Valvrave the Liberator 2 - Episode 11 Discussion / Poll

[Key Board]

I noticed the Saki's hair ornament magically re-appeared again xd

are we sure she didn't make it out of hardlight?

[KleenexGhost]

Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

Honesty I can't see Cain debuted in Dainsleif just so Haruto can kicked his ass. That way too anti-climax for the suppose finale.

It's like at the Royal Rumble when someone badass comes in at number 30 and immediately gets their ass tossed over the ropes.

He's gonna come in to do the job so Haruto can look like a badass and possibly go out doing something awesome.

[Cloudedmind]

Originally Posted by KleenexGhost

Valvrave: That feeling you get when someone invites you to go out and you think you're totally getting Olive Garden then you realize that you're only getting Mickey D's.

Yep, it looks like it's that kind of Valvrave.

Personally, I'm not really disappointed, it's still been a fun ride.

[KleenexGhost]

Originally Posted by Cloudedmind

Yep, it looks like it's that kind of Valvrave.

Personally, I'm not really disappointed, it's still been a fun ride.

I'm not really disappointed either. And it has been fun. A roller coaster even. Now granted that roller coaster had parts of the track that needed work but it was still fun.

Valvrave: It was fun while it lasted

[mayumi]

Maybe L-Elf & A-Drei and Saki, Akira, Saotomi all join Forces and form the new Kamitsuki/human Nation. While Shoko forms the cow empire or something with just humans. Maybe Haruto who has lost all his memories is with Shoko and crew?
Or the little kid is genetically formed with Haruto's and L-Elf's dna

[Faerie]

Originally Posted by mayumi

Shoko forms the cow empire

fitting

[~BC~]

Originally Posted by KleenexGhost

I'm not really disappointed either. And it has been fun. A roller coaster even. Now granted that roller coaster had parts of the track that needed work but it was still fun.

Valvrave: It was fun while it lasted

This roller coaster has been peetering off for me. So I would be disappointed if things just ended next episode. I don't have faith this can close off satisfiyingly. I'm kind of surprised more people aren't annoyed by the jacked person can regenerate reveal.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by ~BC~

This roller coaster has been peetering off for me. So I would be disappointed if things just ended next episode. I don't have faith this can close off satisfiyingly. I'm kind of surprised more people aren't annoyed by the jacked person can regenerate reveal.

For Magius. It was never stated they couldn't, they permanently take over and rewrite the body. L-Elf was still wounded after Haruto jacked him in episode 2.

[KleenexGhost]

Originally Posted by ~BC~

This roller coaster has been peetering off for me. So I would be disappointed if things just ended next episode. I don't have faith this can close off satisfiyingly. I'm kind of surprised more people aren't annoyed by the jacked person can regenerate reveal.

Oh don't worry. I'm still in optimist mode myself lol. Personally I found a lot of the flaws of Valvrave more obvious this season. Like you, I'm not expecting things to end satisfyingly. I'm pretty sure there may be a point where I rage. But I'm holding it in, until it's all said and done.

I definitely get the feeling the writers expected this to go on longer but due to sales and overall reception Sunrise decided to retire the Rave-train.

[finalfury]

I want Beast Haruto to come back. ;_;

[Cloudedmind]

Originally Posted by Thess

For Magius. It was never stated they couldn't, they permanently take over and rewrite the body. L-Elf was still wounded after Haruto jacked him in episode 2.

I think some people assumed based on Cain's statement after seeing Haruto heal, and calling him a third generation, it meant that the previous generations couldn't heal like Haruto and co. But based on what we've been shown now and going back to that statement it's likely he was just recognizing Haruto as a Magius like himself.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by Cloudedmind

I think some people assumed based on Cain's statement after seeing Haruto heal, and calling him a third generation, it meant that the previous generations couldn't heal like Haruto and co. But based on what we've been shown now and going back to that statement it's likely he was just recognizing Haruto as a Magius like himself.

I thought so too, but looking back I agree with you, he probably didn't know he was part Magius and realized it after he could heal. Just different from him because he didn't recognize him as a glittering green fog buddy.

[Wandering Soul]

It just now occurred to me that somehow the council of 101 never once planned for what would happen if some terrorist or deranged person tried to assassinate one of them in public. Even before the pilots showed up you would think they would realize that political figures are sometimes targets for assassination.

[finalfury]

Originally Posted by the one above all

It just now occurred to me that somehow the council of 101 never once planned for what would happen if some terrorist or deranged person tried to assassinate one of them in public. Even before the pilots showed up you would think they would realize that political figures are sometimes targets for assassination.

-inserts obligatory statement that Thess would say "The council is pretty dumb without Cain."-

[DevilHighDxD]

Originally Posted by the one above all

It just now occurred to me that somehow the council of 101 never once planned for what would happen if some terrorist or deranged person tried to assassinate one of them in public. Even before the pilots showed up you would think they would realize that political figures are sometimes targets for assassination.

That why without Cain, they are also a giant without a brain.

[~BC~]

Originally Posted by Thess

For Magius. It was never stated they couldn't, they permanently take over and rewrite the body. L-Elf was still wounded after Haruto jacked him in episode 2.

But that's the asspull for me. It makes what the Magius did in episode 20 seem even more stupid. Not to mention if the Kamitsuki can't do that then how would they know the Magius could? I mean maybe I missed something.

Originally Posted by the one above all

It just now occurred to me that somehow the council of 101 never once planned for what would happen if some terrorist or deranged person tried to assassinate one of them in public. Even before the pilots showed up you would think they would realize that political figures are sometimes targets for assassination.

Chalk that up to asspull number two. These are ancient beings; they've less of an excuse for being this stupid than a bunch of teenagers.

[KleenexGhost]

Originally Posted by the one above all

It just now occurred to me that somehow the council of 101 never once planned for what would happen if some terrorist or deranged person tried to assassinate one of them in public. Even before the pilots showed up you would think they would realize that political figures are sometimes targets for assassination.

I guess Cain also qualifies for the "Everyone is stupid, except for me" meme

[finalfury]

Originally Posted by KleenexGhost

I guess Cain also qualifies for the "Everyone is stupid, except for me" meme

He didn't dismantle or break apart Carmilla. He's stupid too.

[~BC~]

Everyone is stupid when it's time for the other side to win.

[Thess]

Originally Posted by ~BC~

But that's the asspull for me. It makes what the Magius did in episode 20 seem even more stupid. Not to mention if the Kamitsuki can't do that then how would they know the Magius could? I mean maybe I missed something.

The Magius aren't smart aside of Cain who was expecting L-Elf to interfere somewhat and his emo phase derailed his plan for certain. He planned this taking into account L-Elf as factor of his plan. So L-Elf unwillingly outsmarted him by not doing anything.