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Perfect 10 | 71 | 42.77% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 34 | 20.48% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 20 | 12.05% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 19 | 11.45% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 7 | 4.22% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 6 | 3.61% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 4 | 2.41% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 3 | 1.81% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 0.60% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 0.60% | |
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2010-06-20, 20:28 | Link #201 | |
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again, its not a definite indicator of the others disappearing... but it kinda points towards that...
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2010-06-20, 23:01 | Link #202 | ||
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2010-06-20, 23:46 | Link #203 |
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This may sound like a really sacrilegious idea to some but, why doesn't he focus on just presenting a good story instead of being so obsessed at making people crying?
As long as he is hung up on that, he is limiting his own options and we are more likely to see things like the Naoi awkward hug scenes in the future I had the impression that Angel Beats was an attempt to break into the more mainstream market instead of just core Key audiences. |
2010-06-20, 23:50 | Link #204 | |
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i7 870 (OC to 4.0) 8 GB DDR3 ram 2 TB HD 2 Blu-ray drives 5870 Crossfire setup We're not even talking about Coolermaster CSX paint job case or my Dell U2711. In regards to the show, again I feel it's poorly directed and written. They execute particular scenes remarkably well but the scenes don't really flow altogether that well and it seems that they're jumping multiple plot threads. |
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2010-06-21, 03:09 | Link #206 |
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How exactly is it a rip-off of the Matrix? No doubt they're probably in a virtual reality but the messages and the execution couldn't have been more different. Does the Matrix have slapstick and black humor ( major part of Angel Beats)? No. Does the Matrix involve dealing with the regrets of your past lives (A Major part of Angel Beats)? No. Does Angel Beats allude to the implications of Descartes Third Wave of doubt and rage against the malicious demon responsible (A major part of the Matrix)? Maybe in the very last episode, but it probably won't actually be the most pressing issue, since it never has been from the start. The Matrix isn't the first to do the Platonic Cave, and even if Angel beats is doing it, that doesn't mean it's playing the trope in the same way The Matrix is.
Similar =/= Rip off. Pretty much everyone has been aware of the pacing problem from the start. It's just that our perception of it varies. It's annoyed me at times but I'm willing to overlook it because there's a lot of other things I've liked. (and it's clear other factors are affecting your perception of the pacing issue, aswell)
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2010-06-21, 03:55 | Link #207 |
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Oh, in that case Avatar is not like Pocahondas because it has blue Elves. But going further...
Ep 12 was not that much of comedy or slapstick. The Matrix DOES involve dealing with the regrets of your past lives (see ep 1 and 2 of Animatrix) I have no idea what this third wave is to tell if there is one. And why are we all making comparisons to the Matrix and not to any other Platotic Cave type of story? I for once can't think of another one that resembles it THAT much. The second that comes to mind is SE Lain and it's still far different. |
2010-06-21, 04:06 | Link #208 |
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I will say that... with only 13 episodes, Angel Beat should cut some of the drama element and have more slice-of-life/adventure. So when the drama comes, it's actually dramatic
It should stay true with one genre/storyline/direction instead of trying so hard to be another by going after everything(and yes, we as audiences are part to blame then). Like playing Clannad, and choose Kyou route, and keeps wondering why this Tomoyo or Nagisa girl appearing from time to time.... I means as game it's reasonable. But anime is not so. Sekine and Irie disappeared and even while i really really like them (read GDM novel), i felt...nothing It' disappointed. I knows AB can be a big hit, something many others failed to reach even close. But they missed their chances
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2010-06-21, 05:14 | Link #210 | |||||
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The Avatar ripped off the entire plot. Angel Beats is not ripping off the Matrix's entire plot. I'm arguing that Angel Beats only has superficial similarities. In The Avatar, the only difference was the setting. In Angel Beats, the only similarity is the setting. Quote:
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2010-06-21, 05:43 | Link #211 |
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I am hoping for the rest of the answers to come in epi 13. What happens to everyone and what happens to the world they are in and who started the whole thing or something answering its beginning existence.
Epi 12 advanced the story line pretty well and I was questioning how the story can be wrapped up in the last couple epis.
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2010-06-21, 07:28 | Link #212 | |
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By the way, I've found this quote from relentlessflame on the "What qualifies as well written?" thread on the General Anime Forum. I think this quote should sum up what you think about Angel Beats!.
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2010-06-21, 08:12 | Link #213 | |
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When it comes down to this, the success of the anime is based on the individual. I found Angel Beats! very entertaining, if not as beautiful and well-detailed as Clannad or Kanon. It's certainly not as thought-provoking as similar series such Haibane Renmei, but that doesn't mean it got me thinking. Still, I think I was able to receive what Maeda, in relentlessflame's terms, was trying to communicate through Angel Beats!. So was the series successful for me? Yes it was. The only problem with it is Maeda was trying to do what he's used to doing in a sixty-hour visual novel in a thirteen-episode series. He doesn't have practise in this area of expertise. It doesn't mean he shouldn't try; in fact, it means he should try more, so that he can gain that experience which will allow him to write a story as well-recieved as Clannad or Kanon for an anime plot. I personally liked that Maeda tried to write a script for an anime. To me, it seems that most creative people in Japan nowadays are thinking: "I'll just make a manga/game/light novel, and when it becomes popular, it'll get an anime adaptation." If you look at upcoming anime, more and more of them are just adaptations, and I've checked. For the last year, we're lucky to get three original anime series a season. I think we had two this season. I'm not saying anime adaptations are bad, but I think we need more original anime scripts to revive the anime industry from the slump it's been hitting. So that's why series like Angel Beats! are important to me. It's leading the way for good writers like Maeda to write scripts for original anime. If more celebrated writers decided to write an anime script instead of just writing another type of creative media and waiting for an adaptation, things might start to look up. |
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2010-06-21, 08:30 | Link #214 |
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Can we all just agree that this suffered the same fate as Umineko? It appears that if you do not prepare for 5 years Taking in consideration how fucking long Fairy tail took to come out for example. Shows of this epically vast caliber will simply choke with an insufficiently allocated budget.
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2010-06-21, 10:12 | Link #216 |
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I actually find everything to be happening too fast and sudden, if it had more episodes it would have been better. And I'd like to have seen TK and Kanade's pasts. There's also the other SSS members that I think they should have revealed, but that's just my opinion.
It would have made sense for Yuri to disappear, since she seemed complete at least. |
2010-06-21, 12:19 | Link #217 | |
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2010-06-21, 15:05 | Link #218 | |
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Just because a crappy band can connect to certain teenagers doesn't make it a good band, it just means that the band is good at targeting a certain demographic. |
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2010-06-21, 18:43 | Link #220 | |
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All those men experimented and helped to further music. Please tell me how some pop bands, that just plainly rip off of other bands, help to further music. I honest to god would love to hear how Hannah Montana has furthered music as a whole or how Justin Bieber has helped to create a new style of pop. |
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