True Tears - Spoilers and Speculations (based on weekly episode previews)

[jaisrh]

Originally Posted by Kaoru Chujo

1. Hiromi intended to run away for good, but it was a spur-of-the-moment desperate decision, and she really has nowhere to go, anyway. I think she'll be back, especially since I'm convinced that she's disrobing in her own room in the preview.

I agree with you that although she intended to run away for good at that moment, she was bound to end up back at Shin's house one way or another. I think they end up being pulled over by the police and taken back home. Even if that were not to happen, let's explore the scenario further, once they reach the destination it would'nt take long before Jun would feel the need to go home because of Noe. He might wait a little while for Hiromi to change her mind so he could take her back but if even she did'nt then he would leave anyway because he does'nt want to leave Noe alone. Hiromi would soon realize how impulsive her act was and also realize that she could'nt realistically run away because she has little if any money and because after calming down she would also consider her feelings for Shin. At that point Shin would have realized after coming home that Hiromi had run away and would seek out Jun to find out where he took her. Both Shin and his father would then find Hiromi and by then she would not resist coming back because she would have had time to think and because the intensity of the despair she felt earlier would not have felt as strong anymore. I just wanted to explore what would have happened even if they were not taken home by the police.

3. I think it's too early to say that Jun "doesn't care for her in the least." Their interactions have had a spark of understanding and honesty, to me, despite the fact that he didn't really decide to ask her out himself. He doesn't ask many or any girls out, if the implications of his telling her that he only goes to the cinema with Noe are to be believed. And when she is desperate, she feels able to turn to Jun to help her carry out her desperate plan.

He would'nt have asked her out if he did'nt think it was necessary to get Shin to go out with Noe, so that does'nt really show anything. He is also desperate to at least keep the illusion that they are dating alive so Shin won't have a reason to break off his relationship with Noe as shown in the gym when Hiromi asked if one relationship broke then would the other. So he said he was willing to do anything as long as she did'nt break off dating him because he wanted Noe to continue dating Shin. As for her turning to Jun, she held a card to force him to give her a ride since she knew he felt so strongly about keeping Shin and Noe dating that he would'nt refuse that request. I think they see each other as useful in that dating Hiromi is necessary for getting Noe with Shin in Jun's mind while Hiromi is using that knowledge to make him give her a ride to run away. It is'nt much more than that unless you romanticize more into it than there really is.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by jaisrh

...He would'nt have asked her out if he did'nt think it was necessary to get Shin to go out with Noe, so that doesn't really show anything.... I think they see each other as useful....

Good points, but all I'm trying to demonstrate is that it's going too far to dedlare that Jun "doesn't care for her in the least." I thought that was too strong a statement.

What I see in the way he speaks with her, in his comparative honesty and dependability, is that he at least feels friendly toward her. Sure, he wouldn't have asked her out if not for the deal, but there was an indication that he doesn't ask anyone out, at least to movies. And now that he knows her, he seems to like her okay.

And yes, Hiromi turned to him because she had a card to play, but she wouldn't have turned to someone she didn't feel some trust in. And I think the trust is justified.

And remember that he said it would be "komaru" (a difficulty) if either of the couples split, and that he would do anything she asked. I am just unrealistically romantic enough to think there is a possibility the "difficulty" was not just his worry about Noe, but also a hint of desire not to split with Hiromi. At least the script was written so as not to exclude that possibility.

I continue to find Jun a fascinating character.

Golthin's prediction is the same as mine, even though I prefer Noe to either Ai or Hiromi. Not to say I don't like all three of them. Good characters.

[cloudninja]

I saw the episode titles for episodes 11 and 12 up at anidb.net, they make sense according to what I expect for how the show turns out. Not sure how accurate the titles are because maybe someone did'nt get the translation right but I think it should be close.

Spoiler for episode 11 and 12 titles:

11) The One You Like Isn't Me (probably Noe saying it to Shin)
12) Because My Eyes Can't See Anything (guessing it's Shin who says this as he's supposed to be the dense male protagonist)

[golthin]

Originally Posted by cloudninja

I saw the episode titles for episodes 11 and 12 up at anidb.net, they make sense according to what I expect for how the show turns out. Not sure how accurate the titles are because maybe someone did'nt get the translation right but I think it should be close.

Spoiler for episode 11 and 12 titles:

11) The One You Like Isn`t Me (probably Noe saying it to Shin)
12) Because My Eyes Can`t See Anything (guessing it's Shin who says this as he's supposed to be the dense male protagonist)

Brilliant man! I got nothing to add! I agree 100% with your analysis of those titles!

[lea]

Spoiler for Episode 9:

I wouldn't mind Shin with any of the girls. But I'm a little worried about the Hiromi/Shin thing because it's almost like the ship is sailing too soon! We have 4 more episodes to go, and already Hiromi and Shin realize that they are not siblings, and Noe is realizing that Shin likes Hiromi. The obstacles to a Hiromi/Shin romance are very quickly disappearing, so there is the potential for them to get together really soon. As early as the next episode, I can easily see Shin getting together with Hiromi. Shin and Hiromi will then have time to develop their relationship, but, if they truly are the final pairing, this will lack any kind of drama and conflict, and there won't be much to do for 2-3 episodes. Because of the amount of episodes left, there is time and potential for Shin to realize that it's Noe he really likes, and then get back together with her in the last episode (probably during the dance performance where Noe has already asked Shin to give her a sign if he notices her in the audience).

I still like Jun (he was trying to avoid hitting a rabbit! and he took what happened to his bike very calmly). It does, however, seem like he gets aggressive in the next episode. In any case, I find his character so interesting and look forward to seeing if an "evil" side comes up because of his protective feelings for Noe.

[cloudninja]

Originally Posted by lea

Spoiler for Episode 9:

I wouldn't mind Shin with any of the girls. But I'm a little worried about the Hiromi/Shin thing because it's almost like the ship is sailing too soon! We have 4 more episodes to go, and already Hiromi and Shin realize that they are not siblings, and Noe is realizing that Shin likes Hiromi. The obstacles to a Hiromi/Shin romance are very quickly disappearing, so there is the potential for them to get together really soon. As early as the next episode, I can easily see Shin getting together with Hiromi. Shin and Hiromi will then have time to develop their relationship, but, if they truly are the final pairing, this will lack any kind of drama and conflict, and there won't be much to do for 2-3 episodes. Because of the amount of episodes left, there is time and potential for Shin to realize that it's Noe he really likes, and then get back together with her in the last episode (probably during the dance performance where Noe has already asked Shin to give her a sign if he notices her in the audience).

Spoiler for above:

You're not factoring in Shin's denseness, the guy is just not that perceptive which is normal for most male protagonists. It'll probably take him at least 2 episodes to realize that Hiromi likes him despite the clues she will give him. I don't think Hiromi will just come out and say it so soon. There's also Jun who from the episode 10 preview seems to be trying to prevent Hiromi from getting closer to Shin. In the meantime Shin still thinks that he and Noe will continue going out as I don't think she broke up with him yet. Give it a couple of episodes before that happens.

[Kaoru Chujo]

Originally Posted by cloudninja

Spoiler for above:

You're not factoring in Shin's denseness, the guy is just not that perceptive which is normal for most male protagonists. It'll probably take him at least 2 episodes to realize that Hiromi likes him despite the clues she will give him. I don't think Hiromi will just come out and say it so soon. There's also Jun who from the episode 10 preview seems to be trying to prevent Hiromi from getting closer to Shin. In the meantime Shin still thinks that he and Noe will continue going out as I don't think she broke up with him yet. Give it a couple of episodes before that happens.

It's still pretty early, but unfortunately this could be true. I pray that this plot does not descend into banality.

Spoiler for ep9:

Now we have to depend on the convenient sibling/not-sibling trick, and the denseness of the protagonist. Not propitious. And I blieve I'm saying this objectively, not because I like Noe. I like Hiromi, too. I blame her for nothing and admire her for a lot.

[ZODDGUTS]

Originally Posted by cloudninja

Spoiler for above:

You're not factoring in Shin's denseness, the guy is just not that perceptive which is normal for most male protagonists. It'll probably take him at least 2 episodes to realize that Hiromi likes him despite the clues she will give him. I don't think Hiromi will just come out and say it so soon. There's also Jun who from the episode 10 preview seems to be trying to prevent Hiromi from getting closer to Shin. In the meantime Shin still thinks that he and Noe will continue going out as I don't think she broke up with him yet. Give it a couple of episodes before that happens.

Spoiler for Yup:

Agreed Shin's denseness will make himself think that he likes Noe it likely won't be till Noe slap's some sense into Shin that he truely loves Hiromi and not her. Shin will complicate as to how he'll get together with Hiromi. Also remember that he still thinks that Hiromi likes Jun, Noe will encourage him to finally "fly" i.e. tell his feelings to Hiromi. Even if he thinks he may not have a shot with Hiromi he'll still go for it and muster up the strength to tell her about how he feels. Once he does that bang they'll get together. I don't believe all of this will happen till ep 12.

Though I would rather prefer if it was Hiromi that would doing the "going after their love one" thing because the whole situation with Shin being with Noe and Hiromi being with Jun is her fault to begin with because of her lies. She's likely to apologize either way once she tells him the truth about not really liking Jun that it was just a lie so that they wouldn't get together because she thought they were related, this will likely happen when either Shin or Hiromi admit their feelings which will result in her breaking down and telling the truth because there's no reason for her to hold back anymore.

There's also Jun who won't give up Hiromi anytime soon because of his sis, the preview pretty much shows that, I wouldn't be surprise if there's a fight between Shin and Jun comming in the next few episodes. At earliest I see Hiromi and Shin getting together at very end of ep 11 but most likely I'll be ep 12 with ep 13 being an epilouge seeing as to what the characters are doing after the whole ordeal is over.

[lea]

Spoiler for prevous comments:

I agree with the remaining obstacles. However, I guess I just don't see these obstacles as very exciting because I think that, in essence, they are ones that can easily be overcome. Hiromi can take care of the denseness problem by telling Shin how she feels. Sure, it's an uncomfortable thing to admit your feelings for someone, and she may think Shin likes Noe, but this didn't stop Aiko! There is nothing really to hold Hiromi back. If she can't do it, then she only has herself to blame. If Shin wants to break up with Noe, I think Noe will let him go and not try to hold on to him, so she's not a big obstacle. As for Jun, we never know what he may come up with but, at the moment, he doesn't really have anything he can hold over Shin and Hiromi to prevent them from getting together.

The external obstacles (the sibling relationship, Noe, Jun) have been taken care of or don't seem to be very strong obstacles. The strongest obstacles, I think, would be Shin and Hiromi themselves - but this may cause me to become annoyed with them or make them less likeable to me (because I'll feel like they're causing the problems themselves and wonder how Shin could be so dense or how Hiromi can be so passive!) Right now, I can't help but think that I would find a potential Shin/Noe ending more exciting to watch over the next four episodes. However, a lot can happen in four episodes, and the writers have not yet disappointed me. If Shin/Hiromi is the final pairing, I'm sure the writers can throw in some new problems, make any of the above problems worse, or add some other surprise, so that the ending is truly satisfying.

[germanturkey]

too much to hope for Noe to go Sekai on us?

joking aside, it is kind of unfortunate that they decided to reveal the final pairing so early, unless a huge twist happens, i can't see anything changing with that respect. Aiko seems like she'll patching things up with Nobuse (kudos to him for what he did for Shin in ep 9) but we still don't know if she'll try something in the next few eps.

btw, we haven't had the mandatory pool/hotspring ep yet. wtf

[golthin]

Originally Posted by germanturkey

btw, we haven't had the mandatory pool/hotspring ep yet. wtf

They have too much material to cover to waste on that. Those episodes are mostly for filling up and fanservice.

[mcruz1014]

From the scenes and dialogue in the preview at the end of episode 9, it looks like Aiko will try to break it off with Nobuse in the next episode. While it seems pretty clear that Hiromi and Shin are the final pairing, the lack of obstacles impeding their romance is a factor that everyone else has mentioned. If the two were to realize their feelings for each other (in demostrative fashion, of course, ex. some kind of date/hug or kiss, etc.) then I can foresee Jun as bringing some kind of conflict into the picture because of his protectiveness of Noe (he was also seen being a little aggressive in the ep 10 preview). Jun probably won't take a Hiromi/Shin pairing so lightly. Another speculation I'd like to make is that Nobuse is due for some sort of dramatic explosion. There have been hints at his possessiveness of Aiko, and his denial about Aiko's real feelings(when he stops Aiko from saying that she really doesn't love him) and if Aiko confesses her true feelings in ep 10, expect some fireworks.

[Deathkillz]

Originally Posted by golthin

They have too much material to cover to waste on that. Those episodes are mostly for filling up and fanservice.

Not to mention that there isn't the atmosphere to do so...honestly I can't see all three girls together without wanting to kill each other within the first minute

Jun is going to be in one hell of a mood when Noe tells him that she has broken up with shin. Maybe not official yet but she has pretty much given up (I duno about how shin felt about her words but he is dense anyway ).

I still believe that Jun has sis-con so it will be interesting to see how he will "fight" to protect her sister from emotional harm (RIP shin ).

[golthin]

Originally Posted by mcruz1014

From the scenes and dialogue in the preview at the end of episode 9, it looks like Aiko will try to break it off with Nobuse in the next episode. While it seems pretty clear that Hiromi and Shin are the final pairing, the lack of obstacles impeding their romance is a factor that everyone else has mentioned. If the two were to realize their feelings for each other (in demostrative fashion, of course, ex. some kind of date/hug or kiss, etc.) then I can foresee Jun as bringing some kind of conflict into the picture because of his protectiveness of Noe (he was also seen being a little aggressive in the ep 10 preview). Jun probably won't take a Hiromi/Shin pairing so lightly. Another speculation I'd like to make is that Nobuse is due for some sort of dramatic explosion. There have been hints at his possessiveness of Aiko, and his denial about Aiko's real feelings(when he stops Aiko from saying that she really doesn't love him) and if Aiko confesses her true feelings in ep 10, expect some fireworks.

Well, the first person that agree with me. I felt like the only man in deserted island. The reason that I think that Aiko finally is going to make it clear to Nobuse and why she couldn't wait any longer.

1. She is meeting him in the morning before school. they go to different schools so she is making a special trip to meet him.

2. It is obvious that Nobuse was not expecting to see her there.

3. The face that She has is the same face we saw in the mall and the shrine.

4. I doubt that Aiko will be compelled to meet him so early in the morning if she was just going to stay with him. they have not broken up, they are still "dating", Nobuse stopped the impending break up.

5. It makes sense that they will use this now, they need to throw some more chaos in Shin's life.

6. the spoilers for episode 10 indicate that there will be a lot of angst on Shin side on episode 10 coming from Noe, Hiromi and AIKO. I doubt that Aiko reconciling with Nobuse will cause any trouble for Shin, now they breaking up will really cause big trouble.

[germanturkey]

i was only kidding about the pool/hotspring guys...

man, i feel bad for Aiko. it makes me sad to think her chances of winning are basically axed because Hiromi and Shin aren't siblings.

[germanturkey]

one last speculation based on the preview. Jun see's what's going on, and he drags hiromi off somewhere. Shin finds out and hijacks a bike to chase after them. character and relationship development ensue when he finds them.

[jery626]

Originally Posted by cloudninja

I saw the episode titles for episodes 11 and 12 up at anidb.net, they make sense according to what I expect for how the show turns out. Not sure how accurate the titles are because maybe someone did'nt get the translation right but I think it should be close.

Spoiler for episode 11 and 12 titles:

11) The One You Like Isn't Me (probably Noe saying it to Shin)
12) Because My Eyes Can't See Anything (guessing it's Shin who says this as he's supposed to be the dense male protagonist)

Spoiler for :

11) The One You Like Isn't Me (Nobuse to Ai)

[golthin]

Originally Posted by jery626

Spoiler for :

11) The One You Like Isn't Me (Nobuse to Ai)

possible but unlikely! I think nobuse and Aiko will be resolved in episode 10, with a final conclusion later on. now if it was Nobuse he will go up in the coolness meter.

[hai_san]

Spoiler for about the 11ep Title:

well since we are already speculating
11) The One You Like Isn't Me (probably Hiromi saying it to Shin)

[Muyasuki]

Spoiler for Episode 11 title:

I'm going to go out on a limb and say. . .
11) The One You Like Isn't Me (Hiromi to Jun)