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View Poll Results: Hanasaku Iroha - Episode 10 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 13 | 17.81% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 23 | 31.51% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 24 | 32.88% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 5 | 6.85% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 5 | 6.85% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 3 | 4.11% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
Voters: 73. You may not vote on this poll |
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2011-06-07, 16:24 | Link #102 |
Blooming on the mountain
Join Date: May 2010
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Well, in my opinion whether or no she is sick has little to do with whether or no the supernatural can objectively "bust in" to one's dreams. Some might even say being in an "unnatural state" can sometimes pre-dispose one to be able to receive such contact (although one's choice of who and/or what contacts one and what they might be able to do to someone in that unnatural state is another issue). Being in an unnatural state as a result of illness or some kind of substance may lend one's mind to over-active imagination, delusions and the rest, to be sure. But that does not de-facto rule out the possibility of supernatural, "otherworldly" elements from objectively being able to contact one in a dream. Whether or no you believe in such things to begin with is another issue entirely. And whether or no such elements have a place in this story in particular is a matter of preference, I think. For me such elements are fine and (as of now) do not "infringe" upon the story in a negative way. As some have argued up to now it is kinda hard to find a common thread throughout the first 10 eps to begin with!
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2011-06-07, 16:58 | Link #103 | |
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I'd like to see Hanasaku stay very grounded in tangible reality. I like Anohana, but I frankly can't relate much to it, due precisely to the nature of a certain core character in it. So I'd like for Hanasaku, at least, to remain something that feels somewhat plausible and "real" to me.
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2011-06-07, 19:04 | Link #104 |
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: U.S.
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agrees, HanaIro doesn't seem like a supernatural anime.
At most there might be some divine coincidences or the staple July ghost/spirit encounters in East Asian Culture. Anything specific would be too much
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2011-06-08, 00:25 | Link #105 |
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Even if you take the kou/fox goddess as a fever induced dream and nothing supernatural, I think it was important because it allowed Ohana a chance to be clear about how she feels about her new life as opposed to her old one. Kou represented the only wonderful about her old life and his being in the vision/dream is only because he's important to her still. I don't see this as a rejection of kou as a person.
I had to LOL at Toohru and his reaction to Ohana during the meal scene, especially when she brought the strawberry to her mouth. My first thought was, "strawberry time...". |
2011-06-08, 08:13 | Link #106 | ||||
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Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: United Kingdom
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Now, I can certainly understand what is your criticism and where your coming from. We had Ohana episode after episode where she's always on the upswing, always running off saving everybody without any hint that she was feeling unsure about whether or not she was really making a difference. However, the way I see it, and you are free to disagree with me on this, is that this episode was the cool down episode, where Ohana, after living on nothing but adrenaline, running from place to place, doing everything she can well and beyond her limits, accumulating all that fatigue without resting sufficiently, finally shuts down. She overworks herself to the point where she becomes ill, and while on bed, she has nothing to do but sit there by herself, only meeting the staff while they are checking on her and telling her that she should rest because they don't need her. Now what they mean is that they have everything under control, they had done this without her before But being sick, she takes it as that all the hard work she done these past ten episodes has been for naught. There wouldn't be a difference if she were to go (which where the dream comes to play in IMO) and at the end of the episode she gets emotional from all of these feelings of happiness that that her sickness didn't cause any problems, but at the same time how she feels frustrated that she's not needed. As for why we didn't see her struggle with these feelings before hand, I think it has to do with her personality and mindset. Ohana is the sort of girl who doesn't really dwell on these negative ideas. She rather acts rather than think, and since she was unable to do anything constructive this episode as opposed to the past 9, she had nothing to do but crumple to these negative thoughts. Quote:
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And I'm not sure what would constitute a real plan. I mean we had plot points such as Ko coming to visit Ohana showing up well before he came, Ohana dealing with the confession, Minchi's growing acceptance of Ohana, Nako becoming more open to her etc. Do these not make it feel like it's following a plan? As for TT and Anohana, I would point out that, much any work written by Okada, they share their own problems. It's the fee of entrance into a show she had her hand in I think. You have to accept the good with the bad, though in the case of both Anohana and Hanasaku, imo, there isn't much bad here to overshadow the good.
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2011-06-08, 09:51 | Link #107 |
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: USA
Age: 37
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Supernatural!? That sure is out of no where, kind of.
I think this would have to be the worst episode for me so far. And I am surprised Minko is being so nice here. It's obvious that Ohana is stealing her crush away. The drama from that should be fun.
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2011-06-08, 19:32 | Link #108 |
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Where you live... the question is, do you see me?
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Well, Ohana finally did herself in. And Ohana's not even a quarter the age of her grandmother... she should take better care of her own health. Pushing a human body to it's stamina limits is admirable, but unadvised when your job is cleaning the front desk and entrance. Recklessly chasing after a bat with a broom is a surefire way to get tired, and quickly. There's no need to get overly determined over simple housework.
I actually admire the fighting spirit of Ohana. Kissuiso really needs Ohana's enthusiasm to operate - just as Minko and Nako say (although they may have been saying so to make Ohana feel better). So, they also need her to learn self-restraint. Know one's own limitations, and work within them. Ohana can still get up early in the morning, but maybe not so early. The moral of the story is good - throw in feverish, dream-like elements, and the entire episode becomes a surreal experience. Seriously, I almost thought they replaced Mari Okada with Franz Kafka. Ohana eating Tohru's food could have been a meaningful, dramatic event... if the camera weren't so zoomed into Ohana's wet lips and Tohru's red face. Jiroumaru's masterfully crafted story about Madam Manager - reminded me of episode 3, and this is not a good thing. Finally, Ohana encountering Ko at a Bonbouri Festival was simply unnecessary. Some works of fiction have incorporated both realistic and unrealistic elements together to make something wonderful... but they all do so from the start. Changing the style this late in the game inevitably messes up the content. Hanasaku Iroha's selling point is real-life drama. Despite being harsh with my comments, I'm a generous rater. I just never give out 10s. Episode 10 Rating: 8/10 |
2011-06-09, 10:29 | Link #109 |
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I very surreal episode on the whole with many weird transitions, but for the whole experience I think the episode gave us alot about how, Ohana has intergrated into Kissuiso which is the build up from episode 1 - 9. So its basically a half way point into her new life with her finally wanting her new life compared to her old life.
I'm honestly routing for the underdog here who at this point still supports Ohana when she is feeling troubled, I think thats a another point that this episode showed. The people in her life that she can turn too when she is feeling troubled which always happens to be Ko. Premium was a teaser for Ko fans, after the whole Tohru scene for the build up of the romantic tension. And yeah Tohru has obviously fallen for Ohana (he strangely seems very innocent)... poor Minko -_- Seriously waiting for when Ko shows up at the inn, wonder whether Tohru will give up then. Just a random thought which is not likely going to happen. Overall 9/10
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2011-06-09, 13:39 | Link #111 |
If only you were brave.
Join Date: Apr 2011
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Frankly, I was annoyed by Ohana's attitude with this episode. Granted, her liveliness has made things more fun at the inn for the employees but you get sick and you expect it to fall apart without you?
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2011-06-10, 20:06 | Link #113 |
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Join Date: Jun 2011
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Not gonna lie, I really don't like it when a character feels like he/she's not good enough and doesn't feel important enough and wants to get outta the kitchen.
But the whole situation made such a sweet and adorable ending. All thanks to Nako and Minchi. x3 |
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