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fertygo · 2011-12-26, 16:53

Did we even seeing Loli Assasin in anime? Anyone have screenshot?

Thess · 2011-12-26, 16:54

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Originally Posted by chaos_alfa

I don't remember reading anything about that. In which act was this subplot?

It was an abandoned subplot (scrapped by Gen, but still present in the Art Material so...). One of the assassins (that loli) breaking out the hive mind, forgetting she's a Servant (IIRC) and being found and adopted by Waver and Rider... They grow really close.

Until Kirei forces a command spell and Waver has to take a horrible choice to deal with it.

chaos_alfa · 2011-12-26, 16:57

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Originally Posted by Thess

It was an abandoned subplot (scrapped by Gen, but still present in the Art Material so...). One of the assassins (that loli) breaking out the hive mind, forgetting she's a Servant (IIRC) and being found and adopted by Waver and Rider... They grow really close.

Until Kirei forces a command spell and Waver has to take a horrible choice to deal with it.

That sounds awesome

To bad Gen didn't include it

Auria · 2011-12-26, 16:58

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Originally Posted by chaos_alfa

That sounds awesome

To bad Gen didn't include it

Really wonder why he did not include it... maybe he thought it would fit his style way too much to create a bond just to sever it later

Knightrunner · 2011-12-26, 17:00

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Originally Posted by Thess

It was an abandoned subplot (scrapped by Gen, but still present in the Art Material so...). One of the assassins (that loli) breaking out the hive mind, forgetting she's a Servant (IIRC) and being found and adopted by Waver and Rider... They grow really close.

Until Kirei forces a command spell and Waver has to take a horrible choice to deal with it.

I wish they could have included this

Thess · 2011-12-26, 17:04

Probably that and space (where would it fit to make it flow smoothly?).

More despairrrrrrrrr. This was a subplot to make Waver mature more earlier on the storyline. He always got the godawful choices about children (Loli Assassin, the Caster's lair).

It's still a popular idea among the fanbase, here:

Spoiler for two fanarts inspired by the ditched subplot... warning for PANTLESS ISKANDAR and loli cleavage:

Kaioshin Sama · 2011-12-26, 17:05

A three way team up with the hero servants is a pretty cool way to end the season, but how will they bring down the Kraken?

lightsenshi · 2011-12-26, 19:44

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Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

A three way team up with the hero servants is a pretty cool way to end the season, but how will they bring down the Kraken?

Personally, I've been seeing Rider vs Caster for a week or two. I'm expecting it to be Rider's army vs Caster's army.

PhoenixFlare · 2011-12-26, 22:14

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Originally Posted by Kaioshin Sama

A three way team up with the hero servants is a pretty cool way to end the season, but how will they bring down the Kraken?

A quick idea would be for Rider to manifest Ionian Hetairoi to break CthulhuCaster, but I have a gut feeling that it wouldn't be that easy ... would it? Caster is, after all, known to be a master of territorial defense.

Qilin · 2011-12-27, 02:32

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Originally Posted by Malkuth

No it's not the end of the series, but rather the beginning of a very long wait

Ah. If it's that, I guess I can agree.

Looking back, I think I got carried away in my earlier post. I can at least see where some viewers are coming from. This show has occasional problems when it comes to integrating long dialogue with the action sequences to the point that it becomes visually uninteresting. Though, if that's the problem, episodes 12 and 11 did it much worse.

Of course, as a person who watches Fate/Zero for the characters and their characterization over the plot, any scene that explores the characters' personalities and goals further is just as satisfying as a gloriously animated fight sequence.

Anyhow, rating the fist half as it is seems kinda pointless since we can't really judge the plot without all the cards on the table. The most we can go on are the other details like execution, characters, animation, music, etc. Either way, a proper rating from just that is insufficient.

Meltyred · 2011-12-27, 12:00

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Originally Posted by PhoenixFlare

A quick idea would be for Rider to manifest Ionian Hetairoi to break CthulhuCaster, but I have a gut feeling that it wouldn't be that easy ... would it? Caster is, after all, known to be a master of territorial defense.

The show's main character is saber, so saber will do everything.
Like EXCALIBURRRR!!!!!!!
And bam Caster loses.
After lots of drama.

But seriously, I don't know.

kakakka · 2011-12-27, 13:48

I liked how they focused on dialogues in the series. However, at the same time, because I am reading subs, I always look at the scene after reading and I am a bit disappointed on how some of them are animated. The bad art becomes very noticeable as the anime progress, and I think they could have done better. I wonder if I'll feel the same thing if this is dubbed to English.

Ragna92 · 2011-12-27, 15:42

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Originally Posted by Meltyred

The show's main character is saber, so saber will do everything.
Like EXCALIBURRRR!!!!!!!
And bam Caster loses.
After lots of drama.

But seriously, I don't know.

Saber is not the main character.

Thess · 2011-12-27, 15:51

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Originally Posted by Ragna92

Saber is not the main character.

Technically, she is (or at least the face of the series that is promoted)... Although Waver and Rider seem to be stealing the show from her and Kiritsugu.

lightsenshi · 2011-12-27, 16:04

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Originally Posted by Ragna92

Saber is not the main character.

Okay, I'll bite. Who is?

Reckoner · 2011-12-27, 16:27

I would say Fate/Zero is a bit more of an ensemble cast, meaning that no particular person really is the "main" character. However, Saber, Kiritsugu, and Kotomine will most likely be who the story delivers the most attention to in the end.

Thess · 2011-12-27, 16:52

The character development seems focused on Waver and Kotomine, even if Kiritsugu is the 'default' protagonist among the Masters.

giorno · 2011-12-27, 17:06

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Originally Posted by lightsenshi

Okay, I'll bite. Who is?

ALL of them

with a special emphasis on Kiritsugu and Kotomine. Saber is probably the 3rd most focused-on character though...

DragoZERO · 2011-12-27, 17:38

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Originally Posted by Meltyred

The show's main character is saber, so saber will do everything.
Like EXCALIBURRRR!!!!!!!
And bam Caster loses.
After lots of drama.

But seriously, I don't know.

If Saber's hand was healed she could probably annihilate that entire summon with Caster. Excalibur is an anti-castle NP after all.

Xellos-_^ · 2011-12-27, 21:01

for all those who were grumbling about the lack of gore form Casters lair

[NSFW]http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/12/28/fatezero-manga-too-guro/[NSFW]

has a article about the Fate Zero manga with a couple of pages regarding Casters Lair decorations.

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fertygo Hyakko Fanboy Join Date: Nov 2008 Age: 32	Did we even seeing Loli Assasin in anime? Anyone have screenshot? __________________

2011-12-26, 17:04	Link #146
Thess Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010	Probably that and space (where would it fit to make it flow smoothly?). More despairrrrrrrrr. This was a subplot to make Waver mature more earlier on the storyline. He always got the godawful choices about children (Loli Assassin, the Caster's lair). It's still a popular idea among the fanbase, here: Spoiler for two fanarts inspired by the ditched subplot... warning for PANTLESS ISKANDAR and loli cleavage: __________________ *"Who* would understand you after I die? Who else would march forward by your side?"**

2011-12-27, 16:52	Link #157
Thess Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010	The character development seems focused on Waver and Kotomine, even if Kiritsugu is the 'default' protagonist among the Masters. __________________ *"Who* would understand you after I die? Who else would march forward by your side?"**

2011-12-27, 21:01	Link #160
Xellos-_^ Not Enough Sleep Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: R'lyeh Age: 48	for all those who were grumbling about the lack of gore form Casters lair [NSFW]http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2011/12/28/fatezero-manga-too-guro/[NSFW] has a article about the Fate Zero manga with a couple of pages regarding Casters Lair decorations. __________________

2011-12-26, 17:05	Link #147
Kaioshin Sama Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Neither Here nor There Age: 39	A three way team up with the hero servants is a pretty cool way to end the season, but how will they bring down the Kraken?

2011-12-27, 13:48	Link #152
kakakka Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008	I liked how they focused on dialogues in the series. However, at the same time, because I am reading subs, I always look at the scene after reading and I am a bit disappointed on how some of them are animated. The bad art becomes very noticeable as the anime progress, and I think they could have done better. I wonder if I'll feel the same thing if this is dubbed to English.