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cyberdemon · 2020-05-23, 20:18

If Wakasa rumi is attacking Amuro like that then she likely is not Rum but someone working out of revenge. Probably to avenge Haneda Kohji.

B214 · 2020-05-23, 20:46

I feel the same. It's now either Kuroda or Wakita now.

cyberdemon · 2020-05-23, 21:16

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Originally Posted by B214

I feel the same. It's now either Kuroda or Wakita now.

Ones Rum, the other is likely Amuro’s handler. Wakita seems more likely to be Rum to me. That scene with Kuroda seems too much like a red herring to me.

B214 · 2020-05-23, 21:50

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Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Ones Rum, the other is likely Amuro’s handler. Wakita seems more likely to be Rum to me. That scene with Kurosawa seems too much like a red herring to me.

I believe it's Wakita too.

There's a part of me that feels as though Gosho-sensei could be toying readers with all these mysteries only to reveal he already reveal Rum's identity as Kuroda when Kuroda called Rei Bourbon.

cyberdemon · 2020-05-23, 23:19

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Originally Posted by B214

I believe it's Wakita too.

There's a part of me that feels as though Gosho-sensei could be toying readers with all these mysteries only to reveal he already reveal Rum's identity as Kuroda when Kuroda called Rei Bourbon.

Wakita just wouldn’t have much role unless he was Rum. Kuroda has the angle to be Amuro’s handler should he not be Rum. At this point, Watase sensei clearly have a revenge angle going on. Wakita, at least currently, doesn’t seem to have any real role outside being Rum.

So:
Wakita: Rum
Kuroda: handler
Watase: revenge

That is my guess.

B214 · 2020-05-24, 04:12

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Originally Posted by cyberdemon

Wakita just wouldn’t have much role unless he was Rum. Kuroda has the angle to be Amuro’s handler should he not be Rum. At this point, Watase sensei clearly have a revenge angle going on. Wakita, at least currently, doesn’t seem to have any real role outside being Rum.

So:
Wakita: Rum
Kuroda: handler
Watase: revenge

That is my guess.

True, i don't see any point to introduce a new character and end up not using it (like Eisuke, hopefully he's dead off-screen now), so i suppose Wakita being Rum is the likeliest situation now.

GDB · 2020-05-24, 04:17

Yeah, everything points towards Wakita. I'm just hoping at this point that they don't turn Rumi into a sympathetic character and try to act like all is fine with her. She's allowed at least one person to die and put children at risk multiple times just to test Conan. It's bad enough what Amuro's allowed to get away with (not counting movies), but he's the super popular guy so it's understandable.

Ramero · 2020-06-02, 20:07

When the trio gang (Gin, Vodka, and Vermouth) will make their appearance again? It's been a while since those trio are last seen.

wuhugm · 2020-06-02, 20:48

Has Haibara Ai won yet?

Ramero · 2020-06-02, 23:13

More like she got even more suppressed considering she got Amuro watching her as well. Ai already got monitored by FBI, CIA, even the organization itself.

I think Conan should need Kaitou Kid's help for this one since running a heist is Kid's specialty to know what's in the organization store.

Sixth · 2020-06-03, 11:26

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Originally Posted by wuhugm

Has Haibara Ai won yet?

The main pairing is pretty established, so I doubt she has any chance to win anything.

GDB · 2020-06-04, 07:28

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Originally Posted by Ramero

When the trio gang (Gin, Vodka, and Vermouth) will make their appearance again? It's been a while since those trio are last seen.

Probably around December or January. Feels like that's when the big Organization stuff usually happens.

kampfer91 · 2020-06-04, 07:31

When will this series end ?

Ramero · 2020-10-21, 13:06

So finally the Black Robe Organization start to make their move again. This time, the entire executives are being deployed including Gin and Vodka.

B214 · 2020-10-21, 18:52

I'm starting to feel that rum is Wakita.

Ramero · 2020-10-21, 19:46

How did Wakita got information from FBI anyway?

I'm curious as Gin was able to decipher it when he got a contact from Rum.

AP24 · 2020-10-21, 23:58

Vodka is not an executive. Rum, Gin and Vermouth are the only executives in this arc.

An elementary school teacher being mentioned as the one that taught Japanese to Jodie is another hint that Rum is Wakasa.

Ramero · 2020-10-22, 03:21

Ai still suspects that Tooru is one of the Black Robe member (Considering I add robe is because their signature is often wearing a black robe, particularly came from Gin). While for Shuichi Akai has already been clarified that he faked his death and at FBI.

Still, we need more development for Ai since she's one of the key character to unveil the organization.

B214 · 2020-11-14, 07:25

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Originally Posted by Ramero

How did Wakita got information from FBI anyway?

I'm curious as Gin was able to decipher it when he got a contact from Rum.

Through Amuro or BO have been monitoring them for a while. Well I only consider Wakita because.
1. Kuroda is most likely Rei's superior.
2. Wakasa Rumi seems more likely as Amanda Hughes' bodyguard and judging from her obsession with the Shogi piece, maybe she was Haneda Kohji's lover as well.

GDB · 2020-11-14, 20:41

Yeah, I consider Wakasa to be a rogue third party in this. A woman on a mission of revenge who doesn't care whether anyone (innocent or otherwise) gets hurt if it gets her closer to her goal of avenging Koji. Whether she was his lover, sister, whatever, she clearly wants revenge for him.

As for Kuroda, I imagine if he were Rum he'd be putting far more pressure on the FBI to get the hell out of Japan when it's clear they're there for more than just a 3-month vacation. Even Amuro pointed out that their Visas should either be up or close to up by now (during the case at the school, if I recall).

That really only leaves Wakita, whose "job" also allows for the most movement and excuses for not being in a particular place at any given time.

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B214 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	I feel the same. It's now either Kuroda or Wakita now.

2020-05-24, 04:17	Link #167
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Yeah, everything points towards Wakita. I'm just hoping at this point that they don't turn Rumi into a sympathetic character and try to act like all is fine with her. She's allowed at least one person to die and put children at risk multiple times just to test Conan. It's bad enough what Amuro's allowed to get away with (not counting movies), but he's the super popular guy so it's understandable.

2020-06-02, 20:07	Link #168
Ramero 7th Order Knight / Hermit Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St. Celestina	When the trio gang (Gin, Vodka, and Vermouth) will make their appearance again? It's been a while since those trio are last seen.

2020-06-02, 23:13	Link #170
Ramero 7th Order Knight / Hermit Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St. Celestina	More like she got even more suppressed considering she got Amuro watching her as well. Ai already got monitored by FBI, CIA, even the organization itself. I think Conan should need Kaitou Kid's help for this one since running a heist is Kid's specialty to know what's in the organization store.

2020-06-04, 07:31	Link #173
kampfer91 Master Eugenist Join Date: Jul 2013	When will this series end ?

2020-10-21, 13:06	Link #174
Ramero 7th Order Knight / Hermit Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St. Celestina	So finally the Black Robe Organization start to make their move again. This time, the entire executives are being deployed including Gin and Vodka.

2020-10-21, 18:52	Link #175
B214 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014	I'm starting to feel that rum is Wakita.

2020-10-21, 19:46	Link #176
Ramero 7th Order Knight / Hermit Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St. Celestina	How did Wakita got information from FBI anyway? I'm curious as Gin was able to decipher it when he got a contact from Rum.

2020-10-21, 23:58	Link #177
AP24 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2011	Vodka is not an executive. Rum, Gin and Vermouth are the only executives in this arc. An elementary school teacher being mentioned as the one that taught Japanese to Jodie is another hint that Rum is Wakasa.

2020-10-22, 03:21	Link #178
Ramero 7th Order Knight / Hermit Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: St. Celestina	Ai still suspects that Tooru is one of the Black Robe member (Considering I add robe is because their signature is often wearing a black robe, particularly came from Gin). While for Shuichi Akai has already been clarified that he faked his death and at FBI. Still, we need more development for Ai since she's one of the key character to unveil the organization.

2020-11-14, 20:41	Link #180
GDB Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Age: 38	Yeah, I consider Wakasa to be a rogue third party in this. A woman on a mission of revenge who doesn't care whether anyone (innocent or otherwise) gets hurt if it gets her closer to her goal of avenging Koji. Whether she was his lover, sister, whatever, she clearly wants revenge for him. As for Kuroda, I imagine if he were Rum he'd be putting far more pressure on the FBI to get the hell out of Japan when it's clear they're there for more than just a 3-month vacation. Even Amuro pointed out that their Visas should either be up or close to up by now (during the case at the school, if I recall). That really only leaves Wakita, whose "job" also allows for the most movement and excuses for not being in a particular place at any given time.