2011-03-08, 22:40 | Link #821 | |
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on the part that I bold.... I'm thinking o'really... beside getting beaten up by normal people, I don't remember any pandora moment where he does something useful outside of freezing. So I just looked at chapter 34.. screams senpai 3 times than proceeds to try and freeze and fails... talk about embarrassing. Not to mention he always being protected by others. So whatever strength you mention protecting the one they like I certainly don't see it. He is being protected by others more than he could achieved by screaming their names. Let say he tried something which may be manly in your book at that moment, why did he stop and why doesn't he do more........ The simply and most easiest development would be training........ he is not like Kazuki from Maburaho. p.s knowing whats about to come ahead... makes it unfun for me since.... since I won't be able to discuss it, awell. |
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2011-03-08, 23:14 | Link #822 | |
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He has the willpower and the intention, that is good enough. Embarrassing? I'd say he is brave for even attempting to try Freezing on such an opponent that looked like human. At least he isn't blood thirsty. So, wat do you expect Kazuya to do? Materialise a nova weapon? -_-
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2011-03-08, 23:32 | Link #824 | |
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when a character stops and worry that his attack doesn't work that is a sign of weakness as he has given up. even though he has a great tool and but he feels inferior which makes the situation all worst. I don't see intention to strive better nor do I see his determination. He will try to freeze once and pray it will succeed that is exaggeration but I'm not shown determination, a homing of his power or doing something else besides freezing. Even emotional support he is not there beside telling Stella to stop beating the crap out of people. If strength arise from power that itself isn't real strength. He stop and never tried a second time... why didn't he attempt it again even if it was futility it would amount to him wanting to protect. Giving up......... is rather unsightly. This is where we draw the line, since it will be repetitive... I'm not being picky I'm simply asking what else can he do besides freezing which is a plot device. Any emotional determination would suffice as strength for me. These protagonist bothers me more than when they have power but are not using every means to achieve their goal. in the next 3 chapter we will get some more ........................ Last post from this debate for me, If freezing is your way to say he is strong he is no different from any other side character limiter that using freezing to help their Pandora. But at the same time he isn't doing anything more that would valid as true strength. This manga has no strong males which is rather distasteful, lol, why did I start thinking of Raki from claymore.... |
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2011-03-09, 00:14 | Link #825 | |
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I'm also pretty sure that Dr. Aoi (Kazuya and Kazuha's grandfather) doesnt' have clean hands in everything either. |
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2011-03-09, 00:15 | Link #826 | |
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Well, any person would begin to worry if they're trump card has failed. It isn't a sign of weakness, so would u call a strategic retreat as a sign of weakness then? And only a fool would continue using the same technique that obviously serves to be of no benefit. Emotional determination eh? I think the author is sidetracking Kazuya too much imo. Um, I never said that all the limiters are weak, if they stand up with their partner and fight in the face of death, that is strength.
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2011-03-09, 00:31 | Link #827 | |
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However I will agree that the author hasn't developed Kazuya enough even though he is the protagonist as I have mention before in my post. |
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2011-03-09, 00:42 | Link #828 |
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The problem is that only in UxU does the author actually have a strong male protagonist (well, I'm not sure about Zero or Phantom King, as I've never read em)... in every other work of his, it's always "busty powerful ladies with a pathetic male in tow who may or may not have some uber ability that practically never shows itself" (okay, so Onihime vs doesn't quite fit that... since I'm sure the main guy in that one has no abilities whatsoever)
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2011-03-09, 04:58 | Link #830 | |
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2011-03-09, 07:30 | Link #831 | |
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[Stella] I think if Louis tries to force himself on Stella that she should give him the beat down she couldn't give him when they were children. Stella doesn't have kill him just beat him down to show him that you aren't going to take it anymore and should he try again that he may lose his life. Violet: What the hell were you thinking? You know what Louis put Stella through? You think a rich family like them would have spies? She should know that Stella hasn't got over her trama with Louis. If something should happen to Stella you have no body to blame but yourself you put her in reach of Louis. [Louis] To me you haven't change your ways. You just grew up to be a wolf in sheep clothing sexual predator. You are probly abusing the girl you are with now. Leave Stella alone or you might get the can of whip a** she was saving just for you. |
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2011-03-09, 16:57 | Link #832 |
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So... how much rage do you think will be generated in this thread before the scanlators catch up to the RAWs? I'm holding off on reading anything till after the RAGE arc is completely scanlated, plus maybe another chapter or two, and then I'll do a huge burn. Which is about the only thing keeping me from raging myself... that, and I'm fully informed on the spoilers
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2011-03-09, 17:03 | Link #833 | |
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2011-03-09, 18:14 | Link #835 |
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well, it just depends on how serious this arc gets. we all know what the content will be, but how graphic, extreme, and emotional it is is still up in the air, because i'm pretty sure the majority of us here haven't read the raws.
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2011-03-10, 05:59 | Link #837 |
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Read the chapter;
All I will say is Louis is LIKELY still Louis , and frankly I am getting tired of these wimpy ass male protags. I don't need Kamina everywhere but even modest real life Japanese dudes would get the hint Sattella's been beaming out for christ sakes, damn! |
2011-03-10, 22:26 | Link #838 | |
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Idiot!->Yes!->Weak! |
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