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Old 2013-09-25, 23:19   Link #2181
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So, I just finished reading the Epilogue and.... Damn. It was every bit, and even a bit more then, epic as Flere said it was.

Now to drop off a quote that I thought would provoke a few thoughts.



It seems that Othinus is a bit touchy about being called lonely?

Well, she might have to wait 'till that illusion gets broken by Touma.
Fiamma also was described as a lonely and isolated person.
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Old 2013-09-25, 23:23   Link #2182
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well damn that was intense
that was some despair inducing stuff for Kamijou-san
when Ollerus used the spell, i was worried that the spoiler about Fiamma was fake, thankfully it wasn't
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Old 2013-09-25, 23:33   Link #2183
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I was worried about the whole "everything that happened was for naught" concept being used here but the execution was actually pretty good.

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Now, what will happen to the world that was ended without hesitation?
-Kamachi Kazuma
Time for speculation.

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“That’s why that Imagine Breaker was so irritating! In a way, it did hold the possibility of driving me to 100% failure, but its role as a reference point and repair point for the world meant it clashed with my desire to change the world. With that method of achieving 100% failure off the table, I had no choice but to invite 100% success with the lance. I never thought you would bring such an interesting alternative approach!!”
I would say that this is the most important part of the Epilogue. It has been confirmed that her desire is to change the world. Most likely, the destruction is not literal. I think we can interpret it as the destruction of a structure/set of laws or the destruction of the former undesirable state and the recreation of a more desirable state.
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Old 2013-09-25, 23:39   Link #2184
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Poor Touma. True suffering right there. But Othinus layed down the law pretty hard.

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Now, what will happen to the world that was ended without hesitation?
Kamachi, you tease.
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Old 2013-09-25, 23:39   Link #2185
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Fiamma also was described as a lonely and isolated person.
Please do not crush my hopes of Othinus being inducted into Touma's harem, Wilfriback-dono.
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Old 2013-09-25, 23:46   Link #2186
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Finishin' the NT08 ... I just wanna read NT09 ASAP!!

what's the point of bringin' girls there Mr.Kamijou when you awestruck with Hothinus' appearance. LOL??? (Kiddin')

My last post for now, I'll join the conversation again when NT09 release (or if Railgun could give me some excitements)
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Old 2013-09-25, 23:49   Link #2187
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I would say that this is the most important part of the Epilogue. It has been confirmed that her desire is to change the world. Most likely, the destruction is not literal. I think we can interpret it as the destruction of a structure/set of laws or the destruction of the former undesirable state and the recreation of a more desirable state.
The fake spoilers weren't so fake to an extent, in that sense. And yeah, it will probably be a major restructuring. Question would specifically be, what defines something as more desirable.
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Old 2013-09-25, 23:54   Link #2188
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The fake spoilers weren't so fake to an extent, in that sense. And yeah, it will probably be a major restructuring. Question would specifically be, what defines something as more desirable.
That is what will define the Magic God...or the one who is beyond a mere Magic God as a character. The greatest enigma behind her is her motivations.

I really loved how casually she just ended everything.
Quote:
“These small fights are such a pain. I think I’ll just end the world.”

And exactly as she had announced, everything was immediately destroyed.
Poor Hanakine=Kakinekko ended up becoming Othinus's bitch for nothing.
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Old 2013-09-25, 23:56   Link #2189
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Indeed it will. I'm going to go insane for the next 4 months. Not even possible Index III will ease my mind because of what I know.

Yeah, was great. Kamachi did a really good job with her -exterior- personality. Great way to end it.
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Old 2013-09-25, 23:57   Link #2190
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Well...... shit...I mean... ....damn....
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Old 2013-09-26, 00:05   Link #2191
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That was absolutely amazing. I loved it.

So... I had a random crack theory... Othinus = Aleister's wife from before. Aleister's illusions were broken because of what Magic did to his wife when she became a magic god and he tried to make her one through Aiwass and now Aleister won't do anything to stop her for that reason?... Crack theory, but made it for fun. It would be cool.

Recently, since the epilogue I really like Othinus as a character. She really has been done well. Kamachi has really started doing better recently. I'm surprised it's still possible

I would like to say that I got this implausible idea only because Aleister Crowley used his wife as a medium to communicate with Aiwass before and considering that Aleister survived... it wouldn't be that hard to believe... The fact that she is missing her eye seems to be a big deal after all...

Note: I do not think the above is true. I'm just saying it would be interesting if it were...
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Old 2013-09-26, 00:05   Link #2192
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Yeah, was great. Kamachi did a really good job with her -exterior- personality. Great way to end it.
Exactly. All that's left is for Kamachi to develop her past and motivations as well as the true face of what her plans are.

The next 4+ months are going to be arduous. Maybe Kamachi will do 4 volumes this year to offset the fact that he only published two in 2012. Please, Kamachi.

Also, someone has to color that last illustration with Othinus and Touma as well as the illustration with Maria and Kagun.
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Old 2013-09-26, 00:09   Link #2193
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Exactly. All that's left is for Kamachi to develop her past and motivations as well as the true face of what her plans are.

The next 4+ months are going to be arduous. Maybe Kamachi will do 4 volumes this year to offset the fact that he only published two in 2012. Please, Kamachi.

Also, someone has to color that last illustration with Othinus and Touma as well as the illustration with Maria and Kagun.
Yeah, basically the interior. What makes her break? What will Touma do to see this... We've only seen extremely vague hints of it.

Yes pls. I will bow down if release is December.

Maria & Kagun with warm colors pls
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Old 2013-09-26, 00:10   Link #2194
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Othinus is so evil... I like her personality a lot...
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Old 2013-09-26, 00:12   Link #2195
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I doubt we'll get NT9 in December because Heavy Object vol7 is in November. Though here's hoping.
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Old 2013-09-26, 00:25   Link #2196
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Holy crap. That ending. That was just beyond cool.

That epilogue + the Misaki scene + Mikoto and Index fightin with Touma makes this my favorite NT easily. Only slightly eclipsed by volume 22.

The only question is... Now what?
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Old 2013-09-26, 00:31   Link #2197
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Maria & Kagun with warm colors pls
Yep. What made NT8 amazing was definitely Chapter 4 and the Epilogue.

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I doubt we'll get NT9 in December because Heavy Object vol7 is in November. Though here's hoping.
Don't break my illusions, man.

When we think about it, it wasn't just GREMLIN's actions that was a decoy. GREMLIN, itself, was the lone decoy in and of itself.
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Old 2013-09-26, 00:35   Link #2198
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I take back my words asking people if Othinus should join Touma's harem... She is a psycho D:...

WORLD HAS ENDED AND EVERYONE DIED NOOOOOOOOOOOOO DX
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Old 2013-09-26, 00:43   Link #2199
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I take back my words asking people if Othinus should join Touma's harem... She is a psycho D:...

WORLD HAS ENDED AND EVERYONE DIED NOOOOOOOOOOOOO DX
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Old 2013-09-26, 00:48   Link #2200
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That was quick @__@
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