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Old 2017-04-18, 01:02   Link #3821
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could be something involving relationships..... lol

but yeah with no actual raw update or an extra that isn't covering the manga........ you will never know
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Old 2017-04-18, 02:19   Link #3822
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If it involves relationship, it would be attracting weirdos like Root instead of normal girls lol.
Kinda like that manga where MC attracts only delinquent girls.
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Old 2017-04-18, 05:55   Link #3823
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I like the theory that Makoto's original talent is related to ruling or with people in general.
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Old 2017-04-21, 01:33   Link #3824
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Sorry, no more illustrations till i figure out how to bypass the ebook reader's screenshot protection

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Old 2017-04-21, 01:44   Link #3825
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^go edit your post..... vol 12 isn't even out.

no new posts from the author on alphapol for any possible main story update
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Old 2017-04-21, 02:20   Link #3826
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Royals suddenly defeating an uprising with no signs of how it was done?
I smell shenanigans.
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Old 2017-04-21, 02:52   Link #3827
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Sorry, no more illustrations till i figure out how to bypass the ebook reader's screenshot protection
There are softwares for that, like greenshot .
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Old 2017-04-21, 02:55   Link #3828
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There are softwares for that, like greenshot .
It doesn't work
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Old 2017-04-21, 03:53   Link #3829
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So now begins the Lorel Laybrinth arc. Why do I get the feeling that Makoto might blow the labyrinth into pieces at the end?
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Old 2017-04-21, 06:44   Link #3830
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No the premise is 3 heroes impacting the world they live in, in their own ways. What I can't stand is the lollygagging on character development, Tomoki and Hibiki have grown as characters while Makoto has stagnated, even Hibiki is amazed how uninvolved with his surrounding he is like watching a rich kid trying to deal with real world problems. The plot is just a copy and paste of previous events; business stuff->new residents->follower chapter->Makoto derping through his responsibilities. He's utterly useless unless there's a fight and even then he's just doesn't grow he's just as incompetent at business as he was when he first met Zara the only difference is plot changed his mind so Zara is now his friend, then he meets nobles or whatever and even though he has an intricate spy network he's completely caught off guard by something as simple Prince Joshua's motives. He's also almost uninvolved with everything and a figurehead, it's like watching someone else play a video game his followers are literally doing shit behind his back and he's too self absorbed to notice ANYTHING. You put literally any other character in Makoto's shoes and this story would be 100% better. #Arata4MC
It's not Makoto's job to take care of the world's bullshit.

He's grown as a character and far better than Arata at this point. Hell, his development is probably one of the best I've seen in isekai WNs to date.

What you wanna happen is if you became president of the US, got nuke codes, and slammed the red button repeatedly because fuck the terrorists, fuck ISIS, fuck everyone who fucks with me I got nukes.

Makoto isn't your OP strategist or your OP social casanova. He makes mistakes. He's cautious enough to the point where he only cares about the necessary things he cares about. He's done twiddling his thumbs.

You don't like his passivity, fine. But don't act like Makoto's never developed from day 1. Flaunting your power around isn't much better than Tomoki flaunting his charm eyes and dick around. You should be praising him instead because he's not the power hungry despot he could have been.
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Old 2017-04-21, 07:12   Link #3831
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It's not Makoto's job to take care of the world's bullshit.

He's grown as a character and far better than Arata at this point. Hell, his development is probably one of the best I've seen in isekai WNs to date.

What you wanna happen is if you became president of the US, got nuke codes, and slammed the red button repeatedly because fuck the terrorists, fuck ISIS, fuck everyone who fucks with me I got nukes.

Makoto isn't your OP strategist or your OP social casanova. He makes mistakes. He's cautious enough to the point where he only cares about the necessary things he cares about. He's done twiddling his thumbs.

You don't like his passivity, fine. But don't act like Makoto's never developed from day 1. Flaunting your power around isn't much better than Tomoki flaunting his charm eyes and dick around. You should be praising him instead because he's not the power hungry despot he could have been.
His and his sisters entire reason for existence is to come save the goddess' world, his parents signed the contract that said one of their children is gonna be taken to the other world as a hero. It's his calling to come to that world to save it, the goddess rejecting him has nothing to do with his destiny as a savior.

How has he grown emotionally since the beginning? He keeps his closest confidants at arms length, his level of involvement in the town is basically a figurehead while everyone else around him just asks for the final approval of big decision without him even knowing what is going on until the time to make the decision, 2 of his followers are conspiring against his will to do the things he should be doing and other than his powers he's still as aloof now as he's been since the beginning, actually I change my mind, in the beginning he actually tried to cultivate relationships and learn how to get shit done but now he just wanders around looking for his followers so he doesn't have to do anything other than walking around wandering some more. Even Tomoe, Mio and Shiki have noticed how aloof he growing and Hibiki is genuinely scared of him because of how detached with reality he is, I'm beginning to think that illusion that priestess chick saw and the way the gods are treating him that his facade and delusion is the white part of him and the real him is bubbling underneath and only watching the world around him from the crack. I never talked about flaunting his power it's a power wank story OPness is part of the package I can deal with that I just think the story is stagnating, although tbh the WN stopped updating a while ago so the author is probably done with it and is focusing on the LN, haven't read it but the story is probably more streamlined now.
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Old 2017-04-21, 07:34   Link #3832
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where is vol 12 ?
vol 11 was released yesterday 4/20

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no wonder Mio is so mad, hibitchie sit with zero distance from her beloved mako
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Old 2017-04-21, 09:01   Link #3833
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His and his sisters entire reason for existence is to come save the goddess' world, his parents signed the contract that said one of their children is gonna be taken to the other world as a hero. It's his calling to come to that world to save it, the goddess rejecting him has nothing to do with his destiny as a savior.

How has he grown emotionally since the beginning? He keeps his closest confidants at arms length, his level of involvement in the town is basically a figurehead while everyone else around him just asks for the final approval of big decision without him even knowing what is going on until the time to make the decision, 2 of his followers are conspiring against his will to do the things he should be doing and other than his powers he's still as aloof now as he's been since the beginning, actually I change my mind, in the beginning he actually tried to cultivate relationships and learn how to get shit done but now he just wanders around looking for his followers so he doesn't have to do anything other than walking around wandering some more. Even Tomoe, Mio and Shiki have noticed how aloof he growing and Hibiki is genuinely scared of him because of how detached with reality he is, I'm beginning to think that illusion that priestess chick saw and the way the gods are treating him that his facade and delusion is the white part of him and the real him is bubbling underneath and only watching the world around him from the crack. I never talked about flaunting his power it's a power wank story OPness is part of the package I can deal with that I just think the story is stagnating, although tbh the WN stopped updating a while ago so the author is probably done with it and is focusing on the LN, haven't read it but the story is probably more streamlined now.
Wtf? Their reason for existence is to save that world!?

No, it's not...

You're taking the obvious conclusion of the story, which is Makoto changing the world for the better, which I agree is his destiny in that world.... and forcing it into the reason that the goddess chose one of them.

First of all, the deal they made with the goddess was extremely vague. All she said was that she'll be taking something important of theirs in the future. She never mentioned to them about taking their children to become heroes.

Second of all... her needing heroes at this time wasn't something she could've known beforehand. After all, it was because she neglected her duties as overseer of that world that the demons gained the upper hand, so she decided to summon heroes.

Third... she changed her mind and chose two other heroes to take over Makoto's original role and told him to not interfere with the hyumans, but she still took something precious from Makoto's parents, which she said she would do.

Denying Makoto the role of hero is enough reason to tell you that he doesn't need to play hero to save the world, but since we learned about how he can change his fate and greatly affect the world he lives in, we can conclude that Makoto's destiny is something he himself unconsciously created.

So, no... His and his sisters' reason for existence isn't to save the world, but Makoto's own power is changing his destiny to go in that direction.

Remember his parallel existences? If you think about what we learned from that, Makoto's original destiny would've been to destroy that world, but his power to affect his destiny made him avoid that by letting him meet existences that would make him take a different path.
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Old 2017-04-21, 09:25   Link #3834
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Wtf? Their reason for existence is to save that world!?

No, it's not...

You're taking the obvious conclusion of the story, which is Makoto changing the world for the better, which I agree is his destiny in that world.... and forcing it into the reason that the goddess chose one of them.

First of all, the deal they made with the goddess was extremely vague. All she said was that she'll be taking something important of theirs in the future. She never mentioned to them about taking their children to become heroes.

Second of all... her needing heroes at this time wasn't something she could've known beforehand. After all, it was because she neglected her duties as overseer of that world that the demons gained the upper hand, so she decided to summon heroes.

Third... she changed her mind and chose two other heroes to take over Makoto's original role and told him to not interfere with the hyumans, but she still took something precious from Makoto's parents, which she said she would do.

Denying Makoto the role of hero is enough reason to tell you that he doesn't need to play hero to save the world, but since we learned about how he can change his fate and greatly affect the world he lives in, we can conclude that Makoto's destiny is something he himself unconsciously created.

So, no... His and his sisters' reason for existence isn't to save the world, but Makoto's own power is changing his destiny to go in that direction.

Remember his parallel existences? If you think about what we learned from that, Makoto's original destiny would've been to destroy that world, but his power to affect his destiny made him avoid that by letting him meet existences that would make him take a different path.
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^That right there shows that "precious thing" they agreed to was one of their children, just because they didn't reference it directly doesn't mean that the clues and innuendos of the conversation don't imply it.

So then why was she gonna give him power? Why did she summon him after she saw what her world had become after "napping"? Why was she saying she preferred his sisters? Why did she steal two OTHER candidates and give THEM powers? For shits and giggles? No. She needed a powerful person from another world to give them powers and use sais person as a hero, if she found Makoto to her liking she would've called him a hero, gave him powers and treated him right. You can pettifog and refer to him as a failed hero, but he's a hero nonetheless who's going against convention and helping the world in his own way. Destiny isn't something you can choose, whether he likes it or not he's helping the goddess' world by keeping the fight restricted to only 2 sides, helping the non-combatants and training would be adventurers in proper fighting. Those parallel existences all deal with possibilities like that other god sais, I can't remember his name, those would be lives all have Makoto starting in the exact same way just nuanced differences with different powers manifesting.
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Old 2017-04-21, 11:02   Link #3835
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I don't think the parents know about the children being meant as payment. They are probably just training them to help survive the world, but then again, they might have some clues and reason to believe that one of their children would be taken. But even without that, they still probably needed training because they are really weak. From the big sister pov. for hyuman to live in origin world is really hard. she become strong now but when she is young it's struggle to live.

as for makoto being planned as a hero. isn't he summoned later on?

I don't know the time difference between origin world and goddess world but its just that, it bugs me that the bug made tsukiyomi and makoto wait.

if you ask me, the goddess probably just plans to take makoto as revenge to the parents. while tsukiyomi and makoto waits, she is already selecting beautiful humans to be summoned.

root can't be trusted. when s/he said that there haven't been multiple sightings, summons of hero or humans to the goddess world. s/he's lying. because the founder of the guild was brought into the goddess world at the same time. all 6 of them. from the trash husband of root. he said that they were just playing net game? or pc game when they was suddenly summoned or arrived in goddess world.

as for goddess needing heroes to beat the demons.

the goddess has apostles. if she really want the hyumans to win or just end the war already. she would probably just calls them to end the demons. then again, she probably don't want to wipe the demons. she still created them but.... I'm not sure. She sure doesn't care for the demons to give them better treatment but is that enough warrant to kill them all by sending the apostle?

the apostle is strong. hero is not needed if the apostle is sent.

when tsige decided to call for independence, the goddess send an apostle to end it but tsige is lucky that root and one of the guild founder is there, those two manage to stop it but it still needed those two to stop one.

if well look at just war potential, the demons doesn't stand a chance if the goddess really intervene so why call forth a hero?

this is just my opinion but the goddess just wants another beautiful human added to her collection, so she summons one.

opinion aside, I don't see any need for a hero with how advantageous the hyumans are. its just so happen that the hyumans are dumb and the demons are smart enough to outsmart them.

also for makoto having a destiny as a hero?

I don't think so.

if we're calling of destiny then his destiny/fate was to die as a baby.

The gods and goddesses finds makoto interesting because he keeps on changing his fate. he struggles and survive. he become abnormally strong but it's good that he doesn't flaunt it to others. he isn't drunk by power and the power didn't change him.

though the power is helping on drawing out his inner battle maniac. His roots are showing up with each challenging battle.

Tsukiyomi also said that he doesn't have obligation to the goddess world. just live free. which is what his been doing.
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Old 2017-04-21, 12:15   Link #3836
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I don't think the parents know about the children being meant as payment. They are probably just training them to help survive the world, but then again, they might have some clues and reason to believe that one of their children would be taken. But even without that, they still probably needed training because they are really weak. From the big sister pov. for hyuman to live in origin world is really hard. she become strong now but when she is young it's struggle to live.
Look at the spoiler bit on my previous post, the context of that scene is that the parents made an agreement with the goddess and that's what brought him there. The agreement was they'd take an important thing from them, a couple. And what's most important to parents? And what were they preparing the kids for? Japanese has this thing where they purposely structure sentences to be vague on certain subject matter, this is just another one of those thing, the implication of the agreement is that they'd take a child.

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as for makoto being planned as a hero. isn't he summoned later on

I don't know the time difference between origin world and goddess world but its just that, it bugs me that the bug made tsukiyomi and makoto wait.

if you ask me, the goddess probably just plans to take makoto as revenge to the parents. while tsukiyomi and makoto waits, she is already selecting beautiful humans to be summoned.
Nope reread the first couple of chapters or the manga chapters. This is what happened, the goddess woke up from her nap, saw how fucked the hyumans were, remembered her agreement with Makoto's parents, called in the agreement, Tsukuyomi plucked Makoto from earth, Makoto and Tsukuyomi chatted then the goddess got impatient and forcibly pulled Makoto from the nether-realm, started talking to Makoto before he actually looked at him, was checking out the sisters and thought they're very attractive, saw Makoto and was disappointed, WHILE she was insulting him she stole two OTHER humans from earth then gave him powers and threw him out, at this point while Makoto is falling she's probably talking the Tomoki and Hibiki, Makoto is stoped from freefall by Tsukuyomi and they chat, while the chat is going on the other two get dropped on their kingdoms as told by Tsukuyomi during his convo with Makoto then Makoto is sent on his merry way. Don't believe reread the chapters or check out the manga.


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if well look at just war potential, the demons doesn't stand a chance if the goddess really intervene so why call forth a hero?

this is just my opinion but the goddess just wants another beautiful human added to her collection, so she summons one.

opinion aside, I don't see any need for a hero with how advantageous the hyumans are. its just so happen that the hyumans are dumb and the demons are smart enough to outsmart them.
If I remember correctly the goddess can't personally intervene, her way of helping the hyumans IS by sending in heroes so they can clean up the mess. Before, the demons would try to match the hyumans in strength and they'd lose because hyumans have that passive buff or whatever. But the new demon lord that came around during her nap was different, he'd use tactics, subterfuge etc; to win battles and the hyumans can't adapt because they've had everything handed to them since the beginning.

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also for makoto having a destiny as a hero?

I don't think so.

if we're calling of destiny then his destiny/fate was to die as a baby.

The gods and goddesses finds makoto interesting because he keeps on changing his fate. he struggles and survive. he become abnormally strong but it's good that he doesn't flaunt it to others. he isn't drunk by power and the power didn't change him.

though the power is helping on drawing out his inner battle maniac. His roots are showing up with each challenging battle.

Tsukiyomi also said that he doesn't have obligation to the goddess world. just live free. which is what his been doing.
Yea he doesn't have to help and Tsukuyomi asked more like a favor but that doesn't change the fact that it's exactly what he's doing. Because it's his destiny to help out the world, this talk about fate the gods and goddess are making a big deal about is his power of creation and his weird way of spiting the goddess all the while accomplishing his original goal. They're fascinated because he's an anomaly, a hero who isn't a hero, it's the entire point of this story. Makoto is a hero who's way of saving the world is by becoming an evil god.
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Old 2017-04-21, 12:42   Link #3837
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I agree with all of that and let's not forged the most important factor is that Tsukuyomi the God that Makoto actually respects and believes in told Makoto to do whatever the f*ck he wants to do in that world "Live freely" which is exactly what Makoto has been doing and that absolutely trumps any of the BS that Somethindarker keeps going on about.
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I agree with all of that and let's not forged the most important factor is that Tsukuyomi the God that Makoto actually respects and believes in told Makoto to do whatever the f*ck he wants to do in that world "Live freely" which is exactly what Makoto has been doing and that absolutely trumps any of the BS that Somethindarker keeps going on about.
1. I've been nothing but cordial in expressing my opinion and analyses on what's going on in the story. So I don't appreciate you just chiming in and calling my OPINIONS bullshit.

2. 1 throw away line by a god that has nothing to do with Makoto or his mission does not "trump" any of the stuff I've been saying.

3. If you have nothing constructive to add to the conversation then do us all a favor and kindly fuck off.
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I want to join in but...
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