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Old 2018-07-19, 08:54   Link #4421
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Did I ever make an argument that sounds like "Only things that I like is worthy of deep analysis!" in this thread? If so then please point it out to me.

To demonstrate that theory, let's pick up a couple titles from my recommendations above: Haibane Renmei & Texhnolyze.
I'm not very big on Haibane. It was never one of my favorite shows. As for Texhnolyze, you can even say that I dislike it. But those shows have the intelligence and richness that I can't argue regardless of my feelings of them.
I think you misunderstand a little where I'm coming from. I just heard you say 1) You don't like the show and 2) Wished he analyzed other shows instead of this one. I am sorry if the conclusion I drew from this was in error.

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He could use some more intelligent shows with rich themes and nuances. Shows like Monster, Shin Sekai Yori, Haibane Renmei, Serial Experiments Lain, Texhnolyze, etc. Those shows actually deserve to get deeper analyses because they are so rich and, dare I say, unique & original in some parts.
See, you say you wat him to use "more intelligent shows", which I took to mean that shows you like are "intelligent" and this one is not, and therefore not worthy of being analyzed. Therefore I'm arguing that just because you don't like a show doesn't mean no one should analyze it.

I'm sorry if I misunderstand what you meant. But this is what happens when people use objective qualifiers to state something subjective. I get confused.
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Old 2018-07-19, 09:13   Link #4422
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Honest opinion here

- Before the VIRM reveal, this anime was great
- After VIRM, there are good moments, but the space events were just terrible
- I don't like Gigguk's videos because they have deep analysis, but because they are funny and entertaining
- For deep videos I go to Nearly On Red or wisecrack (have you guys watched the Evangelion video, it was awesome)

Btw, Gigguk doesn't like Franxx but he did consider 02 best girl of the season so it kinda offset each other
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Old 2018-07-19, 09:29   Link #4423
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I think you misunderstand a little where I'm coming from. I just heard you say 1) You don't like the show and 2) Wished he analyzed other shows instead of this one. I am sorry if the conclusion I drew from this was in error.

See, you say you wat him to use "more intelligent shows", which I took to mean that shows you like are "intelligent" and this one is not, and therefore not worthy of being analyzed. Therefore I'm arguing that just because you don't like a show doesn't mean no one should analyze it.

I'm sorry if I misunderstand what you meant.
It's actually pretty simple:
  • I don't like every intelligent, nuanced and rich shows out there. I already gave you Haibane Renmei & Texhnolyze as examples of such shows that I'm not a fan of. But due to their rich, intelligent, artful and strong content, I think they still deserve deeper analyses regardless of my enthusiasm of those shows. That's something that I think FranXX lacks of.
  • I don't hate FranXX. Do I have to repeat that each time I post a comment in this thread? I think it's a passable mecha time-waster. There's no question that there are much worse mecha shows out there, but excuse me if I don't sing the gospel of FranXX because I think it's just...okay. Not great but not awful either. A perfectly entertaining mediocre show. Surely you can do a lot worse than that.

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But this is what happens when people use objective qualifiers to state something subjective. I get confused.
I guess you did not catch the first words that I said when I started my suggestion about what he should review next:
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I honestly think........
So yeah, this is all what I think. I never force anyone to agree with me. I'm just voicing my impression of things here.
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Old 2018-07-19, 10:27   Link #4424
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Some of you guys really enjoy arguing, huh?
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Old 2018-07-19, 14:18   Link #4425
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Old 2018-07-20, 10:20   Link #4426
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Some of you guys really enjoy arguing, huh?
I'm... Not sure what you mean by that. Is there something wrong with having an honest discussion? And explaining yourself when you're misunderstood.. And asking for an explanation when you don't understand something?

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It's actually pretty simple:
  • I don't like every intelligent, nuanced and rich shows out there. I already gave you Haibane Renmei & Texhnolyze as examples of such shows that I'm not a fan of. But due to their rich, intelligent, artful and strong content, I think they still deserve deeper analyses regardless of my enthusiasm of those shows. That's something that I think FranXX lacks of.
  • I don't hate FranXX. Do I have to repeat that each time I post a comment in this thread? I think it's a passable mecha time-waster. There's no question that there are much worse mecha shows out there, but excuse me if I don't sing the gospel of FranXX because I think it's just...okay. Not great but not awful either. A perfectly entertaining mediocre show. Surely you can do a lot worse than that.

I guess you did not catch the first words that I said when I started my suggestion about what he should review next:
So yeah, this is all what I think. I never force anyone to agree with me. I'm just voicing my impression of things here.
Other than the fact that I don't recall saying you hated it, nor do I recall saying I felt forced to agree, I think I have a bit of a handle of what you were saying. You don't think he shouldn't have done such an extensive analysis on this show, you are just interested in what he has to say about some other shows. I'm sorry for not understanding right away.
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Old 2018-07-20, 10:22   Link #4427
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I guess the series jump the shark at the Virm revealed and gave us a open ending.
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Old 2018-07-20, 11:34   Link #4428
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Other than the fact that I don't recall saying you hated it,
You said I dislike it. Dislike, hate, not fond of, same difference. Rather than dislike or hate, my feeling is rather mixed, meh, or so-so about it.

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nor do I recall saying I felt forced to agree
Not exactly referring to you, but to those reading this thread who feel insecure about my negative comments about FranXX to the point where they want me to stress that it's all just my opinion. And believe me, they exists.

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I think I have a bit of a handle of what you were saying. You don't think he shouldn't have done such an extensive analysis on this show, you are just interested in what he has to say about some other shows. I'm sorry for not understanding right away.
That's pretty much it. I think some shows deserve to get deep and thorough analyses more than some others. It has nothing to do with whether I like them or not.
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Old 2018-07-20, 12:31   Link #4429
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going a "little off", here from him a video where he is asking what shows he must talk now:
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Old Yesterday, 13:48   Link #4430
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Mmmm.... Mother's Basement did a video. Watch at your own risk:

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Old Yesterday, 15:55   Link #4431
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Its such a shame. I really loved this show up to ep 15. Sigh.
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Old Yesterday, 17:11   Link #4432
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Nothing wrong with that video. I don't entirely agree with what he's saying but he's being completely fair.
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Old Yesterday, 19:13   Link #4433
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Mmmm.... Mother's Basement did a video. Watch at your own risk:
I agreed with much of what he had to say.

I can't imagine investing all that time reviewing an anime, but he's good at what he does. I''m curious to see what other shows he has reviewed.
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