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Old 2018-04-27, 19:57   Link #141
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For all the romanticizing of Oda Nobunaga, Isoroku Yamamoto, the Shinsengumi, and several others, I'm surprised that someone like Togo Heihachiro (who actually lived and became a legend within the timeline of Golden Kamuy) is not given that same level of fascination by Japanese pop culture. Togo should be as adored as Horatio Nelson is adored in British folklore; Western journalists were not wrong at all when they dubbed him as the Nelson of the East.

And by the way, you should see Togo on pictures from the time when he was much younger. He would be great material for a being an anime male protagonist.
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Old 2018-04-28, 06:01   Link #142
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I guess Togo was too successful (no "bad end") to become as popular in Japanese pop culture.
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Old 2018-04-28, 08:07   Link #143
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A little historical background on the events in Golden Kamuy: https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/fea...-kamuy/.130932
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Old 2018-04-30, 12:18   Link #144
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New episode of cooking anime is here

Hinna, Hinna~

The panned gold nugget? wut?
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Old 2018-04-30, 13:57   Link #145
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New episode of cooking anime is here

Hinna, Hinna~

The panned gold nugget? wut?
Cursed..got it wrong, as seems Rivers are ultra sacred for Ainu.

Yeah far better cooking anime that echii no Soma.

And seems the Seventh Division wants the gold to buy weapons to the Gringos...they're using the gold for their original intent...
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Old 2018-04-30, 16:37   Link #146
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Anyone else get the feeling that this anime/manga is meant to introduce the Ainu culture to people?
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Old 2018-04-30, 16:39   Link #147
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Anyone else get the feeling that this anime/manga is meant to introduce the Ainu culture to people?
The manga the same but that is a plot element, the only other Ainu in anime i knew was Hororo of Shaman King
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Old 2018-04-30, 17:42   Link #148
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New episode of cooking anime is here
You seriously scared me into thinking it would be a fluff episode but it turned out to be a perfect combo of comedy and lightheadedness followed by some dark plot. Those skewers in the mouth were nasty. The second worst part is that the story tries to lure you in first with food porn.
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Old 2018-04-30, 19:28   Link #149
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This show just keeps getting better. Loved both the first half and the second for completely different reasons. Sugimoto seems to have gotten quite attached to Asirpa (who wouldn't?), to the point he doesn't want to put her in danger anymore. He did it for her grandma and the villagers too, after seeing how much she means to them. Really good guy. However, Asirpa isn't the kind of girl that can stand being sheltered. In fact, if Sugimoto explains that to her (assuming she hasn't already figured it out), she's going to be even more pissed off.

The 7th division's leader (I should learn his name) continues to be a scary and crazy bastard. His face-off with Sugimoto was quite chilling. I wouldn't to end up alone with that guy...
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Old 2018-04-30, 21:38   Link #150
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Freaking SJW anime but instead of Indian it's Ainu
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Old 2018-05-01, 07:17   Link #151
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I don’t think it’s SJW since Ainu was discriminated centuries ago. It showcases their culture since they’re not depicted in fiction

If you paid attention to the previous discussions, you’d see.

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Funi has the first episode out. Ian Sinclair is Sugimoto and Monica Rial as Asirpa.
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Old 2018-05-01, 07:32   Link #152
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There's nothing "was" about it - it's still happening now. The Japanese tried to eradicate Ainu language and culture and there are still powerful politicians in Hokkaido denying it ever happened (with the tacit encouragement of the Abe government).
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Old 2018-05-01, 07:40   Link #153
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I guess we can say Sugimoto has a couple extra mouths now.

While not something I would recommend doing with at least a discussion I can understand why Sugimoto wanted to leave Asirpa. When she in the village she just seems like any other kid and mature exterior faulters. Emotionally you wouldn't someone her age to get caught up in all this nasty business with gold.

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Old 2018-05-01, 08:21   Link #154
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I don’t think it’s SJW since Ainu was discriminated centuries ago. It showcases their culture since they’re not depicted in fiction
No, see, any acknowledgement that anything but the dominant culture exists is SJW shit. Unamerican commie propaganda that should be illegal.
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Old 2018-05-01, 08:41   Link #155
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No, see, any acknowledgement that anything but the dominant culture exists is SJW shit. Unamerican commie propaganda that should be illegal.
Wow. Seriously, no. That's seriously not "SJW". Anymore than saying any criticism/questioning of anyone claiming harassment and prejudice is far-right bigotry. And this show too is not SJW, considering that, whether Ainu are oppressed now or not, at the time they were suffering from legal sanctions, as mentioned in the story. Not to mention that Sugimoto is not being declared in any way wrong on account of having ethnic connections to their current and/or historic oppressors, or for his opinions and ignorance of their culture, or his attempts to respect them by participating in some of their traditions. But seriously, I'd prefer to not talk about that crap here. I'm her to discuss an anime that addresses a period of political and economic turmoil for everyone, not to turn it into an argument between one group of political idiots and another, neither of whom can understand the concept of a middle ground.
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Old 2018-05-01, 08:58   Link #156
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Wow. Seriously, no. That's seriously not "SJW".
Then what do you think "SJW" means? Who the hell even uses the term, and does it ever mean anything but "some minority is portrayed positively (or at all), I'm not used to it and I don't like it"?

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Old 2018-05-01, 09:07   Link #157
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^Problem is it's usually at the expense of the majority

This anime bears resemblance to that movie "Wind River"

Good movie, but unreasonably harsh on the majority

This cooking anime is not on that level
It's just Sugimoto easily impressed by freaking anything
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Old 2018-05-01, 09:34   Link #158
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Please don’t feed the troll.
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Old 2018-05-01, 10:42   Link #159
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This show so far has nothing to do with a majority vs minority conflict. it's not even portraying the Japanese as bad, at least not on whole so I don't know what SJW (which is ridiculous term anyway) has to do with it.
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Old 2018-05-01, 10:50   Link #160
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Nice episode. No wonder Sugimoto keeps calling himself immortal. He could have died a lot so far. Still, I wonder what's with the big focus on cooking. Is this Shokugeki no Abirspa?
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