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Nintendo · 2008-10-28, 17:07

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Originally Posted by OtseisRagnarok

Makes sense, but he still could use it, theoretically.

yeah, i dont see why he cant use it. he used it as a kid when he first invented it. the problem he had was the counter-attack. that's why when he got the eye he said thanks obito for completing the move.

he would be interesting, hes still a genius after all.

tatami · 2008-10-28, 17:12

kakashis loosing the sharingan and

Spoiler for kakashi:

tatami · 2008-10-28, 17:16

and a spoiler :

Spoiler for spoiler:

justavisitor · 2008-10-28, 17:20

But the Fourth told kakashi not to use Raikiri because using Raikiri requires high-speed dash and he couldn't see enemy movement...and that was when he had both eye and kakashi's enemy was average ninja..now every enemy is immortal and if he loses his Sharingan, then he will only has one eye left (still have to confirm that part)...using Raikiri may not be a good idea at all

But of course, if he really loses Sharingan, then i would expect him to learn something new to become better all-around fighter (the manga has managed to change ninja fight to warrior fight anyway XD), and then get the eye back, regardless if it's a normal eye or Sharingan

Ero-Senn1n · 2008-10-28, 17:38

I don't see how could Kakashi lose sharingan. I mean without it he is just a regular jounin level, even his chidori is useful only if he has sharingan eye. What strong jutsu would he have if he loses that eye? He has none. By strong jutsu i mean jutsu which is useful against average akatsuki level ninja. And Kakashi is too old to just redefine himself by learning completely new set of jutsu (for example sennin jutsu), if he loses his sharingan eye then he will probably die. Otherwise he would be useless just as Iruka. The spoiler is either false or kakashi is not hit in the eye but somewhere on his head, and my tip is that the weapon may be the black metal, so Pain wants to interrogate Kakashi by using the black metal based genjutu or to assimilate him into a Pain body. Kakashi will join the Borg

Sakuranbo · 2008-10-28, 17:40

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Originally Posted by justavisitor

But the Fourth told kakashi not to use Raikiri because using Raikiri requires high-speed dash and he couldn't see enemy movement...and that was when he had both eye and kakashi's enemy was average ninja..now every enemy is immortal and he only has one eye (still have to confirm that part)...using Raikiri may not be a good idea at all

But of course, if he really loses Sharingan, then i would expect him to learn something new to become better all-around fighter (the manga has managed to change ninja fight to warrior fight anyway XD), and then get the eye back, regardless if it's a normal eye or Sharingan

He has two; his original eye plus the Sharingan implant. It's easy to forget one or the other since he normally has his headband cover his sharingan eye

justavisitor · 2008-10-28, 17:42

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Originally Posted by Tohei

He has two; his original eye plus the Sharingan implant. It's easy to forget one or the other since he normally has his headband cover his sharingan eye

I was refering to ppl in spoiler saying that kakashi may lose sharingan facing pein...i know he has two eyes up until the latest chapter XD

Fix my wording in the previous post; sorry for the confusion

Sakuranbo · 2008-10-28, 17:49

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Originally Posted by justavisitor

I was refering to ppl in spoiler saying that kakashi may lose sharingan facing pein...i know he has two eyes up until to latest chapter XD

I doubt it, but who knows...

Spectacular_Insanity · 2008-10-28, 17:51

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Originally Posted by OtseisRagnarok

Explain.

I will explain. His attack is so fast that his eyes can't keep up with the speed of his body. Since his attack when he uses Raikiri goes in almost a straight line, the enemy could sidestep his attack and counterattack, and he would be moving too fast to react in time. It is different with Sharingan, where he can not only anticipate his opponent's evasive movement and land his attack accurately, but he will also be able to anticipate (and most likely dodge) any counterattack launched after or during the completion of his attack.

This was all explained pretty thoroughly in the Kakashi Gaiden arc if you need any further proof or explanation.

nydude20 · 2008-10-28, 18:01

damn does Sakura send Tsunade to her death?

chuckcsf · 2008-10-28, 18:30

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Originally Posted by nydude20

damn does Sakura send Tsunade to her death?

Yup!. Tsunade's chakra will be depleted by the slug to heal the injured so yeah, Sakura sends her to ehr death.

Fran~ · 2008-10-28, 19:32

argh... Kishi, this fight is pointless... you already prove your point of how powerful Pain is in the battle with Jiraiya...

Pain is in Konoha looking for Naruto, not to fight.

bah.

DeDe · 2008-10-28, 20:02

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Originally Posted by tatami

and a spoiler :

Spoiler for spoiler:

This turned out to be a fake. It's not from the spoiler guy and was deleted from the thread it came from.

Freya · 2008-10-28, 21:37

Hmm isn't Jiraiya>Tsunade? So if Pain>Jiraiya then doesn't that mean Pain>Tsunade?

nydude20 · 2008-10-28, 22:01

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Originally Posted by Freya

Hmm isn't Jiraiya>Tsunade? So if Pain>Jiraiya then doesn't that mean Pain>Tsunade?

not necesarily...Hidan killed Asuma....but then Shikamaru kills Hidan

Gamma_Sennin · 2008-10-28, 22:58

its seems early for spoilers... but kakashi loosing his eye... :S maybe sasuke saves him and gives him itachi's .. lol then he has EMS in one eye... =.=

but seriously... cant actually wait for the real thing... I just want to know what the "something Big" is gonna be for kakashi... hope his fight with pain isnt kishimotos idea of "something Big".

EDIT: is it me or is that shadowy figure from the spoiler pic Ichigo? everything about it screams photoshop... everything is so bunched... and the repetition of the rinnegan... kakashi has no headband... others have said it look like the picture of kakashi, from the fight with kakuzu..... the first pictuire also looks like a panel from last week.. where kakashi is crawling from the rubble.. with pains hand photoshoped over it (watch last weeks anime episode.. of the hologram hand fading into the real one.. and then look at the first pic of the spoiler...)... and lets not even mention the little marble:S

but who knows.. maybe it is real...

coba · 2008-10-29, 02:00

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Originally Posted by OtseisRagnarok

What?
When did anyone say that? If anything, he should ba able to use it more!

I think he refers to on the drawback of Raikiri mentioned by Yondaime during Kakashi's flashback ar (ch 243-245 I think). I do believe that Kakashi can still use the Raikiri, but if his opponent can counter it, he can't defend himself properly or something like de to the speed needed to perform the Raikiri.

Frenchie · 2008-10-29, 02:57

Yes, but Yondaime merely slightly expanded on what Lee was talking about when watching Sasuke fight Gaara. Chidori is a straight thrust at a blinding speed, and Lee wouldn't be able to do that because straight movement can be easily countered by the enemy.

The only reason Kakashi doesn't get a sword, a kunai, a shuriken or a fist in his face during his Chidori attack is thanks to the Sharingan. Essentially the technique is meaningless without it. Well, except a few variants of it like the Chidori bunshin/dog.

DeDe · 2008-10-29, 03:15

^ I like your avatar El_Frenchie. I know Shika was suppose to be thinking in the panel, but it so looks like he is doing the facepalm.

The pic was real. Confirmed by the usual spoiler guy. We now have pics.

Spoiler for pics:

Spoiler for chapter 423:

I don't think Kakashi is dead, but I do think he loses his sharingan eye. If you notice in the last panel, the nail just doesn't go through Kakashi's brain and kill him instantly. It hits something and blood shoots everywhere. Probably the eye. We'll see. Someone will save Kakashi next chapter. Maybe Gai or Shika and dad.

Gradlein · 2008-10-29, 04:06

It would actually be a lot more interesting for me if the non-sharingan eye was hit. I don't know how Kakashi will deal with that one.

2008-10-28, 17:12	Link #22
tatami back in black Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Turkey Age: 41	kakashis loosing the sharingan and Spoiler for kakashi: getting a rinnegan

2008-10-28, 17:16	Link #23
tatami back in black Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Turkey Age: 41	and a spoiler : Spoiler for spoiler: Source: 2ch,net Credits: mEu7QoCCO Kakashi: I know his power, now i can engage in real battle. Pain: ... Kakashi: I must be careful though, there's something about him that makes him unpredictable. Pain throws ball. Kakashi dies. But it's another Bunshin. Kakashi comes from underground to land an uppercut. Naruto is in mountains still training. Fukasaku: Naruto, about the kyuubi, you should know that absorbing Nature chakra surpresses the quantity of kyuubi chakra in you. By surpressing it you minimize the risk of going to 4 tails. But if you run out of Nature chakra in a matter of seconds then that chakra which is compressed in you might explode and you'll feel a certain burst of energy. Naruto: What's your point? Fukasaku: Use it well. Tsunade is helping civilians. Sakura: Go help the village, i'll take care of them. Tsunade: Pain, here i come. Prepare the special forces, Everyone target Pain. Pain closes his eyes, and reopens them, he cites a jutsu and the chapter ends. Next chapter: God is revealed.

2008-10-28, 17:20	Link #24
justavisitor Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Earth	But the Fourth told kakashi not to use Raikiri because using Raikiri requires high-speed dash and he couldn't see enemy movement...and that was when he had both eye and kakashi's enemy was average ninja..now every enemy is immortal and if he loses his Sharingan, then he will only has one eye left (still have to confirm that part)...using Raikiri may not be a good idea at all But of course, if he really loses Sharingan, then i would expect him to learn something new to become better all-around fighter (the manga has managed to change ninja fight to warrior fight anyway XD), and then get the eye back, regardless if it's a normal eye or Sharingan Last edited by justavisitor; 2008-10-28 at 17:49.

2008-10-28, 19:32	Link #32
Fran~ floating away... Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Beyond World's End	argh... Kishi, this fight is pointless... you already prove your point of how powerful Pain is in the battle with Jiraiya... Pain is in Konoha looking for Naruto, not to fight. bah. __________________ Improving my english ^^

2008-10-28, 21:37	Link #34
Freya Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Yokosuka, Japan	Hmm isn't Jiraiya>Tsunade? So if Pain>Jiraiya then doesn't that mean Pain>Tsunade? __________________

2008-10-28, 17:38	Link #25
Ero-Senn1n Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hidden Village of Sake	I don't see how could Kakashi lose sharingan. I mean without it he is just a regular jounin level, even his chidori is useful only if he has sharingan eye. What strong jutsu would he have if he loses that eye? He has none. By strong jutsu i mean jutsu which is useful against average akatsuki level ninja. And Kakashi is too old to just redefine himself by learning completely new set of jutsu (for example sennin jutsu), if he loses his sharingan eye then he will probably die. Otherwise he would be useless just as Iruka. The spoiler is either false or kakashi is not hit in the eye but somewhere on his head, and my tip is that the weapon may be the black metal, so Pain wants to interrogate Kakashi by using the black metal based genjutu or to assimilate him into a Pain body. Kakashi will join the Borg

2008-10-28, 18:01	Link #30
nydude20 Member Join Date: Aug 2008	damn does Sakura send Tsunade to her death?

2008-10-28, 22:58	Link #36
Gamma_Sennin Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	its seems early for spoilers... but kakashi loosing his eye... :S maybe sasuke saves him and gives him itachi's .. lol then he has EMS in one eye... =.= but seriously... cant actually wait for the real thing... I just want to know what the "something Big" is gonna be for kakashi... hope his fight with pain isnt kishimotos idea of "something Big". EDIT: is it me or is that shadowy figure from the spoiler pic Ichigo? everything about it screams photoshop... everything is so bunched... and the repetition of the rinnegan... kakashi has no headband... others have said it look like the picture of kakashi, from the fight with kakuzu..... the first pictuire also looks like a panel from last week.. where kakashi is crawling from the rubble.. with pains hand photoshoped over it (watch last weeks anime episode.. of the hologram hand fading into the real one.. and then look at the first pic of the spoiler...)... and lets not even mention the little marble:S but who knows.. maybe it is real... Last edited by Gamma_Sennin; 2008-10-29 at 00:28.

2008-10-29, 02:57	Link #38
Frenchie Shougi Génération Graphic Designer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia Age: 37	Yes, but Yondaime merely slightly expanded on what Lee was talking about when watching Sasuke fight Gaara. Chidori is a straight thrust at a blinding speed, and Lee wouldn't be able to do that because straight movement can be easily countered by the enemy. The only reason Kakashi doesn't get a sword, a kunai, a shuriken or a fist in his face during his Chidori attack is thanks to the Sharingan. Essentially the technique is meaningless without it. Well, except a few variants of it like the Chidori bunshin/dog. __________________ Wikileaks - Animesuki, what you would do, might do, or did to make your voice heard.

2008-10-29, 03:15	Link #39
DeDe Ino-Shika-Cho Join Date: Jan 2007	^ I like your avatar El_Frenchie. I know Shika was suppose to be thinking in the panel, but it so looks like he is doing the facepalm. The pic was real. Confirmed by the usual spoiler guy. We now have pics. Spoiler for pics: Spoiler for chapter 423: Translation by Yasha from NF Based on chinese translation. まずチョウジ父がカカシを大した奴認定する首先是丁次父子和卡卡西确认那个修罗道是否死了的画面 First is the scene where Chouji and his dad and Kakashi try to confirm whether the Asura is dead. カカシがペインの能力及びこれからの作戦を解説する卡卡西根据掌握的佩恩能力进行了战斗部署 Then Kakashi explains the battle plan he came up with based on Pain's ability. どうやら引力を使う能力らしい总之是使用引力的能力好像 Apparently it's the ability to use attractive force. んで親子に協力してもらい作戦開始上阵父子兵作战开始 Father and son fighting side by side, the battle begins. 作戦内容はめんどいから省略するけど親子がペインを捕獲する作战内容太复杂，省略，不过最后父子抓住了天道 The battle content is too complicated, hence omitted. But in the end, the Akimichis manage to capture the God. そこにカカシが雷切を射つが阿修羅マンがかっこよい方の前にたち攻撃を身を持って防ぐ然后卡卡西打算用远程雷切射击的时候，修罗道突然出现挡住了攻击 Then just as Kakashi is going to shoot out (long-ranged?) Raikiri the Asura body appears to block the attack. みんな「まだ動けたのか！」カカシ(間に合え) 众人：还能动吗？卡卡西 (赶得上吗?) Everyone: He still can move? Kakashi (Can I make it?) これから融合するらしい鸣人和深作融合 Naruto fuses with Fukasaku. ペイン「動けないフリじゃないな」カカシ(遅かったか) 佩恩：当然还能动 ! 卡卡西：太迟了吗？ Pain: Of course I(he? not sure who's talking) can still move. Kakashi: Is it too late? 回りを見ると親子も他の援軍忍者もみんな吹っ飛んでる(かっこいいのが飛ばしたみたい) 回头看丁次父子和其他忍者都被吹飞了 Turning around, he sees Akimichis and the other back-up ninja have been blown away. ペイン「影分身ではないことはわかってる。確実に死んでもらう」(年には念だ。うかつに近づくまい) 佩恩：看来这次不是影分身了，那么就给我去死吧。 Pain: Seems like it's not kagebunshin this time. Then die! (not translated) 足元こ釘を拾いカカシに向ける捡起旁边的一个钉子仍向卡卡西 Picking up a nail from the ground he throws it at Kakashi (=_=) ペ「痛みを知れ」佩恩：好好品尝下痛苦吧 Pain: Feel the pain! カカシ「ま…この距離なら外しようはないな……」卡卡西：这个距离的话，想逃也没办法的 Kakashi: From this distance, I can't dodge it... The End I don't think Kakashi is dead, but I do think he loses his sharingan eye. If you notice in the last panel, the nail just doesn't go through Kakashi's brain and kill him instantly. It hits something and blood shoots everywhere. Probably the eye. We'll see. Someone will save Kakashi next chapter. Maybe Gai or Shika and dad. Last edited by DeDe; 2008-10-29 at 03:36.

2008-10-29, 04:06	Link #40
Gradlein The Lazy Scholar Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In my apartment. Age: 40	It would actually be a lot more interesting for me if the non-sharingan eye was hit. I don't know how Kakashi will deal with that one.