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View Poll Results: Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans - Episode 03 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 13 | 19.70% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 29 | 43.94% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 16 | 24.24% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 10.61% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 1.52% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2015-10-18, 17:08 | Link #103 |
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As far as I can see, Mika is acting according to his own will. It just so happens that his opinions always match Orga's and I'm pretty sure Orga makes a conscious effort to make sure he doesn't ask Mika to do anything he doesn't want to do so it goes both ways. The only difference is that Orga is the one who makes the plan to enact those opinions both of them agree on.
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2015-10-18, 17:09 | Link #104 | |
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2015-10-18, 17:15 | Link #105 |
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Holy cow, a Gundam series that is worth watching. In fact, it doesn't even feel like a Gundam series considering how much the bishounen beef cakes are kept in check by regular dosage of punching and kicking.
I have actually looked forward to watching the next episodes after watching the first.
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2015-10-18, 17:15 | Link #106 |
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Well, that was a pretty good ep, and I think I will tentatively pick this series up...first mecha based series since...man, I cant even remember...Rinne no Lagrange s1, perhaps?
Anyhoo, the story continues to interest me and I like the characters, so why not give it a try?
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2015-10-18, 17:17 | Link #107 |
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Orga has proven himself to be a strong leader and a clever strategist. The mutiny
went off without so much as a hitch, and Mika has shown that he's more than willing to do what is necessary in order to protect his comrades. Orga was also more than fair to the First Group; he could have had them all shot, but he gave them a choice. He even gave them a severance package if they wanted to leave. That's very generous of him. I don't know if I could have done the same thing. |
2015-10-18, 17:25 | Link #108 | |
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2015-10-18, 17:30 | Link #109 |
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Gundam: Accounting and Sponsoships!
I'm glad they're going into the funding and sourcing, even for a bit. For a show that's about a poor upstart mercenary group, having plot points like in episode 3 is necessary. One of the things I felt was disappointing in Gundam 00 was that Celestial Being pretty much had unlimited budget. Mika has honed himself into a blade, and a blade needs a wielder. He chose Orga. Now, you can argue whether it was his own choice to give up his self-determination and give himself over to Orga's path, but it's not like this was uncommon. You see it in history and in places of strife, where subjects give up their will in order to serve a strong visionary (generals, kings) etc. I don't think the story will ever go down the route of Mika going into guilt for his killings. He's probably someone like Chris Kyle where killing will never bother him. However, who he kills for and why he kills will probably be a major point of contention, especially if sometime down the road he has to choose between Kurdelia and Orga. Mika is also pretty different from Heero. Heero actually had no will of his own. He was raised and 'programmed' for the mission, and cared about nothing else. That's why after his initial 'failure' he was planning to blow himself up because he had nothing to live for. Mika lives for his comrades, and its his will that has pulled him through and that pushes him to become stronger and surpass his own limits. Last edited by Esclair; 2015-10-18 at 18:04. |
2015-10-18, 17:44 | Link #110 | |
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boys in the Third group to save their own hides. Orga was more than willing to take responsibility for his actions last episode, and he's willing to apply that same standard to First Group. He also gave the First Group a choice; serve the "space rats", or leave and get a nice severance package. Far more generous than what they would have done to Orga and co. |
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2015-10-18, 18:22 | Link #112 |
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On the subject of Mika killing those two guys... honestly, I was expecting more death. A coup is rarely bloodless and Mika strikes me as a product of the current society on Mars in regards to child soldiers. Even when he and Orga weren't a part of CGS in the flashback he looked up and asked Orga what next with an almost placid smile.
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2015-10-18, 18:57 | Link #113 | |||
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Great episode. I'm enjoying Mika's ruthless actions but also his extreme loyalty to his family. I think he killed Crank because he came to respect and sympathize on his way for his motives.
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I don't think she's worried about Kudelia as "competition"; I think in that scene she noticed that Mika was on the edge and read his mood to not bother him. Like she told the mechanic. Edit: Quote:
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2015-10-18, 19:14 | Link #114 | |
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2015-10-18, 19:20 | Link #115 |
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No, but there could be a situation that he has to choose between saving her or protecting nameless kid grunts, and he would order Mika to save her which Mika will rebel against. Mika's motivation isn't just "following Orga", it's protecting his friends and comrades of the team. He's like Crank, that's why the guy struck a chord with him when he told him what he did. However, Orga, in this episode, is starting to show bias toward Kudelia. This will certainly bring forth some kind of conflict.
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2015-10-18, 19:29 | Link #116 | |
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2015-10-18, 19:39 | Link #117 |
its Ghost Madoka time!!!
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you know something is clearly wrong when Mika & Crank's duel is more gentlemanly with the former coming from a poor uneducated society than the most British stereotype that is Neo Britain's Gentle Chapman who resorted to cheating when fighting Domon, the fact his Gundam seems to have more an advantage in long range combat thanks to his signature shotgun rifle as Domon mainly focuses more on melee, to be fair Gentle wasn't on his top health condition that caused him to suffer both physically & mentally.
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2015-10-18, 19:40 | Link #118 | |
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Now, Kudelia may become part of that life, but I could never see him abandoning everything for her. It would go against his entire character. Now, if Mika told him to give it up, he might just do it. But definitely not Kudelia, the two don't have nearly the trust and fraternal closeness that he has with Mika.
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2015-10-18, 19:51 | Link #119 | ||
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I don't think Mika will have "revenge", it'll be just dispute drama before they can work their problems. This is speculating, of course, but I can't fathom why would he "chose" between Kudelia and Orga as you said. Quote:
Frankly, I think Kudelia and Orga are more reliant on Mika, and he's to them. This episode turned the tables.
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2015-10-18, 20:05 | Link #120 | |
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Orga and Mika are reliant on each other. Mika looks to Orga for direction and it's only with Mika that Orga can let his guard down. Notice when Orga is alone with Mika, he act the most like a normal guy? Not a leader that has to have skin harder than steel, and not putting up a facade like he does with the First Group. He is just relax and be normal. I don't know when and if there will be more to Kudelia and Orga, but this was their first time even really talking together, so I'd wait a little more before assuming he would drop everything for her just yet.
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