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Old Today, 09:03   Link #921
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DBS just bumps it way up. It's always been there. Should've gotten better vs. Cell and then Buu, though.
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Old Today, 09:16   Link #922
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And let's be fair, Golden Frieza and Hit aren't anything compared to Beerus. It doesn't get murky until Jiren and Broly (the former because he was stronger than his GoD, and we don't know how that GoD pairs up to Beerus other than being weaker, but we don't know by how much, and the latter because by definition his power is undefined).
True, I did exaggerate there, sorry
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Old Today, 09:31   Link #923
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I think they're just handling the thing with Ultra Instinct poorly. It does have potential to make the story boring, but I hope they can find a solution to it other than somehow making it so that Goku can't use it. Or they could just end the series after one more arc without having Goku lose Ultra Instinct.
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Old Today, 17:13   Link #924
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At most, Goku should have been able to achieve Omen at will. Giving him full MUI already, or at all, was a mistake.
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Old Today, 17:36   Link #925
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I don't think giving him full UI at all is a mistake. Whis has been trying to get him to learn it for almost the entire series, so he should've gotten it down sooner or later. It'd have frustrated people more if he'd never gotten it down.
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Old Today, 18:27   Link #926
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They'll likely introduce enemies who have mastered UI in the next arc so we'll just end up with regular fights in the end. The problem is that Goku has left Vegeta in the dust this time.
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Old Today, 18:38   Link #927
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I don't think giving him full UI at all is a mistake. Whis has been trying to get him to learn it for almost the entire series, so he should've gotten it down sooner or later. It'd have frustrated people more if he'd never gotten it down.
I mean, they didn't even introduce it as an actual thing until the Tournament of Power, when he obtained it. Before that it was just a training regiment that came off as "don't overthink things".

Reminder, that was one movie and one arc ago. Definitely NOT the entirety of the series.
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Old Today, 21:05   Link #928
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I don't think giving him full UI at all is a mistake. Whis has been trying to get him to learn it for almost the entire series, so he should've gotten it down sooner or later. It'd have frustrated people more if he'd never gotten it down.
They could have kept it at Omen and have MUI be something he never gets complete access at will to.


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They'll likely introduce enemies who have mastered UI in the next arc so we'll just end up with regular fights in the end. The problem is that Goku has left Vegeta in the dust this time.
The gab between Goku and Vegeta is as far as the one between Goku and Piccolo by the end of Z, if not bigger.
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