2014-01-23, 20:40 | Link #361 | |
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I really can't say much, because this is an anime thread.
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2014-01-23, 21:07 | Link #362 | ||
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Isoshima seems fairly harmless aside from her issues and tissues regardless of whatever justification she has and any psychologist worth a salt would recommend her to therapy ASAP. I don't hate her character tbh, but I'm not a fan of "kicking a person while they're already down or Never kick a man while he's down." I judge her actions as going too far even if she has 190% justification for doing so. Just because you have reasons to do something does not give you a free pass to do it. That being said, a little foresight and thinking never hurt anyone imo and letting your emotions control you isn't worth the outcome as a result imo. @Devil: Any psychologist worth a salt would diagnose her as being mentally unstable at the very least. It's also not healthy to be obsessed. Her reaction after the fortune telling is blatantly obvious and shows her lack of faith if she went into denial that easily. :/ Or it could be that the scriptwriter and scenario writer are on some strong stuff or downing that Vodka like madmen and want to make all kinds of crazies with her character. :c Yo, nice to see you too Devil.
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2014-01-23, 21:11 | Link #363 | |
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And before anyone says anything, I'm only talking about the anime. Manga seems okay to me and LN is probably decent at least. But still, there are two routes to evaluate an adaptation: as what it is and as an adaptation. As an adaptation, it sucks. Hard. So many changes, so little advantages given. As an anime, it feels like watching a series of disjointed 'scenes' ('scenes' because most doesn't feel necessary) with excerpts from Physics Text Book inbetween--on a ratio of 1:9 that is. Truly, infodump at the beginning? That is poor writing there, even my Literary/Language teacher knows that. The characters should demonstrate their, well, characterization in the beginning. Also, one should start with the correct amount of mystery and 'revelation' (or foreshadowing too) so as to keep viewers seated and curious. And by those, I meant on the characters' characterization and deep/true characters. Because it's more interesting that way. But seriously, why do we need to read the LN to like/understand/criticize it? That would be like having to buy a DLC to understand the game's story. That would be even worse than Asura's Wrath. I don't hate--well, hate is a little extreme--Arpeggio for its 3D CG Animation; in fact, that was its main saving grace for me (plus Iona and Takao). It is just the story being, well, just so-so and the characters being shallow. Justified for most of the Fog Mental Models, but not so much for Iona and Gunzou. Gunzou is too much of a Stu for me to like and he's not nearly 'cool' enough to make me don't mind it like I did with Lelouch and--to a certain degree--Sakamaki Izayoi. Aria, at least, had a lot of Action Scenes (and hilarious subs too) to compensate for the weak story. So far, we had naught but expositions, expositions (Rush it out, ASAP!--I love that song). In the end, it's mostly just either we knowing too much knowledge about storytelling and anime-making to not like it or people ignoring/in ignorance of all of its flaws because, well, anime. On one side on the extreme we have critics/cynics (or haters as some would call them--I hate that word, making me a hater of hater-user) and on the others there are the optimists/casual (or fanwankers/morons, as some would call them--no, I'm not calling you a wanker). It's just the usual split. Though I find it most interesting that most people who have read the manga and the LN hates the anime. So, does Episode 3 adds anything to the overall plot? I'm always late by about a day because I'm waiting for encoded ones on C12 (bandwidth limits and friends relying on me for anime, no choice there).
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2014-01-23, 21:29 | Link #365 |
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It's in the name.
I wonder how hard will this anime get shafted though... well, unless they shafted the whole writing first, I don't think it will help much. Any prediction on how hard the BD will sell or dump? I'm going for the latter at a value enough to warrant no second-season, but you'll never know. On that note, anyone here goes to Japanese forum or sites posting their discussion? If so, can someone tell me what do they think of this anime?
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2014-01-23, 21:40 | Link #366 | ||
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No wonder someone like this came along. This is what happens when things are taken a little too literally. (Side Note: For those who think that they "understand" the meaning of "Justified", please google it) I have already made my point. I am all for constructive and critical exchange, but this exaggerated statements, nah, I am not gonna entertain no one on this. Quote:
Well joking aside, this is basically what I think about this adaption in a nut shell.... Well not really in a nut shell, but still my opinion exactly.
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2014-01-23, 21:45 | Link #367 | |
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2014-01-23, 21:48 | Link #368 | |
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Apologies for that and to Ougon as well for taking things tooo seriously. Pair Gekkou and Mui together and I'll be happy.
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2014-01-23, 22:36 | Link #370 | |
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2014-01-23, 23:50 | Link #371 |
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Ok I officially give up on the series. As much as I love seeing Miu struggling against Isoshima before getting it on with Takashi (yeah that's right, osananajimi is not some accidental roadkill on the path to true love, but the frigging final boss!), the anime itself is just too painful to watch. I don't want to go through another Reideen again, so I'm just gonna chalk this up to a loss no matter what happens in the end.
Plot twist: Mahou Sensou becomes the best selling series of the cour.
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Now waiting for Takeshi's moment of realization on who he loves... and then his cute jealousy I think it'll be around ep. 8-9 we'll see. Also anxiously waiting how/whether will they animate Kurumi and Oigami Takao's future interactions. Quite amusing too, they were. Sadly they already skipped their first interaction. Quote:
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2014-01-24, 03:23 | Link #375 |
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You know, I will admit one thing: this series has a pretty decent premise. I'm actually having several fanfiction idea, one where the Ghost Trailers' objective was to spread magics (through some sort of bombing) and another where Gekkou is actually a good guy, the Ghost Trailer being anti hero instead of some typical evil organization. Well, those are the premise anyway and they could be combined... but I do am thinking "What if Gekkou is a good guy instead of being just a whiner?"
Protagonist vs Protagonist... that rarely happens...
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2014-01-24, 04:46 | Link #376 |
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Seems to be popular in this thread to dump on the anime, but - not knowing the light novel or manga - I somehow feel that most of the criticism lobbed at the show (especially on the characters) is waaaay overblown. Even DragoonKain giving up on the one osanajimi who I actually give good end-run victory chances? What has the world been coming to?
Kurumi doesn't need a shrink. She was obviously the focal point of endless unwanted attention and then had a particularly traumatic experience in the past, setting off what seems to be a general fear of men. Other than that, she seems to be a perfectly normal adolescent girl. To be honest, from the way of character development, she is the one who I consider to be most interesting. She has both flaws AND qualities to match them. Takeshi suffers the typical denser-than-diamond disease that most shounen show protagonists are subjected to. Instead of picking up on one of the myriads of signs that Kurumi is simply JEALOUS, and dealing with the issue (a talk, anyone?), his knuckle brain ends at wondering what's up in a passive way, and making things worse due to his ignorance. He seems to possess a relatively well-meaning disposition, but it would increase his chances with me if at least 12 of the knuckles in his brain turned into braincells for him to use. Mui is fine. She finds herself in the middle of the Kurumi-Takeshi minefield, and at the very least, she is trying to deal with the ensuing problems in a proper and constructive way. I like her. Fireball guy didn't leave enough of a lasting impression on me so that I can't even recall his name ... but I guess this will change in due time. All things considered, we've got a standard LN setup, definitely not a starburst of originality, but none that I find particularly grating. At the moment, the character triangle (plus the outside add-on) around Kurumi is carrying the story (and my interest). And if my long-range antenna is working, I suspect that Kurumi has better chances to grow closer to Takeshi in a romantic way than Mui, who got an early headstart. So guys, hate all you want, I'll stay on board for the time being |
2014-01-24, 05:11 | Link #377 |
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...hate implies that we care about the anime enough to actively put efforts in actually hating it. And being standard LN setup is no excuse fot being bad. Fate/zero did something similar but it was miles more interesting because despite the expositions (and this is a Nasuverse works, none can match its exposition except Mahouka Koukou) we still get more interactions and revealing on the characters' motivation and characterization, in addition to being able to balance the exposition very nicely (for a Nasuverse work).
So a question: What is preventing Mahou Sensou from being as goof as that?
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2014-01-24, 05:23 | Link #378 | |
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If you're going to compare it to anything, it's better to compare it to the LN adaptations we've gotten in the last season, ie, Tokyo Ravens, Strike the Blood, Unbreakable Machine Doll, and Kyoukai no Kanata. Those are made for the same target audience as Mahou Sensou and use the same typical action/harem LN setup. |
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2014-01-24, 05:36 | Link #380 | ||
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To be fair, I was shaking my head after ep1, since many things really irked me about it. As a big fan of magic-based LNs, I really wanted to like the show, but I had several issues with it. Episode 2 still had many things I didn't like (especially the way they handled the infodumps), but I was getting used to it. And episode 3 was quite all right to me. Got to differentiate between getting irritated about characters or about the show. And I do see some potential in it. Soo... gotta persevere! |
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