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Old 2017-02-26, 08:31   Link #19821
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The fleet is strong enough to get to the boss and survive day battle, it's just yasen the trouble since both himes survive to eat the girls TCI.
This is on normal difficulty, right?
I concur with Klashikari. In addition to what he said
1. All your LBA should focus on the boss. The first LBA should have FP above 71.
2. With the appropriate LBA, you should be able to equip CVLs with at least 2 bombers.
3. Replace Maya's boiler with something more useful.

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Fleet used was: Iowa Bismarck Roma Italia Chitose Chiyoda + Abukuma Maya Ayanami Yukikaze Ooi Kitakami. 10/10 stoppage at the first two nodes. In two instances I got full sparkle too. Still got shot to hell by the Wo Kais on the way.
Equipment you use please. In the mean time, equip as many 10cm+AAFD, air radar and machine guns as reasonable.
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Old 2017-02-26, 09:59   Link #19822
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Equipment you use please. In the mean time, equip as many 10cm+AAFD, air radar and machine guns as reasonable.
Standard equips, no +6 weapons. CVLs are full Fighter Mules, always get AS on nodes (500+ FP regularly). Maya is in AACI duty. Doesn't help in the least.

Limited Goddesses, or Damecon.

So far I've only gotten to the twins once, and only after I threw Yukikaze into the pyre (just kidding, she had a Goddess).
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Old 2017-02-26, 10:02   Link #19823
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Standard equipment doesn't help to figure out what kind of setup you have. Some people still use 25mm concentrated AA gun instead of Bofors, or even use some weird AA combination.

You gotta be more accurate than that.
That being said, the utter absence of modding definitely doesn't help either.
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Old 2017-02-26, 10:21   Link #19824
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It never happened to me, and that's counting my grinding runs and test runs. So either you did something extremely wrong or you are merely counting extremely bad luck runs as "conclusion" which is arguably not enough for that.
My experiences where pretty much what MyssaRei described with it (notably without equipping a single bomber on my CVL, as it wouldn't have made the required FP to get AS anymore);
Sadly I didn't try the CTF on hard myself it. This is also why I stressed it was on medium and others may have varying experiences. (except the latter part got accidentially deleted with the faulty replayer code) - Strigon's ship levels gave me the idea he does it on med though. - That was still on Hard though, on medium it got through most times.


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Again, it's not that simple with Tsu-elite. I had multiple runs where the one of the two LBA runs got completely annihilated. And just about every time I had anything between 1-3 squadrons that got reduced to 0-3 bombers after the run. I was counting on the LBAs reducing the trash somewhat, anything on top of that was a bonus.
I know it might not appear that way but I do remember the tsus as being extremely annoying. - i don't even deny that CVs are vulnerable to them. (Think they were even often the reason I didn't beat a boss); As for my fleet I think it was something like.

Chitsose, , Iowa(16inch +5, 16inch, T1AP, Recon), Italia(Recon,AP, ItalianK x 2), Roma(Same as italia), Haruna(2x Haruna guns * 7, Recon, AP Shell), Shouhou
CVLs were both carrying only FTWs, Iwamoto (12AA) and the 11 AA planes, + Reppus in the rest

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ABKM(2x OTOH,Midget) , Maya(2x 5inch, AAR, Night scout, BOFOR ) , Yuudachi(2x 10CM HA + AACi, some AA gun), Yukikaze(Torp, Torp, Lookout, AA gun) , Bisko3 (her fit outfit, T1AP, Recon) , KTKM(Midget,OTOH,OTOH+3/Midget, Torp, Torp)

Not too sure about KTKM and abukuma though, as I sometimes replace Yellow guns for 20.3#3

I tried exchanging the CVLs for Hiyou and Junyou too, and while that gave far better results it off-routed my fleet and made me go circles in the north, if I remember that right.
I then tried to just make them fast ships, but that gave the same or slightly less AA than if I went with Shouhou and Chitose.

During my medium runs I later replaced one FBB with Maya and added Purin to the escort fleet for Night Battle damage.
And while the fleet at least got through to the boss, the end results I got where not as good as with the CTF;

I was close to sink her with the STF once while the same was the case for the CTF several times. I might have judged that differently though if I had tried ASW equipment to begin with.
Which is actually rather funny because I originally thought ' K, how am I supposed to kill her with ASW equipment? ' then saw she actually counts as a BBV and went with all normal equip lol.
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Old 2017-02-26, 10:38   Link #19825
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Shouhou? You seriously wondered why you couldn't hold your ground in 甲 by bringing a very average CVL?

And of course Kidou would have better results in 乙 compared to Suijou, simply because the tsu class is no longer a threat in that difficulty. Could you please stop using your 乙 runs as if they were relevant? It becomes a pointless drivel with the context at hand.
The reason is simple: Kidou becomes easier in 乙 -if- you are equipped properly as if you were able to tackle 甲. However, someone like Strigon does not have the proper equipment as far as I can tell, meaning that Kidou advantage is hardly visible.
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Old 2017-02-26, 15:25   Link #19826
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Thanks for your advices, did some tweaks to the composition and went onto challenge the boss again just a few minutes ago.

Spoiler for Luck:


RNGesus has finally smiled upon my unlucky self.

Now only last dance remains.
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Old 2017-02-26, 15:49   Link #19827
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Wait how did you get Junyou there?
Last time I tried it she off routed me into a circle towards north

Now that I see it same for all other slow ships oO
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Old 2017-02-26, 16:43   Link #19828
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Wait how did you get Junyou there?
Last time I tried it she off routed me into a circle towards north

Now that I see it same for all other slow ships oO
Speed only matters on 甲 for L-->M.

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Chitsose, , Iowa(16inch +5, 16inch, T1AP, Recon), Italia(Recon,AP, ItalianK x 2), Roma(Same as italia), Haruna(2x Haruna guns * 7, Recon, AP Shell), Shouhou
CVLs were both carrying only FTWs, Iwamoto (12AA) and the 11 AA planes, + Reppus in the rest

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ABKM(2x OTOH,Midget) , Maya(2x 5inch, AAR, Night scout, BOFOR ) , Yuudachi(2x 10CM HA + AACi, some AA gun), Yukikaze(Torp, Torp, Lookout, AA gun) , Bisko3 (her fit outfit, T1AP, Recon) , KTKM(Midget,OTOH,OTOH+3/Midget, Torp, Torp)

Not too sure about KTKM and abukuma though, as I sometimes replace Yellow guns for 20.3#3

I tried exchanging the CVLs for Hiyou and Junyou too, and while that gave far better results it off-routed my fleet and made me go circles in the north, if I remember that right.
I then tried to just make them fast ships, but that gave the same or slightly less AA than if I went with Shouhou and Chitose.
Shōhō? For a final map on 甲? Where is your Chiyoda? Your setup is not very well optimised and thus no surprise that you struggled on 甲.
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Old 2017-02-26, 17:29   Link #19829
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Shōhō? For a final map on 甲? Where is your Chiyoda?
I did used my Zuihou (loaded with good fighter) on E3 hard with Ryuujou so it can be done. I won't deny than if I didn't made the mistake to use my Lv99 Chitose and Chiyoda on E2, I would had used those 2 instead.
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Old 2017-02-26, 20:56   Link #19830
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E-3 DONE!

Even if it was a small event, it was quite frustrating (not as frustrating like the 4 golden Ru-Class wall on fall event, but it get's closer).

Spoiler for Decisive Battle:


For landbases, I went full Air superiority in the first base and Full bomber loadout in the second.

Spoiler for Plane loadout:


Managed to get AS in the boss node, at the cost of losing all the chevrons on LBA planes. I'd say it worth the trouble, also blew some Irako and Mamiya's I had over there to get my ships to full sparkle.

General View of this event, a little more frustrating than Fall event. But the change of using the subs in an actual event, rather than Orel/2-3 weeklies gave me a quite pleasant feeling.

Now onto post-event LSC.
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Old 2017-02-27, 09:55   Link #19831
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Well, I managed a clear. E-3 Hard over! Pictures later, as it's late, and I need a snooze.

Mostly kept the same arms, but I eventually had to swap out Akizuki for Ayanami on Last Dance. In the end though, Hyper Kitakami once more carried the day, as a final cut in hit the Twin princesses for 300+ damage.

Debating on whether or not I should try and get Hitomi though... She's a drop even on A-Rank after all.
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Old 2017-02-27, 10:24   Link #19832
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Debating on whether or not I should try and get Hitomi though... She's a drop even on A-Rank after all.
10hours left. Knowing That Hitomi yield rare sub equip upon remodel.
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Old 2017-02-27, 18:17   Link #19833
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well i will say this the chipping phase of e-3 hard was actually really easy up until last dance thats when things got hard. routinely i was able to get to boss and always A rank boss node each time i made it to the boss and only took me 13 sorties to get to last dance give or take. the LD on the other hand kicked me really hard. as i would get set back home more often than get to the boss, i just dont understand what happen because before it was rather easy to get there. anyways this was the fleet i used for the chipping phase

so after getting to the boss and still didnt get good hits on boss i eventually switched to this
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Old 2017-02-27, 20:17   Link #19834
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2nd teaser pic for Zarararara Kai Ni (Due?):
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Old 2017-02-27, 20:48   Link #19835
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did she get a fuel tank inhancment too ?
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Old 2017-02-27, 22:23   Link #19836
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Her tanks got upgrade alright
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Old 2017-02-28, 01:52   Link #19837
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Old 2017-02-28, 01:53   Link #19838
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Old 2017-02-28, 03:22   Link #19839
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She appear to have lost her pantyhose, some ppl gonna cry.


EDIT: Its Zara Due.

It seems you can now upgrade her guns.

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Old 2017-02-28, 04:17   Link #19840
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What is she gets knee highs?
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