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Key Board · 2013-12-20, 17:54

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Originally Posted by Thess

You should be questioning if he's not getting killed in the crossfire next episode.

L-Elf could easily blackmail him

DevilHighDxD · 2013-12-20, 17:58

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Originally Posted by Key Board

L-Elf could easily blackmail him

Same with the Council, either way he's fucked.

Cloudedmind · 2013-12-20, 18:00

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

That's presuming he gets away alive. L-Elf is now in position to kill the ARUS President if he wants to.

But yeah, the big question is the ARUS side. It's a pretty safe bet that Dorssia is in for a major revolution now.

If the ARUS President stays alive, his new found peace with Dorssia just got shot to hell. There's no way his people will take him siding with someone who's also now been shown to be a "monster" as well. Especially with how quickly he jumped on the monster train against Neo Jior. Anyone with half a brain will expect him to do the same with Dorssia least he be seen as working a long with them. So basically we're back to square one. Every nation for them self (At least outwardly). With one nation in particular about to have a huge uprising.

Triple_R · 2013-12-20, 18:05

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Originally Posted by Cloudedmind

If the ARUS President stays alive, his new found peace with Dorssia just got shot to hell. There's no way his people will take him siding with someone who's also now been shown to be a "monster" as well. Especially with how quickly he jumped on the monster train against Neo Jior. Anyone with half a brain will expect him to do the same with Dorssia least he be seen as working a long with them. So basically we're back to square one. Every nation for them self (At least outwardly). With one nation in particular about to have a huge uprising.

Yeah, this obviously ends an open ARUS/Dorssia partnership. It's based entirely on fighting the exact sort of "monster" that the Dorssian Fuhrer himself has now been revealed to be.

Cloudedmind · 2013-12-20, 18:15

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

Yeah, this obviously ends an open ARUS/Dorssia partnership. It's based entirely on fighting the exact sort of "monster" that the Dorssian Fuhrer himself has now been revealed to be.

As messy and chaotic as they are witch hunts are certainly good for distractions, and getting rid of your enemies. Two birds, one stone. The problem is that it's far to easy for someone to point fingers back at you, especially when you yourself are in fact a witch.

Perhaps, the Magius should have studied up on previous witch hunts.

With everyone now looking in house it'll be harder for Dorssia and ARUS to rally against the students. They obviously aren't in the clear, but they've possible given themselves a little breathing room.

Thess · 2013-12-20, 18:23

Are there the only leaders in that conference? Because if the world leaders that gathered for the former summit are there, you have a number of political hostages in your power.

NeutralZero · 2013-12-20, 18:24

what happen to the Dorsian leader's pretty ironic...
now that's karma for you...
she impaled Saki in live tv to show the existence of the kamitsuki and he got himself slashed at the throat and revealed the existence of the magius...
if they pushed it even further assuming, they could use the video conversation of Liselotte and Haruto...
that aside,
in the 200 years future the enemy that Saki killed mentioned about being against them for what? hundred years?
are they the remnant of the magius?
considering what they want is to hide themselves and what they want is to reveal and coexist...

mayumi · 2013-12-20, 18:24

Does anyone this Kreimheld will provide Saki's Valvrave with some Drossian technology improvement? What if the golden addition we see in the future is because of some thing that happens next episode?

NeutralZero · 2013-12-20, 18:32

the gold thingy's probably a substitute for them to remain functioning...
assuming that unit 1's gone
or simply an upgrade.

DevilHighDxD · 2013-12-20, 18:53

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Originally Posted by NeutralZero

the gold thingy's probably a substitute for them to remain functioning...
assuming that unit 1's gone
or simply an upgrade.

If unit 1 is destroyed then all Valvrave will cease functioning unless it provided with a Magius AI and a original engine. So I say a upgrade for chatting runes spell.

Thess · 2013-12-20, 18:58

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Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

If unit 1 is destroyed then all Valvrave will cease functioning unless it provided with a Magius AI and a original engine. So I say a upgrade for chatting runes spell.

Or a new engine with new "AI" (actually not quite AI, Pino is just trapped there). Which character claimed he was going to end the curse again?

NeutralZero · 2013-12-20, 19:08

It's Haruto...
He mentioned before that the Valvrave ends with him and that he's gonna destroy it...

kivredia · 2013-12-20, 19:11

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Originally Posted by Thess

Or a new engine with new "AI" (actually not quite AI, Pino is just trapped there). Which character claimed he was going to end the curse again?

Well, that theory has been floating around for a while now. The question is who would pilot Hito then?

Key Board · 2013-12-20, 19:22

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Originally Posted by Thess

Or a new engine with new "AI" (actually not quite AI, Pino is just trapped there). Which character claimed he was going to end the curse again?

Pino will be free/die/released? and Haruto will probably become one with the new Rave Engine or something.

Speaking of which, the official site released information on the final boss
The thing has 4 mirror raves for each limb, all of which leech from Prue

So I'm going to guessing that the science doesn't change that much and Unit 4 in the future is still leeching from somewhere

Thess · 2013-12-20, 19:32

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Originally Posted by kivredia

Well, that theory has been floating around for a while now. The question is who would pilot Hito then?

Satomi's black uniform has yellow...and red. If they are going to be golden, yellow and red would be Hito's colors. He already has a flag for future Hito pilot thanks to L-Elf. Just a thought:

DevilHighDxD · 2013-12-20, 19:40

If that prince in the future is related to L-elf as his descendent and if Haruto does survived long enough that he can make a baby before he died, L-elf has a child so Haruto should also. I'll say it Haruto's descendent piloting the Hito, bearing his "curse".

Or L-elf will have two child, one as human ruler and the other modified to be a human compatible with Valvrave to become a kamitsuki. Each of L-elf's child will have their descendent doing their job.

zerriet · 2013-12-20, 19:52

Ok, I would like to apologize in advance for trying too hard to convince people to not further hate on shoko since they have justifiable assumptions. However, I want to ask you guys........is it possible for her to be redeemed in a proper fashion next episode similar to Rossiu from TTGL?

Thess · 2013-12-20, 19:54

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Originally Posted by DevilHighDxD

If that prince in the future is related to L-elf as his descendent and if Haruto does survived long enough that he can make a baby before he died, L-elf has a child so Haruto should also. I'll say it Haruto's descendent piloting the Hito, bearing his "curse".

Or L-elf will have two child, one as human ruler and the other modified to be a human compatible with Valvrave to become a kamitsuki. Each of L-elf's child will have their descendent doing their job.

Unless Haruto becomes a the engine new "Pino" and somehow (by ultimate kamitsuki plot asspull the curse becomes a blessing).

Honestly, the kid's eyes are not even Haruto's shade of blue (they are lighter), so we don't know if he has genes like that.

Key Board · 2013-12-20, 19:54

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Originally Posted by zerriet

Ok, I would like to apologize in advance for trying too hard to convince people to not further hate on shoko since they have justifiable assumptions. However, I want to ask you guys........is it possible for her to be redeemed in a proper fashion next episode similar to Rossiu from TTGL?

Rossiu tried to be a martyr to pay for his sins

I don't see Shoko doing anything similar, unless she rams her shuttle into Cain
but she won't because there are other people on that Shuttle

zerriet · 2013-12-20, 19:59

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Originally Posted by Key Board

Rossiu tried to be a martyr to pay for his sins

I don't see Shoko doing anything similar, unless she rams her shuttle into Cain
but she won't because there are other people on that Shuttle

Then again, this is valvrave, ANYTHING can happen

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NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	what happen to the Dorsian leader's pretty ironic... now that's karma for you... she impaled Saki in live tv to show the existence of the kamitsuki and he got himself slashed at the throat and revealed the existence of the magius... if they pushed it even further assuming, they could use the video conversation of Liselotte and Haruto... that aside, in the 200 years future the enemy that Saki killed mentioned about being against them for what? hundred years? are they the remnant of the magius? considering what they want is to hide themselves and what they want is to reveal and coexist...

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mayumi Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2004	Does anyone this Kreimheld will provide Saki's Valvrave with some Drossian technology improvement? What if the golden addition we see in the future is because of some thing that happens next episode?

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NeutralZero Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Earth	the gold thingy's probably a substitute for them to remain functioning... assuming that unit 1's gone or simply an upgrade.

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zerriet Member Join Date: Dec 2013	Ok, I would like to apologize in advance for trying too hard to convince people to not further hate on shoko since they have justifiable assumptions. However, I want to ask you guys........is it possible for her to be redeemed in a proper fashion next episode similar to Rossiu from TTGL?