2008-06-03, 19:38 | Link #1042 |
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
|
To show how messed up this Clinton VP thing is... MSNBC is talking about it right now.
Obama people do not want her. They are going to offer it to her, provided she does not take it and he does not make the offer to another woman. On the flip side Clinton does not want it and is just offering to be it nicely. Clinton's backers do not really want her in the VP slot. This is all going to be one huge play that they will put on. |
2008-06-03, 19:46 | Link #1044 | |
Dancing with the Sky
|
Quote:
Georgia with 15 Elect. Votes (1 of the Big 12 States) There is alot of new voters in GA and alot of Demo votes as well. I think GA will turn from Red State into a Battleground state and a good chance for him to win it.
__________________
|
|
2008-06-03, 20:29 | Link #1045 | |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
Author
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 66
|
Quote:
For some reason, the novel Dune (circles within circles), some of Shakespeare (diabolical intrigue), and a few other Grand Plays come to mind. Keeps the sheeple engaged, ya know. I could foresee her as something like Secretary of State though I suspect she'll relish the commanding position her influence will give her in the Senate more.
__________________
|
|
2008-06-03, 22:15 | Link #1047 | |
Moving in circles
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Singapore
Age: 49
|
It's official, as of Jun 4, 02:40GMT (Jun 3, 22:40EDT).
Obama wins Democratic nomination Quote:
|
|
2008-06-04, 00:40 | Link #1052 |
Somehow I found out
Join Date: Feb 2006
Age: 40
|
If the Obama/Clinton ticket happens, and they run their campaign well, moving quickly to unite any divisions that have come into the party because of the long primary, etc, etc, and running on the shortcomings of the current administration (McCain's going to have a very hard time campaigning on "change", since he is a member of the incumbent party), they will be very hard to beat.
The possibility of the Obama/Clinton ticket makes me very excited.
__________________
|
2008-06-04, 00:43 | Link #1053 | |
神聖カルル帝国の 皇帝
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Korea
Age: 37
|
Quote:
1. If Obama wins due to the Clinton voters, we're in for a even messier world of higer food prices and protectionism. 2. If Obama loses, Clinton would go down with him. |
|
2008-06-04, 00:53 | Link #1055 | |
Bittersweet Distractor
Join Date: Nov 2007
Age: 32
|
Quote:
Still, maybe Nader makes Democrats lose again in states like Florida
__________________
|
|
2008-06-04, 01:21 | Link #1056 | |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
Author
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 66
|
Quote:
I *am* certain that McCain will give us 4 more years of the utterly failed and bereft of moral compass disaster that the Bush Plan gave us (while Bush's cadre filled their pockets from the Treasury without oversight and regulatory agencies were gutted). Why? Because he says so and he's only mitigating to try and attract swing votes because the evangelical base is not "in the bag". Obama/? may not be a stellar ticket for some -- but we have *got* to loose ourselves of the neocon hijack that destroyed the Republican party, ruined much of small and medium business for the benefit of a few, strained relationships with some of our strongest allies, and got thousands and thousands of people killed. I *know* McCain's record, behavior, and who he surrounds himself with --- I've watched him since the 1980s. He's *not* the answer...
__________________
|
|
2008-06-04, 01:22 | Link #1057 | |
神聖カルル帝国の 皇帝
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Korea
Age: 37
|
Quote:
Also, all the biofuel subsidies that Obama is planning will cause more problems in the food prices. |
|
2008-06-04, 01:52 | Link #1059 |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
Author
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 66
|
Aye, canceling/killing treaties isn't even legal under guidelines the US set up. NAFTA was faulty when it was signed --- there's nothing wrong with coming back later and saying we need to revisit some pieces of it. Right now the only people benefiting from some of these trade deals are the companies that dance from country to country.
The biofuel subsidies are an issue from either party because that's a combined Corporate Farm Interest and Corporate Energy Interest. Both parties kowtow to those. The only difference is that the Dems tend to think about the smaller farmers as they toss money at it and the Repubs tend to think about the large farm conglomerates as they toss money at it.
__________________
|
2008-06-04, 02:09 | Link #1060 | |
神聖カルル帝国の 皇帝
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Korea
Age: 37
|
Quote:
Obama: Give more subsidies to produce more, regardless of the results. Clinton: Promised subsidies only when it came to Iowa, was originally anti-subsidies. McCain: Supports biofuel, but is against the subsidies. |
|
Tags |
debate, elections, politics, united_states |
|
|