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Perfect 10 | 55 | 43.65% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 39 | 30.95% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 22 | 17.46% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 5.56% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 0.79% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 0.79% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 1 | 0.79% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2012-05-12, 23:10 | Link #83 | |
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2012-05-12, 23:15 | Link #85 |
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It was a good episode. Sure I think they could have shortened it a bit, but if they were going to spend an episode on Kiritsugu's past then might as well do it like they did here. Sure a lot of things about Natalia's death were kind of predictable, but it was still good. You knew she was dead the second she went on that plane and that her target probably hid the bees inside his body. Though it did take a bit to realize that Kiritsugu was going to blast the plane out of the sky.
Making a different decision compared to the Shirley situation, but not ending up any happier for it. Of course a different situation since Shirley could only be saved by death. Rather than risking the casualties if the plane landed he made sure the only casualties would be those on the plane already. No shock he kind of lost it for a bit there. Did kill this mother figure and frankly someone he felt more affection for than his father. This was important for giving some context to what Kiritsugu is now. A real mess of a person with all that's happened and what will likely happen going forward. Of course now the race is on with this series. The death count is going to have to really pick up since they only have so much time.
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2012-05-12, 23:21 | Link #86 |
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Much like last week, the entire episode was build up to the emphatic final scene, and, even more so than last time, said scene certainly didn't disappoint. One of the most powerful endings to an anime episode I've seen. Kudos to Rikiya Koyama for an accordingly great performance. Kiritsugu's proving to be an even more tragic figure than I had initially envisioned, and unfortunately for him I doubt his suffering will be over anytime soon. How much more broken can the man get, one has to wonder.
Also, that second OST needs to come out ASAP. That long track which accompanied this episode's introductory scene was a thing of beauty. Dem guitar riffs~ |
2012-05-12, 23:26 | Link #87 |
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What a coincidence; this episode just had to air on Mother's Day...
I liked this episode somewhat better than the previous one. The pacing is smoother and the BGM is spot on in most of the scenes. With Ep 18 and 19, we have a full picture of Kiritsugu and how did he turn out to be the person he is in the present storyline. In my opinion, the producers handled it very well - the only thing I can complain about is that we should have gotten the flashback eps earlier. At this point, it's interrupting the story, and as much as I liked the flashbacks, I'm glad that we're returning to the Holy Grail War next episode. My favourite scene was when Kiritsugu was going to shoot down the plane. The position of the seagulls around him, the amazing BGM - everything was just right. That scene alone seemed to exemplify Kiritsugu's character, especially his consequentialist ideals. It was tense and heartbreaking to watch. Kiritsugu's broken through and through, as we see during his breakdown after the plane explodes. I think Rikiya Koyama did a good job portraying Kiritsugu this episode. So...yay, we're back to the battle next episode! |
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2012-05-13, 02:24 | Link #90 | |
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btw: what is the success chance of the "Natalia shoot the cockpit glasses and jump out, dive into the water before the plane explode" plan? |
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2012-05-13, 03:10 | Link #92 |
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Rarely do I give out a 9 due to my stingy nature when it comes to rating, but this episode was executed so very well. Almost everything was perfect. Kiritsugu easily has been the highlight of Fate/Zero and this background on him just enhances his character so much despite the severe limitation imposed on him. That burst of emotion at the end changed my initial impression about the episode where I was ready to peg it down as melodramatic.
Excellent! In addition to what LunarMoon said, the speed she was travelling at also made sure there is no safe escape. Her body would have torn apart at the first contact with the water at that speed. Chances of her surviving was virtually zero.
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2012-05-13, 08:30 | Link #93 |
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Such a tragic past did Kerry had. He lost the girl he love and let her become a monster, killed his father outta of revenge and was force to kill his "mother" for everyone's sake.
10 out of 10.
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2012-05-13, 08:30 | Link #94 |
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This episode gave me a different impression from the novel. In the novel, it was made clear by the narration that Natalia was convinced Kiritsugu was in a hotel in New York, and therefore did not have the slightest suspicion he was going blow the plane up. On the other hand, the anime made it seem like she was perfectly aware of what Kiritsugu intended to do and accepted her death, like her dying smile indicates.
Of course, it doesn't change anything for Kiritsugu, but it changes my impression of Natalia's character.
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2012-05-13, 09:14 | Link #95 |
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Sorry to get into an unnecessarily technical detail that's largely irrelevant to the thrust of the story, but I have some questions for those more knowledgeable than I am about aviation &/or the nature of these magical bees. Would the shooting down of a large airliner at low altitude, with most of its fuel spent, with a single, shoulder-mounted missile, guarantee the elimination of all the bees? In the anime, the plane exploded and disintegrated in mid-air. Would that really have happened with the amount of fuel left in the plane after a trans-Atlantic flight? Given that bees are much smaller than humans, thus less affected by sudden acceleration and less likely to be struck by debris, what is the likelihood that some bees might have survived the mid-air disintegration? Or were the bees already "spent," after having infected the passengers?
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2012-05-13, 09:38 | Link #96 | |
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2012-05-13, 09:45 | Link #97 | |
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Kiritsugu always goes for the choice which has the most certainty of saving the most people. |
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2012-05-13, 10:07 | Link #99 |
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As someone who's well versed in type/moon series, allow me to share my explanation on Kiritsugu's action on this episode.
Keep in mind that in his childhood, Kiritsugu holds the idea of becoming a hero of justice. The reason why Kiritsugu shoot down the plane is because that he discern that there's a risk of the undead spilling out upon landing. If that happens, a lot of people would die before the undead/bees can be taken down. He decided that the only way to drop that risk to 0% is by shooting down the plane. As much as Natalia is important to him, the danger to the millions of lives outweighs that feeling. So he pulled the trigger. This act, is a turning point of his life, more than what happened in his village. His image of a hero has been shattered; he realize that he cannot save everyone, and that often like, sacrifice must be made, even those that are important to you. To save hundreds you must sacrifice dozens, to save billions you sacrifice millions. By the end of the episode he broke down because of that. At that point of his life, he died, all that left is an emotionless husk that soon become renowned as the 'Mage Killer'. ps: Natalia's smile at the end, that's because she realizes just how much she knows about him. She's not sure where he is, but the thought of what he would do does crossed her mind. So when he shot the plane, I'm sure that she smile and thought, 'Hah, I knew it...' PS: the undeads/'bees' cannot survive long without feeding, so any that survived the explosion would've just died after a while from lack of sustenance. Sustenance as in life force btw, not food or brains.... so droping them to the ocean is a safe option with very minimal risk. You might argue that fishes are sustenance, but even animals can sense the evil presence from the undead, and thus stayed away from the bodies. Animal instinct and all. Last edited by Klashikari; 2012-05-13 at 11:14. Reason: no spoiler allowed |
2012-05-13, 10:21 | Link #100 |
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Oh, one more thing.
Natalia who always values surviving the mission won't even consider a water landing. At the speed they're going, it would be unlikely for her to successfully landed the plane. And in the unlikely chance that she does survive, don't forget that she's still be trapped in a plane filled with undead/bees, so her survival would be unlikely. Of course, with Kiritsugu nearby, there might be a 1% chance that she might survive the ordeal... but as the matter stands, she doesn't know that. And so, she choose to land the plane, and so, Kiritsugu shot it down. why? because at that speed, there's small chance that the plane will landed intact. Most probably it would be damaged and the content will spill out. |
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