of Clannad, then do not read this thread unless you want to be spoiled (use the Speculation & Theories for first time viewers thread).

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[Sushi-Y]

I don't care what they do, as long as they keep these lines from Sunohara:

Spoiler:

- キミに惚れました。僕と夜明けのモーニングコーヒー飲んでくださいっ
- くぅぅ、僕も注入されてぇーーっ！
- 智代、おまえのおっぱい貸してくれ！
- 僕、相楽ミサイルですって挨拶して回ってたんだ
- 岡崎アパッチ！それに智代最終兵器！
- あの．．．僕、味方なんですけど．．．
- あ、美佐枝さん、服、着たままなの？おっぱい出して、楽にしてよ
- そう．．．最強の女が縫い直した服．．．それは最強の服．．．最強に着心地がいいぜぇ．．．
- そう．．．最強の女が作った弁当．．．それは最強の弁当．．．最強にうまいはずだぜぇ．．．
- それと便座カバー

Add your own Sunohara lines. ^^;

[velocity7]

Heh...

Spoiler:

I'm just damn worried about Tomoyo and Kyou's routes...

[iamandragon]

From the OP, we're going to see the after story section, so it's a no-no for Tomoyo and Kyou route, unfortunately...

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y

I don't care what they do, as long as they keep these lines from Sunohara:

Spoiler:

- キミに惚れました。僕と夜明けのモーニングコーヒー飲んでくださいっ
- くぅぅ、僕も注入されてぇーーっ！
- 智代、おまえのおっぱい貸してくれ！
- 僕、相楽ミサイルですって挨拶して回ってたんだ
- 岡崎アパッチ！それに智代最終兵器！
- あの．．．僕、味方なんですけど．．．
- あ、美佐枝さん、服、着たままなの？おっぱい出して、楽にしてよ
- そう．．．最強の女が縫い直した服．．．それは最強の服．．．最強に着心地がいいぜぇ．．．
- そう．．．最強の女が作った弁当．．．それは最強の弁当．．．最強にうまいはずだぜぇ．．．
- それと便座カバー

Add your own Sunohara lines. ^^;

Since they all appeared in the Nagisa route, they will come up. (no one beats Sunohara in terms of funniness)

[luckyovermind]

Who knows, maybe kyoani will do another series on tomoyo after and put the tomoyo senario material there?

But we are still going to see a lot of fun things in this series from tomoyo though, Tomoyo + Sunohara = win

[Haru~]

i wonder how will they handle all arcs especially the after arcs??? I mean 24 episodes for over 7 arcs??
But i hope they won't rush it because the 1st episode in my opinion is a bit fast-paced??

[Level E]

I personally hope they put in Yukine's storyline and Mai's 妹萌え殺し also the Laser Tag (hoping for the baseball episode is probably too wishful, although I do like how Tomoya beats Kyo and Tomoyo ^o^ ).

Originally Posted by Sushi-Y

Add your own Sunohara lines. ^^;

Yea, that Sunohara was something. ^^;;;;;

Spoiler for some more:

・・・足元を見ると和英辞典が転がっていた。ついでに鼻血を出している春原も転がっている。・・・『ついで 』ってなんだよっ！・・・人の心を読むなよ

「斬る」「魔法」「盗む」
・・・って、なんで、仲間に入れる選択肢がないんすかっ！

Then there's all the omajinai with Yukine, and the 64hit combo ^^;

Spoiler for Other Character quotes / Kotomi Arc:

Judging KyoAni's past, they'll have them all:

Ryo
・・・一ノ瀬さん・・・明日は友達ができません。 ・・・俺の努力を真っ向から全否定するような予言をつきつけるなああっ!!

Kyo
・・・ツッコミだけの世界より恐ろしい世界・・・オチのない世界。 (vs ボケ専少女隊)

Kotomi

Spoiler for tear guard:

おとといは兎を見たの。きのうは鹿、今日はあなた・・・
読まないでほしいの。ただ、持っててくれるだけで、いいの
お父さん、お母さん・・・おかえりなさいっ　｡ﾟ(ﾟ´Д｀ﾟ)ﾟ｡

That aside, I wonder who will be the 3rd member for the 3-on-3?
I'm personally hoping for Kyo.

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by Level E

That aside, I wonder who will be the 3rd member for the 3-on-3?
I'm personally hoping for Kyo.

Definitely Kyou. Look at the OP, she's even changed into he PE suit. (though remaining in school uniform will actually add more shock.

[velocity7]

Spoiler:

With School Foundation Day so close by now, there is no way Nagisa will get a chance to perform her drama; at least, not in this universe. My bets are damn high that this is likely to cause a time reset in the next couple of episodes...

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by velocity7

Spoiler:

With School Foundation Day so close by now, there is no way Nagisa will get a chance to perform her drama; at least, not in this universe. My bets are damn high that this is likely to cause a time reset in the next couple of episodes...

That's like, the biggest spoiler if they do that even before half way of the show. I'm sure KA will find another way around for Nagisa's drama club...

[Dusk]

Anyone noticed that in episode 2 they set the date for the open house to be after the founder's day celebration? Specifically, the 15th of may. On the other hand, in the game it was before the founder's day, 1st of may I think. What i want to point out is originally on that day a few important things actually happened.

1) Nagisa's performance
2) Tomoyo's 64 hit combo
3) Misae fulfilling the promise with the cat
4) Fuko meeting her sister

Since they are at Fuko's arc right now, that means aside from number 4, the other 3 might be a miss. Heck, Tomoyo already went over 64 hits now. And Nagisa can't continue with establishing her drama club if Fuko's arc isn't over. On the other hand, the 2 choir gals have already started their club with the teacher.

[krln99]

Judging by the OP, do you think KyoAni will pull a "Lucky Star" and

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use the OP (or part of it) as the series ending? I think they will. I think the series will end with the girl running in the field of flowers. I had a feeling in L*S that the OP wasn't just a "fan service" intro as many panned it initially and that it had some significance in the entire series. Seeing how the girl running in the field is pretty significant in the game I'm almost certain this is the last scene in the series.

[Zilch]

Well...We have seen Tomoya's teacher in the episode 5.Now,I really want to know when Ryou's boyfriend will appear.

[eMpTy265]

Originally Posted by Zilch

Well...We have seen Tomoya's teacher in the episode 5.Now,I really want to know when Ryou's boyfriend will appear.

Personally, I'd rather have him never appear in the anime. There's no need to have him in the anime, seeing how there's already too much game material to cover in 24 eps...

(unless Kyoani decides to pull that story element that the game didn't include... )

Spoiler for Kappei's original fate:

i.e. have him killed after befriending Tomoya and getting together with Ryou

But then it's likely that Ryou will rebound to Tomoya... disturbing the TomoyaXNagisa dynamic...

Come to think of it.... it's pretty likely that Kyoani will go through with Kyou's route in the story, but how will they bring it around so that we'll head to Nagisa's after route??

[velocity7]

To be honest, I don't see Kyou's route working with Nagisa's at all whatsoever. At least, as it is from the game.

Same for Tomoyo's, too, particularly because...

Spoiler:

Note that in the OP, Tomoyo looks up at the sakura trees, which is a major indicator for her route. As of episode 6, 14:10, the sakura trees have already stopped shedding their petals. If this is indicative of anything, I sense a time warp coming soon...

[Kinny Riddle]

I just realized Kyo-Ani has slightly modified Ryou's nurse uniform seen in Kappei's ending into the maid costume we now see.

Originally Posted by velocity7

To be honest, I don't see Kyou's route working with Nagisa's at all whatsoever. At least, as it is from the game.

Same for Tomoyo's, too, particularly because...

Spoiler:

Note that in the OP, Tomoyo looks up at the sakura trees, which is a major indicator for her route. As of episode 6, 14:10, the sakura trees have already stopped shedding their petals. If this is indicative of anything, I sense a time warp coming soon...

Spoiler for Reply to spoiler tag:

The dialogue in episode 6 seems to explicitly mention another separate "School Festival" from the usual "Founder's Day", so that they don't have to cram everyone's crucial scenes in that crucial day. So it seems they're going for the single timeline.

Besides, having Tomoyo stare at the cherry blossom trees without the petals wouldn't be that much of a problem. Maybe they can modify the conversation to have Tomoyo say "A month ago, the trees here were still blossoming. How I wish it could be like this next year..." And problem solved.

[dgreater1]

Originally Posted by Kinny Riddle

I just realized Kyo-Ani has slightly modified Ryou's nurse uniform seen in Kappei's ending into the maid costume we now see.

Spoiler for Reply to spoiler tag:

The dialogue in episode 6 seems to explicitly mention another separate "School Festival" from the usual "Founder's Day", so that they don't have to cram everyone's crucial scenes in that crucial day. So it seems they're going for the single timeline.

Besides, having Tomoyo stare at the cherry blossom trees without the petals wouldn't be that much of a problem. Maybe they can modify the conversation to have Tomoyo say "A month ago, the trees here were still blossoming. How I wish it could be like this next year..." And problem solved.

Spoiler for Spoil! Spoil! Spoil!:

Not entirely sure with that though, they are celebrating Foundation Day on eps. 6, Golden Week has passed away as well, what kind of a festival do you think would happen that will let Nagisa stand on the stage? More than that, if I remember correctly, the voting for Student Council presidency happened before Foundation Day which is supposed to be Tomoyo's route, well they could move the voting date but I'm not really sure of that as well. Perhaps we'll get an alternate story telling?

[Kinny Riddle]

Originally Posted by dgreater1

Spoiler for Spoil! Spoil! Spoil!:

Not entirely sure with that though, they are celebrating Foundation Day on eps. 6, Golden Week has passed away as well, what kind of a festival do you think would happen that will let Nagisa stand on the stage? More than that, if I remember correctly, the voting for Student Council presidency happened before Foundation Day which is supposed to be Tomoyo's route, well they could move the voting date but I'm not really sure of that as well. Perhaps we'll get an alternate story telling?

Spoiler for Reply:

That's what I mean. Instead of putting everyone's crucial scene in Founders Day, Kyo Ani decides to "screw that, we'll make our own timeline".

Just look at Kanon. Mai's birthday is January 29th, Shiori's is on February 2nd, just 4 days apart. Yet in Kanon 2006, it took longer than that for Yuuichi to go from celebrating Mai's birthday before coming to Shiori's birthday.

[BOZZY]

I am surprised no mentioned this... but here I go...

Spoiler:

Doesn't the OP give away a huge spoiler as to who Tomoyo will end up with? I mean watching the series, it seems obvious he will hook up with Nagisa, but isn't the little girl that is running in the fields in the OP, Nagisa and Tomoya's daughter Ushio?

[iamandragon]

Originally Posted by BOZZY

I am surprised no mentioned this... but here I go...

Spoiler:

Doesn't the OP give away a huge spoiler as to who Tomoyo will end up with? I mean watching the series, it seems obvious he will hook up with Nagisa, but isn't the little girl that is running in the fields in the OP, Nagisa and Tomoya's daughter Ushio?

Probably not. I havn't played the game and I don't notice anything in the OP.