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View Poll Results: The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya - Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 236 | 64.31% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 95 | 25.89% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 25 | 6.81% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 1.91% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 0.82% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.27% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 367. You may not vote on this poll |
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2010-04-11, 15:40 | Link #101 | |
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2010-04-11, 22:59 | Link #105 |
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Just finished the movie, and I thought it was very good. Not a masterpiece, but it was very well done. I liked how Kyon's character developed during the course of the movie. I also loved the alternate Nagato, she was so cute. The animation looked great, and the plot was good, too. That being said, I thought it was a bit too long. IMO, they could have shaved 15-30 minutes off the run time and still have the plot remain in tact. It dragged on at times, too.
About it's #1 overall ranking on MAL, only 774 people rated it. Most of the top ten have been rated over 20,000 times. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it'll be pretty hard to maintain that 9.12 average IMO. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Overall, I give disappearance an 8/10. A very good movie, but I thought it dragged on at times. |
2010-04-12, 01:25 | Link #106 | |
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2010-04-12, 05:38 | Link #107 | |
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2010-04-12, 11:19 | Link #108 | |
Koh nara dekiru!!!
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Am, I really the only one who thought that final scene after the credits was extremely cute... and only makes me only want to hug Nagato even more? |
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2010-04-12, 13:23 | Link #109 |
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Well, that was really great... it even managed to live up to the gigantic hype for me, and that's quite a feat. I'm glad I managed to avoid most spoilers, I knew the overall plot but that was it. Kyon getting
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2010-04-12, 19:15 | Link #110 |
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Starting over since my reflection was deleted as I was writing it.
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Gotta take a break....I'll be back to finish up the movie (thank god I have this option), but it's easily the best thing that Kyoto Animation has produced in a long time even if I want to most of the characters to suffer some horrible fate and for the pacing to pick up already. Strip all the hype/fanboyism away from this affair and I think we still actually have something going here for a change which is a huge relief and surprise. Of course the night and the movie is still young..... Spoiler for continuing on from the 30 minute mark:
This is dragging pretty bad at this point as I had heard it would from some of the reviews I've read and the Daily Show is coming on so I'm going to go take another break. I get the feeling it's about to finally pick up though so hopefully that is the case when I get back in 30. Good episode of the Daily Show...well back to the movie then. Spoiler for From the 1:20 minute mark:
Finally made it to the two hour mark and I guess I'm ready for the finale. Right now I'm thinking that it's not so much Disappearance that is the highlight of this franchise so much as any part surrounding the events that took place during the Tanabata Festival and Kyon getting a chance to be the anime equivalent Marty Mcfly. Going to take one more break and then come back to finish this off once and for all. Alright let's finish this off: Spoiler for From the 2 hour mark:
Well that was overall pretty darn good considering how the first hour went. The first part as I mentioned dragged horribly and really made me question whether I wanted to continue watching, but it eventually got going and ended up being well worth my time. I kind of equate it to the anime equivalent of Avatar along with the obvious comparisons to Back To The Future Part II I mentioned. Gorgeous animation quality, decentish story with a few inconsistencies and plot holes here and there that make you question the whole thing by the end. Certainly a far way from the masterpiece it's been hyped as (no surprise) but kind of feels like my first summer blockbuster of the year all the same. Enjoyed parts of it, suffered through others, will probably forget about it soon enough. Last edited by Kaioshin Sama; 2010-04-13 at 01:16. |
2010-04-13, 02:14 | Link #113 | |
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I can't tell you how, but might I suggest taking it like Haruhi takes daily life? Looking to be impressed but instead finding what is ultimately fairly dull drawn out and hollow fair by my standards but with bits of intrigue woven in here and there to just barely help me maintain enough interest to press on and make something of the experience in my own way. Keep in mind that my expectations were pretty much rock bottom and that I wasn't buying any of the hype going in knowing all to well that just goes with the product and brand. I was expecting it to leave me completely out in the cold so the fact that it turned out to have some real merits during some scenes (especially the post-climax ones) ultimately made me want to call it relatively good. Basically I graded it on a curve, but it also helped that the animation was outstanding and thus went a long way in me giving the movie some praise. Last edited by Kaioshin Sama; 2010-04-13 at 02:25. |
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2010-04-13, 02:52 | Link #116 | |
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And how can the data entity not know what Nagato did if she is supposed to be an extension of it? There's just something incredibly hard to swallow about all of this is what I'm saying. I find it highly doubtful that an entity that is supposed to basically be omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent to the point where it can manipulate the fabric of multidimensional space is somehow unaware of it's own abilities. I think once you reach that point of advancement where you basically transcend time and space you should have a pretty good handle on your own capabilities. Plus if the Data Entity really somehow can't understand what Nagato did as an extension of itself (and I still don't buy that it can't) then it should really give up any hope of ever understanding Haruhi. Let me go grab a reference book from my shelf because I want to compare this to contradiction in The Bible. Be back in a jiffy. Edit: Okay it reminds me of The Bible where they could never quite decide on whether god was Omniscient or not. Can anyone hide in secret places so that I cannot see him?" declares the lord. "Do not I fill heaven and earth?" declares the lord. (Jeremiah 23:24) That's the kind of data entity the first book seemed to portray and the answer was no. Now though you're telling me it's more like Genesis 4:9 where Then the Lord said to Cain, "Where is your brother Abel?" Which is it? Omniscience or blindness? Perhaps a better comparison would be to Dr. Manhattan from Watchmen though. Dr. Manhattan abilities while seemingly making him omniscient and omnipotent to the point where he could manipulate the fabric of reality were defined as having some limits. I don't recall anything of the sort being introduced with the data entity. Last edited by Kaioshin Sama; 2010-04-13 at 03:13. |
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In any case, you shouldn't be quick to say 'plot hole' without thinking on it a bit. I realize my second theory is too much reasoning, only made so Kyon action in the end of the movie don't become pointless, but my first one is pretty reasonable. It was said more then once their objectives is just to observe, no reason to think they will suddenly change their minds (although, Ryouko said it was a possibility). Quote:
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Not a real plot hole, you know. I think you are probably right. Last edited by Heatth; 2010-04-13 at 03:38. Reason: spoilers |
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2010-04-13, 03:15 | Link #118 |
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Or at least that seems to be the explaination. One problem (or prehaps it is a feature) of this series is that we don't have all the facts...and we can't tell if the information we are getting, not only from the three factions, but even from the narrator, is in fact true. Kyon is not a reliable narrator. That seems to be one of the quirks that make things interesting. We don't know if Mikuru's faction is telling Kyon the truth. We don't know if Itsuki's theories are correct or he he's lying all the time. We don't even know if Yuki is telling the truth. I'm more inclined to believe Yuki because she even stated that what she says, Kyon might not believe to be true, and that their was no way for her to prove anything. Her style suggests she's being honest more often than not. This could prove false at some later date...but for now...all the informations we have is what we have...via Kyon. The Kyon who might be leaving things out of his story...including his own name.
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2010-04-13, 03:26 | Link #119 | |
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Oh, right now you said it sounds pretty obvious.
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Talking about plot holes in a unfinished work can only be done if the facts contradict themselves pretty badly, in a way it can not be fixed latter. It was not near the case here. Last edited by Heatth; 2010-04-13 at 03:39. |
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2010-04-13, 03:29 | Link #120 |
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Guys, we're getting into spoiler territory here. Might wanna stick some boxes up or switch to the other thread.
I've read the novel so I'm familiar with the plot, but I'm holding off on seeing the movie until it's better quality (the flickering of camrips is too much for me, so I know not to even try). |
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