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Old 2015-09-25, 09:14   Link #7981
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wonder why no one called child service or the likes to what that ass of a father is doing...
if he can be banished, why not do that?
If Skinner or even Thorndike sees this, they will pale and regret even being part to the development of Operant conditioning...
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Old 2015-09-25, 09:42   Link #7982
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Old 2015-09-25, 09:49   Link #7983
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Well, this is going to be extremely interesting.

also, can someone please explain to me just why Senzaemon is in gym clothes? I mean, really? the dignified, strong and occasionally weird super-geezer, in gym clothes?
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Old 2015-09-25, 10:06   Link #7984
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Well, this is going to be extremely interesting.

also, can someone please explain to me just why Senzaemon is in gym clothes? I mean, really? the dignified, strong and occasionally weird super-geezer, in gym clothes?
Said "dignified, strong and occasionally weird super-geezer" just got shot down by his son. Seems fitting. Otherwise, I'd wager he'd lost decent clothes when he got kicked out.
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Old 2015-09-25, 10:08   Link #7985
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Said "dignified, strong and occasionally weird super-geezer" just got shot down by his son. Seems fitting. Otherwise, I'd wager he'd lost decent clothes when he got kicked out.
he was wearing his usual attire when he went to PSD.
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Old 2015-09-25, 10:10   Link #7986
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he was wearing his usual attire when he went to PSD.
Probably being washed. I wouldn't be surprised if that was his only set of decent clothes. I bet he was living on campus as director. Now that he's been fired, his home's probably gone. Think he'll move in to PSD?
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Old 2015-09-25, 10:16   Link #7987
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Well, this is going to be extremely interesting.

also, can someone please explain to me just why Senzaemon is in gym clothes? I mean, really? the dignified, strong and occasionally weird super-geezer, in gym clothes?
Did you happen to miss the fact that the super geezer has more muscles than men half his age? How do you suppose he got them?
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Old 2015-09-25, 10:19   Link #7988
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Probably being washed. I wouldn't be surprised if that was his only set of decent clothes. I bet he was living on campus as director. Now that he's been fired, his home's probably gone. Think he'll move in to PSD?
him moving into PSD will only bring undue and unnecessary attention to PSD and he knows it, though he may come there to 'consult' from time to time.

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Did you happen to miss the fact that the super geezer has more muscles than men half his age? How do you suppose he got them?
That's probably irrelevant to why he's wearing gym clothes at this moment.

Well, this is SnS. questioning peoples' choice of clothing is probably unwise.
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Old 2015-09-25, 10:28   Link #7989
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him moving into PSD will only bring undue and unnecessary attention to PSD and he knows it, though he may come there to 'consult' from time to time.



That's probably irrelevant to why he's wearing gym clothes at this moment.

Well, this is SnS. questioning peoples' choice of clothing is probably unwise.
.... He likes to work out so when he does so he wears gym clothes. He and Souma goes out for a chat and while they are chatting the old man is exercising.
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Old 2015-09-25, 10:36   Link #7990
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him moving into PSD will only bring undue and unnecessary attention to PSD and he knows it, though he may come there to 'consult' from time to time.



That's probably irrelevant to why he's wearing gym clothes at this moment.

Well, this is SnS. questioning peoples' choice of clothing is probably unwise.
It was stated that PSD was practically an independent country. I always believed this fact may come into play for a time such as this.

The recent revelations may explain why Senzaemon was at the testing area for Yukihara's entrance exam. Knowing Erina's brainwashing, he may not have trusted her to make a judgement in line with Tootsuki's principles.
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Old 2015-09-25, 10:46   Link #7991
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It was stated that PSD was practically an independent country. I always believed this fact may come into play for a time such as this.

The recent revelations may explain why Senzaemon was at the testing area for Yukihara's entrance exam. Knowing Erina's brainwashing, he may not have trusted her to make a judgement in line with Tootsuki's principles.
The fact he let her become a judge of the entrance exam in the first place is already questionable if he knew about her unstable state of mind. I mean, why let her become a judge if he didn't trust her?
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Old 2015-09-25, 10:58   Link #7992
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The fact he let her become a judge of the entrance exam in the first place is already questionable if he knew about her unstable state of mind. I mean, why let her become a judge if he didn't trust her?
Remember that Erina is already renowned and already regarded as a gourmet professional in the industry. Rather than describing her mind as 'unstable', she is more than qualified to judge - just that she is engineered to make a black or white assessment based on Asami's ideology, which is a polar opposite of Senzaemon's ideals ('inferior students do have promise/Tootsuki is open to ALL'). That's why Souma calls her tastes boring - it was too perfect.

Knowing Azami, he probably intends on churning out judging criterias similar to how Erina judged Souma, probably even more extreme, considering the commotion he made in Erina's restaurant about 'gourmet' and 'fodder'.

With this said, do hold your spiel on the judging in chapter 1. You've mentioned enough about it. Let's see where the story takes off on this civil war arc.
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Old 2015-09-25, 11:02   Link #7993
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The fact he let her become a judge of the entrance exam in the first place is already questionable if he knew about her unstable state of mind. I mean, why let her become a judge if he didn't trust her?
Maybe he already pointed Soma to be in that group, then as he might expected, Soma was the only staying and causing that reaction to Erina(others were too afraid). Kinda like the beta test to know if he was the one that will save her/ cause the impact that he wanted.

Though what @cheesie said is better imo.
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Old 2015-09-25, 11:27   Link #7994
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Remember that Erina is already renowned and already regarded as a gourmet professional in the industry. Rather than describing her mind as 'unstable', she is more than qualified to judge - just that she is engineered to make a black or white assessment based on Asami's ideology, which is a polar opposite of Senzaemon's ideals ('inferior students do have promise/Tootsuki is open to ALL'). That's why Souma calls her tastes boring - it was too perfect.

Knowing Azami, he probably intends on churning out judging criterias similar to how Erina judged Souma, probably even more extreme, considering the commotion he made in Erina's restaurant about 'gourmet' and 'fodder'.

With this said, do hold your spiel on the judging in chapter 1. You've mentioned enough about it. Let's see where the story takes off on this civil war arc.
Well, I already let it go, but some of Erina's supporters didn't. Whenever some new information was revealed, they took it as a chance to justify Erina and Senzaemon's action in the past, made it looks like part of a wise great scheme instead of just pure bad writing.

You do realize that if Erina's "more than qualified to judge" like you said, it means there's nothing wrong with her, right? Then what's the point of Senzaemon going all his way to beg Souma to "save" her? The fact she needs to be "saved" means there's something very wrong with her. And I can't say letting someone who has something wrong in their head judging others is a wise move at all.
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Maybe he already pointed Soma to be in that group, then as he might expected, Soma was the only staying and causing that reaction to Erina(others were too afraid). Kinda like the beta test to know if he was the one that will save her/ cause the impact that he wanted.

Though what @cheesie said is better imo.
I will totally agree with you opinion, if only the time Erina judge Souma's dish is the first time Erina being appointed as a judge in Tootsuki, but we know that's not the case and she already judged many times before.
What's Senzaemon's motive of letting her judging others if Souma is the only want he wanted to test. Or he's just too desperate to "save" her so he made her judge as many chef as possible to seek someone who wasn't afraid of her, I wonder?
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Old 2015-09-25, 11:34   Link #7995
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Well, I already let it go, but some of Erina's supporter didn't. Whenever some new information was revealed, they took it as a chance to justify Erina and Senzaemon's action in the past, made it look like part of a wise great scheme instead of just pure writing.

You do realize that if Erina's "more than qualified to judge" like you said, it means there's nothing wrong with her, right? Then what's the point of Senzaemon going all his way to beg Souma to "save" her? The fact she needs to be "saved" means there's something very wrong with her. And I can't say letting someone who has something wrong in their head judging others is a wise move at all.
Not interested at all in picking up this trail of topic, so I'm moving on, comrade. Do be still and wait for the developments to happen - I'm sure it'll quench everyone's burning thirst for answers. (Some impatient forums are going haywire. Scariest ones are Azami/Erina doujin shippers. Ah.)
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Old 2015-09-25, 11:40   Link #7996
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Not interested at all in picking up this trail of topic, so I'm moving on, comrade. Do be still and wait for the developments to happen - I'm sure it'll quench everyone's burning thirst for answers. (Some impatient forums are going haywire. Scariest ones are Azami/Erina doujin shippers. Ah.)
At this point, unless the author makes a great change, I almost lost all hope in his story developing skill, since it looks like he just takes the most easy way to move the plot.
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Old 2015-09-25, 11:48   Link #7997
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also, can someone please explain to me just why Senzaemon is in gym clothes? I mean, really? the dignified, strong and occasionally weird super-geezer, in gym clothes?
Because it was plainly obvious he was going to exercise, so you can't expect him to be in his normal attire.
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Old 2015-09-25, 11:52   Link #7998
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Well, this is going to be extremely interesting.

also, can someone please explain to me just why Senzaemon is in gym clothes? I mean, really? the dignified, strong and occasionally weird super-geezer, in gym clothes?
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Because it was plainly obvious he was going to exercise, so you can't expect him to be in his normal attire.
wrong!! because its a cooking manga where Naked Apron senpai can walk freely in the highschool without worry to get send to the prison
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Old 2015-09-25, 12:13   Link #7999
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I will totally agree with you opinion, if only the time Erina judge Souma's dish is the first time Erina being appointed as a judge in Tootsuki, but we know that's not the case and she already judged many times before.
What's Senzaemon's motive of letting her judging others if Souma is the only want he wanted to test. Or he's just too desperate to "save" her so he made her judge as many chef as possible to seek someone who wasn't afraid of her, I wonder?
We dont know how she acted or what she demanded in the previous time she was appointed as a judge. Maybe, like this time, everyone ran out of fear, maybe she judged and said the were not capable enough, maybe she let them pass; there hasnt been a previous Soma sent by Sen to try change her, but mostly students from the school doing the test to go on.
If its not explicitly said we cant be sure about that, we can only know that the time with Soma everyone ran and she rejected his food cause it was against her standards.
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Old 2015-09-25, 12:22   Link #8000
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We dont know how she acted or what she demanded in the previous time she was appointed as a judge. Maybe, like this time, everyone ran out of fear, maybe she judged and said the were not capable enough, maybe she let them pass; there hasnt been a previous Soma sent by Sen to try change her, but mostly students from the school doing the test to go on.
If its not explicitly said we cant be sure about that, we can only know that the time with Soma everyone ran and she rejected his food cause it was against her standards.
The thing is, with her way of thinking, Erina tends to reject "second-rate foods". It doesn't necessarily have to be Souma, any unfortunate "second-rate chef" tends to get unfair judgement by her. Unless it's revealed that Senzaemon has some way to make sure no "second-rate chef" other than Souma would be judged by her, his decision of making Erina a judge is questionable.
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