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View Poll Results: Danganronpa 3: Future Arc - Episode 10 Rating
Perfect 10 1 14.29%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 2 28.57%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 2 28.57%
7 out of 10 : Good 0 0%
6 out of 10 : Average 1 14.29%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 0 0%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 14.29%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2016-09-12, 16:09   Link #21
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I would point out that we actually still don't know if Hiro is counted on that counter (and I would assume he is until conclusively proven otherwise) -- if he is, that would mean it's counting Makoto, Munakata, Hina, Mitarai, Hiro, and one more.
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Old 2016-09-12, 16:57   Link #22
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Wow...so now what?

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Look like Chisa has become just another red herring??? It would be anti-climax and made what Naegi said to Munakata pointless if it is her.
How would Munataka trying to bring Chisa back to normal if it was her be pointless?

The way it appears to me the brainwashing worked on her pretty much half heartedly. Mabe she developed a 2nd personality or is aware of what she does while still being sorry about it.

OR she is just a good actress and no longer gives a damn after the brainwashing
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Old 2016-09-12, 17:11   Link #23
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Not want to sound captain obvious, but...

While Tengan worded it in a way that throws anyone of us out, he actually answered Munakata's question with the truth. He actually told him who was the killer.

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Wow...so now what?

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Look like Chisa has become just another red herring??? It would be anti-climax and made what Naegi said to Munakata pointless if it is her.
Dude, have you even been paying attention?

Munakata didn't know Chisa had become a despair. Why do you think he had that shock in his face when Tengan told him? Why do you think he was despairing on that table while holding on those photos he had found? Why do you think he said "when did that happen". He didn't know anything, and that's why he stabbed Juzo, who wanted to confess his guilt for not telling him.

The Chisa Munakata knew ceased to be her long ago. This is why the last shot shows current Chisa changing back to the appearance she had in the Despair arc, the time she was the upbeat and sweet woman Munakata knew. That Chisa no longer exists. The realization broke Munakata with good reason.
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Old 2016-09-12, 18:27   Link #24
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Dude, have you even been paying attention?

Munakata didn't know Chisa had become a despair. Why do you think he had that shock in his face when Tengan told him? Why do you think he was despairing on that table while holding on those photos he had found? Why do you think he said "when did that happen". He didn't know anything, and that's why he stabbed Juzo, who wanted to confess his guilt for not telling him.

The Chisa Munakata knew ceased to be her long ago. This is why the last shot shows current Chisa changing back to the appearance she had in the Despair arc, the time she was the upbeat and sweet woman Munakata knew. That Chisa no longer exists. The realization broke Munakata with good reason.
Well, yes Munakata knew Chisa had become a despair from what Tengan told him and with photos he had found. What was wrong about what I said?
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Old 2016-09-12, 18:33   Link #25
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Well, yes Munakata knew Chisa had become a despair from what Tengan told him and with photos he had found. What was wrong about what I said?
Because you worded it in a way that sounded like you were saying Munakata knew Chisa had become a despair way before this whole thing, which is not true.

Instead what you should be asking yourself is if those photos were always there. Kirigiri examined the body way before Munakata returned there. Plus Asahina realized who was the killer by looking at the anotations Kirigiri had written in her notebook. Anotations that contain info about the NG... and the victims murdered by the killer.

I can already see how's this game going to end. The fact the episode ended with Asahina about to drop the bomb and with 2 episodes still left means we are in for more surprises.
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Old 2016-09-12, 19:27   Link #26
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If the true cultprit is Nagito, then it wouldn't be that surprising.
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Old 2016-09-12, 19:36   Link #27
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Guys, how about we try to remember where the murdered guards were found.

In the WOMEN washroom.
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Old 2016-09-12, 19:50   Link #28
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Looks like the ships were leaving Jabberwock Island.

So whether Hinata/Izuru go it alone or with Class 77, or everyone on the ships got mind-wiped and replaced with Junko's personality....
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Old 2016-09-12, 19:58   Link #29
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Guys, how about we try to remember where the murdered guards were found.

In the WOMEN washroom.
I mean -- while I do think Chisa is the mastermind and killed those guards, I find the idea of someone who would kill dozens of people but draw the line at entering an opposite gender washroom to maybe not be massively compelling.

EDIT: On an unrelated note, I watched Tengan's answer to Munakata again, and it's -- interesting? You can take it in one of two ways, I think. Either:

a) He's being literal (or to put it another way, he's using the context-specific form of 'attacker' as 'person designated as the murderer by the game') and saying that something has happened to them which compels them all to commit murder. Given that Monokuma appeared to them via an animation (and has strangely not been seen again), and we know that both Chisa and Mitarai are aware of how Mitarai's animations can be used to brainwash people, this is not necessarily all that implausible.

Or b) He's being figurative (or to put it another way, he's using the broader form of 'attacker' as 'one who attacks'), and saying that everybody in the game has the capacity for violence against the others -- which is provably true. In this interpretation of his answer, he isn't lying (his statement is true, after all, it's just not an answer to the question Munakata asked -- Tengan's NG is 'answer a question with a lie', but all that means is that he must answer a question with a true statement. If somebody asked 'What's the weather like outside?' and he replied 'Munakata has white hair,' he'd still be obeying his NG), but he's being intentionally misleading, functionally subverting Munakata's question both to make a point and as an excuse to set him on the path to finding out about Chisa.

In which case, the question really becomes why he would do that. Tengan is not obliged to only tell the truth when asked, after all, so if he really wanted Munakata to know that about Chisa, he could have told him any time, so it stands to reason that he's using that information to deliberately send Munakata down a particular path, and to cut off a line of questioning that might force him to reveal something he doesn't want Munakata to know.
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Old 2016-09-12, 20:27   Link #30
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Tengan was obviously talking figuratively. Afterall, this is what the whole game is all about: mutual killing.

But... at the same time, and probably without being that what he intended, he actually answered to Munakata's question with the truth.

Asahina, yes, Asahina, who is no dumb but also not the smarterst, figured out all by herself the idenity of the killer just by looking at Kirigiri's notebook.

This means whatever it contains, it has to be something ONLY Asahina would be able to figure out.
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Old 2016-09-12, 21:05   Link #31
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Well, if Tengen believes there's more than 1 attacker, it's not a lie even if it is not correct.
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Old 2016-09-12, 21:49   Link #32
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Chiaki's future in the Despair arc is looking really grim.
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Old 2016-09-12, 21:49   Link #33
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The guards were obviously murdered by Monaca because Gekkogahara was murdered in the same way (broken necks).
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Old 2016-09-13, 01:36   Link #34
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Guys, how about we try to remember where the murdered guards were found.

In the WOMEN washroom.
That doesn't necessarily mean their killer was a woman. A man could leave them there to shift suspicion away from himself. Although Chisa was probably strong enough to twist their necks like that. Or Gekkobot.

Now, what to say about the episode? I don't think Kirigiri will wake up, but I'm also sure the bottle will play some role, and soon. If it's not the antidote for the bracelet poison, what could be inside it? One thing that comes to mind is a drug that prevents you from falling asleep. Basically, there will be another sleeping time interval, but someone will take this drug, stay awake and try to stop the attacker. If they succeed and nobody dies, it's game over and they win. Shouldn't be too hard with so few people left.

But that still leaves the question of who caused this entire mess, and for what purpose. Was it Chisa? Was it Tengan who knew about Chisa's despair, but did nothing to stop her? Or maybe someone else entirely? The number of survivors doesn't match the number of people we see, after all.
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Old 2016-09-13, 01:51   Link #35
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Maybe instead of a counteragent to the poison, she took a counteragent to the sleeping drug?
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Old 2016-09-13, 02:24   Link #36
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Maybe instead of a counteragent to the poison, she took a counteragent to the sleeping drug?
If you're talking about Kyoko then that's pointless. Taking a drug to counteract the sleeping agent wouldn't stop her from being poisoned, meaning she'd die anyway and wouldn't wake up regardless. Unless you're talking about having that drug by mistake instead of the antidote because she couldn't tell the difference from the bottles being labelled the same or something. In which case things still end up the same way.
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Old 2016-09-13, 02:52   Link #37
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Anyone that knows Kirigiri should know better. That she isn't the type who would wait patiently and allow herself to die and not think out a plan.

Besides, this game isn't like the previous ones. Figuring out who is the killer isn't going to end it. Because the killer never intended to play fair.

The fake secret trollish door and the fact they are deep underground, in the ocean no less, shows what the killer's real intentions are:

That no one is to make it out of this facility alive.

This level of cruelty is far beyond anything Junko did in the past. Leaving false hope and rejoycing in everybody helplessness, that is something a true Remnant of Despair would come up with.
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Old 2016-09-13, 07:32   Link #38
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Tengan was obviously talking figuratively. Afterall, this is what the whole game is all about: mutual killing.

But... at the same time, and probably without being that what he intended, he actually answered to Munakata's question with the truth.

Asahina, yes, Asahina, who is no dumb but also not the smarterst, figured out all by herself the idenity of the killer just by looking at Kirigiri's notebook.

This means whatever it contains, it has to be something ONLY Asahina would be able to figure out.
OR the notebook states the attacker's identity straight out without beating any bushes.
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OR the notebook states the attacker's identity straight out without beating any bushes.
It wouldn't have taken her this long to get to Naegi, if that were the case. Besides, this is not how cases are solved out, there ought to be a long explanation first.

But it doesn't matter either way, because with 2 episodes to go there's going to be a twist for sure.

And as I said above, identifying the killer isn't going to end the game this time around. Because that person planned out to kill everybody from the very beggining. They are not trapped in the school, or a virtual resort. They are trapped deep underground and in the ocean.
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Old 2016-09-13, 12:20   Link #40
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I have another theory as to what Tengan referred to:

It is a common setting in anime that being around talented people is rather despairing for non-talented hard working people who just can't beat them despite working way harder towards their goal then said taleneted people.

If you take it that way - each one of them is indeed deapair rather than hope. And if we think about it too - the main course is always portrayed colorful whie the reserve course is being portrayed dull, grey and colorless as if there was no hope there to begin with.
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