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dasvik · 2013-04-25, 16:33

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Originally Posted by Sumeragi

We can always hope.

Yes, you can hope, but where I live there's a saying... "hope's a bi***, everyone lives with it"

That being said, in this case it's prolly good to hope, but it's bad to hype it because of a "new anime" announcement. There are dozens of new animes every year, and for the last... 8 years (damn, that much already?) none of them has been FMP.

Still, Gatoh said that if it will ever be decided that there won't be another season of FMP, he will tell us. Until then... there is hope (which, like I said, it's a bi*** :P

).

yellowscarves · 2013-04-25, 17:02

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Originally Posted by dasvik

Yes, you can hope, but where I live there's a saying... "hope's a bi***, everyone lives with it"

That being said, in this case it's prolly good to hope, but it's bad to hype it because of a "new anime" announcement. There are dozens of new animes every year, and for the last... 8 years (damn, that much already?) none of them has been FMP.

Still, Gatoh said that if it will ever be decided that there won't be another season of FMP, he will tell us. Until then... there is hope (which, like I said, it's a bi*** :P

).

If they didn't release the silhouettes and just told us they were going to announce something new, there probably wouldn't be as much hype. You see what you want to see, and I really don't know if I'm delusional at point for seeing AS armour and Sousuke on the right. The art style change may be because the art person who guided the animators in Gonzo's and KyoAni's FMP didn't come back and the KyoAni staff wanted to do it a little differently.

tomboy8888 · 2013-04-25, 17:53

Has anyone with some art education taken those silouettes and seen what they could do with them? I have, and I now have an OK image of Sosuke and Kanami. I'm not gonna post it, cause it is based off my imagination of what the outlines look like to me, and I really don't want to get everyones hopes up too high. And yeah, it is rather sketchy, as all I had was my laptop to do it on.

Ah, well, sometimes it's good to hope.

yellowscarves · 2013-04-25, 18:17

^ Would you post it tomorrow, after the big announcement? I'm really interested in what your imagination came up with.

Wild Goose · 2013-04-25, 19:24

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Originally Posted by GenjiChan

You're not a FMP fan are you?

I am an FMP fan.

I have also, in the years since 2005, been exposed to Warhammer 40,000, particularly Dawn of War, and remember the Blood Angels Librarian's quote: "Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment."

After almost 8 years of being trolled by KyoAni, I no longer have any hope.

At least with Kouki you know in advance he's going to troll you, and Urobutcher likewise.

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Originally Posted by SkoolRumble4Ya

I won't give up until the author himself said it's over.

Technically, it is over, given that the author finished off the light novels several years back.

FeistyDreams · 2013-04-25, 19:57

Gatoh has said in the past that no news is good news, pretty much. I think it was a couple years ago now when he said that there was no anime being worked on BUT that it wasn't a lost cause, and that (at the time) if we heard nothing on the subject, then that meant it was still a possibility. Since we've never heard it's dead, then yes, there is still officially hope, by his words. I think that's what SkoolRumble4Ya was referring to, about not giving up until Gatoh says it's 'over.'

(And technically, no, no it's not over, there's the sequel. Gatoh might not be writing it, but he is working it. FMP is still alive XD)

tomboy8888 · 2013-04-25, 21:41

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Originally Posted by yellowscarves

^ Would you post it tomorrow, after the big announcement? I'm really interested in what your imagination came up with.

I might... when I say sketchy, I mean it - I had to fight my computer's itty-bitty touch pad to do the sketching... might have done better if I had a mouse, but computer art is not my forte.

I'm truly surprised no one else seems to have done this - some certainties of form can certainly be extrapulated, even if from silouettes. They do seem to be human characters, so much can be assumed. Ah, well...

dasvik · 2013-04-26, 07:11

Ok, less than 1 hour remaining... until total excitement and a delirious mood, or a return to the day-by-day routine, in which nothing FMP-related happens.

FeistyDreams · 2013-04-26, 08:04

It's swimming anime (called "Free") ...I give up. Did they have time to come up with real story and characters? I don't think the fujoshi are really winning here, but whatever. Well, then again, maybe they are, if all they want is eye candy and no substance.

dasvik · 2013-04-26, 09:45

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Originally Posted by FeistyDreams

It's swimming anime (called "Free") ...I give up. Did they have time to come up with real story and characters? I don't think the fujoshi are really winning here, but whatever. Well, then again, maybe they are, if all they want is eye candy and no substance.

Swimming anime... What the world has come to...

yellowscarves · 2013-04-26, 11:54

It would be neat if "Free" actually focused on the technical side of swimming, with swimming competitions - like an actual sports anime. The PV seems to suggests otherwise though.

FeistyDreams · 2013-04-26, 12:08

I have a lot of not-nice things to say on the subject, but I think I'll keep at as this:

I hope the people that wanted it don't care that they took no time at all in developing story and characters.

I would have preferred that KyoAni announce they were only doing moe from now on than this, because even if all of it is shameless pandering, at least more than a month of thought and effort is put into those. I do hope I'm wrong on that, but it's how it feels.

Sumeragi · 2013-04-26, 12:20

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Originally Posted by FeistyDreams

I hope the people that wanted it don't care that they took no time at all in developing story and characters.

You realize how stupid that statement is?

FeistyDreams · 2013-04-26, 12:24

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Originally Posted by Sumeragi

You realize how stupid that statement is?

Care to explain how? Now, granted, I left it very short and vague because I didn't really want to go into the full rant, so I understand it probably didn't get the full point across.

The not-as-short-version: The CM that came out, what, a MONTH ago?, was purely a "Look what our animation studio can do." It wasn't a story. There was nothing to it. The crowd went wild, and now suddenly there's an anime for it. It was NEVER a PV. So that makes it look like they scrambled together a team and BSed a story to rush it out while the hype was still hot to make a quick buck. I realize they're a business and money making is kind of the point, but it feels like they don't care about integrity anymore. How can you put out a quality product with that kind of rush?

Sumeragi · 2013-04-26, 12:30

Why your statement was stupid: Studios don't work like that. Everything had been planned from the start. Just because you don't see the actual work does not mean Kyoani was not doing anything.

Seriously, I would think someone like you would know how things work by your age.

FeistyDreams · 2013-04-26, 12:41

Everything about it feels and looks rushed. Even if it had been a preview, it's changed some style and character designs. What about that makes it look as though it really was planned out the whole time? It sure does seem weird that it would get rushed, and hardly seems possible, but I've seen stranger things. I did also say that I truly hope it's NOT the case, but that's how it's being presented. I'm also being whinier than I usually would be right now, and shouldn't have bothered to say anything in the first place. When I look at it a few days from now when I'm feeling better, I'll probably agree completely that it was a stupid statement. I should know better than to go on forums when I'm sick, but that seems to be when I go on them the most, and say stupid things.

I do truly hope that the people who were looking forward to it DO like it. I like KyoAni, even if I've been disappointed lately, and while I may not agree with the presentation of this project, I hope they have success. I also really hope I'm proven wrong and that there's a real story and the characters aren't flat, because I would really hate for something like that to see high success when things more deserving (not talking about just FMP here, but of course I'd be lying if I said it wasn't included) don't. Although, it's been rather proven these days in all sorts of media that pandering sells and something that makes you think rarely does. There are the exceptions, and those make me unbelievably happy, but I'm disappointed with media on the whole these days, and I'm probably taking it out on KyoAni right now.

Sumeragi · 2013-04-26, 12:42

*Shrugs*

I'll let you be then.

Wild Goose · 2013-04-30, 23:12

Like I said, Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.

I figure if we get FMP by the end of this decade, it'll be a miracle. Or maybe they're saving it for an anime.

Still, I believe that one day, no matter the setbacks, we will eventually see an animated conclusion to Full Metal Panic.

For I have faith, and that is enough.

FeistyDreams · 2013-05-01, 23:09

Hey hey, that poll Baka-Tsuki had about what to translate next, the winner WAS FMP!Another, right? I didn't remember that wrong because of my strong desire?

I ask, because the translator in question, Teh_ping, said that the winner from that poll will start being posted in August, and if I do remember right, then that means we'll get to read translations for it!

EDIT: It might be a different poll, but I'mma leave this here anyways, and stop posting things right before bed. Gah. Someone kick me off the internet after 8pm, I can't be trusted.

MisterBaka · 2013-05-03, 09:34

Soooo, looks like I have to start drinking now on my country's May holidays and sober up by August? Not gonna be easy seeing how I don't drink. But what else is there to do?!
I really can't wait for translations of Another.

2013-04-25, 17:53	Link #7063
tomboy8888 Bloody Vampire Lover Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: In front of my moniter, surrounded by books...	Has anyone with some art education taken those silouettes and seen what they could do with them? I have, and I now have an OK image of Sosuke and Kanami. I'm not gonna post it, cause it is based off my imagination of what the outlines look like to me, and I really don't want to get everyones hopes up too high. And yeah, it is rather sketchy, as all I had was my laptop to do it on. Ah, well, sometimes it's good to hope. __________________ Managing multiple obsessions can make a person CRAZY!!!

2013-04-25, 19:57	Link #7066
FeistyDreams Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA Age: 37	Gatoh has said in the past that no news is good news, pretty much. I think it was a couple years ago now when he said that there was no anime being worked on BUT that it wasn't a lost cause, and that (at the time) if we heard nothing on the subject, then that meant it was still a possibility. Since we've never heard it's dead, then yes, there is still officially hope, by his words. I think that's what SkoolRumble4Ya was referring to, about not giving up until Gatoh says it's 'over.' (And technically, no, no it's not over, there's the sequel. Gatoh might not be writing it, but he is working it. FMP is still alive XD) __________________ \|\| Where to find me \|\|

2013-04-26, 08:04	Link #7069
FeistyDreams Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA Age: 37	It's swimming anime (called "Free") ...I give up. Did they have time to come up with real story and characters? I don't think the fujoshi are really winning here, but whatever. Well, then again, maybe they are, if all they want is eye candy and no substance. __________________ \|\| Where to find me \|\|

2013-04-26, 11:54	Link #7071
yellowscarves Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	It would be neat if "Free" actually focused on the technical side of swimming, with swimming competitions - like an actual sports anime. The PV seems to suggests otherwise though. Last edited by yellowscarves; 2013-04-26 at 12:20.

2013-04-26, 12:08	Link #7072
FeistyDreams Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA Age: 37	I have a lot of not-nice things to say on the subject, but I think I'll keep at as this: I hope the people that wanted it don't care that they took no time at all in developing story and characters. I would have preferred that KyoAni announce they were only doing moe from now on than this, because even if all of it is shameless pandering, at least more than a month of thought and effort is put into those. I do hope I'm wrong on that, but it's how it feels. __________________ \|\| Where to find me \|\| Last edited by FeistyDreams; 2013-04-26 at 12:11. Reason: typo

2013-04-25, 18:17	Link #7064
yellowscarves Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010	^ Would you post it tomorrow, after the big announcement? I'm really interested in what your imagination came up with.

2013-04-26, 07:11	Link #7068
dasvik Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Romania	Ok, less than 1 hour remaining... until total excitement and a delirious mood, or a return to the day-by-day routine, in which nothing FMP-related happens.

2013-04-26, 12:30	Link #7075
Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	Why your statement was stupid: Studios don't work like that. Everything had been planned from the start. Just because you don't see the actual work does not mean Kyoani was not doing anything. Seriously, I would think someone like you would know how things work by your age.

2013-04-26, 12:41	Link #7076
FeistyDreams Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA Age: 37	Everything about it feels and looks rushed. Even if it had been a preview, it's changed some style and character designs. What about that makes it look as though it really was planned out the whole time? It sure does seem weird that it would get rushed, and hardly seems possible, but I've seen stranger things. I did also say that I truly hope it's NOT the case, but that's how it's being presented. I'm also being whinier than I usually would be right now, and shouldn't have bothered to say anything in the first place. When I look at it a few days from now when I'm feeling better, I'll probably agree completely that it was a stupid statement. I should know better than to go on forums when I'm sick, but that seems to be when I go on them the most, and say stupid things. I do truly hope that the people who were looking forward to it DO like it. I like KyoAni, even if I've been disappointed lately, and while I may not agree with the presentation of this project, I hope they have success. I also really hope I'm proven wrong and that there's a real story and the characters aren't flat, because I would really hate for something like that to see high success when things more deserving (not talking about just FMP here, but of course I'd be lying if I said it wasn't included) don't. Although, it's been rather proven these days in all sorts of media that pandering sells and something that makes you think rarely does. There are the exceptions, and those make me unbelievably happy, but I'm disappointed with media on the whole these days, and I'm probably taking it out on KyoAni right now. __________________ \|\| Where to find me \|\|

2013-04-26, 12:42	Link #7077
Sumeragi Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dai Korai Teikoku	Shrugs I'll let you be then.

2013-04-30, 23:12	Link #7078
Wild Goose Truth Martyr Author Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Doing Anzu's paperwork. Age: 38	Like I said, Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment. I figure if we get FMP by the end of this decade, it'll be a miracle. Or maybe they're saving it for an anime. Still, I believe that one day, no matter the setbacks, we will eventually see an animated conclusion to Full Metal Panic. For I have faith, and that is enough. __________________ One must forgive one's enemies, but not before they are hanged.Heinrich Heine. *I believe in miracles.* Order of Freelance Mages (Goose's Nanoha OC Project)

2013-05-01, 23:09	Link #7079
FeistyDreams Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Vancouver, WA Age: 37	Hey hey, that poll Baka-Tsuki had about what to translate next, the winner WAS FMP!Another, right? I didn't remember that wrong because of my strong desire? I ask, because the translator in question, Teh_ping, said that the winner from that poll will start being posted in August, and if I do remember right, then that means we'll get to read translations for it! EDIT: It might be a different poll, but I'mma leave this here anyways, and stop posting things right before bed. Gah. Someone kick me off the internet after 8pm, I can't be trusted. __________________ \|\| Where to find me \|\| Last edited by FeistyDreams; 2013-05-01 at 23:26. Reason: OTL wrote wrong translator i am fail

2013-05-03, 09:34	Link #7080
MisterBaka Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: The red hills of Russia	Soooo, looks like I have to start drinking now on my country's May holidays and sober up by August? Not gonna be easy seeing how I don't drink. But what else is there to do?! I really can't wait for translations of Another.