Shin High School DxD Volume 2 Discussion

[Parry999]

Originally Posted by godz

he died :v

This was before we learned how serious outrage was though. Which it be logical to believe he and Albion never did go into an outrage.

[godz]

Originally Posted by Parry999

This was before we learned how serious outrage was though. Which it be logical to believe he and Albion never did go into an outrage.

this part of the novel was explained by ddraig, so nobody better than he knows the feelings that he felt when he saw his diversion ruined by the army of the three factions ... not to mention that the anger of the dragons is not a secret that only they know dragons, as this volume 18 dialogue shows.

That one thing was enough to make the Golden Dragon King “Outrage”. I recalled the words that my teacher once said. — we must not offend the dragons, such a phrase has been used since ancient times — “Outrage”, what is it? Even a low level dragon, if offended, would make you understand the meaning of "Outrage". Dragons are creatures that should not be angered. A dragon’s “Outrage”. Rizevim is experiencing it. Fafnir’s anger.

[The Infinite Dream]

Being outraged and being mad are two different things though. Being outraged is taking mad to a different level. Not to mention they were already fighting so who know what would have happened if bothsides were fresh.

[godz]

Originally Posted by The Infinite Dream

Being outraged and being mad are two different things though. Being outraged is taking mad to a different level.

That one thing was enough to make the Golden Dragon King “Outrage”. I recalled the words that my teacher once said. — we must not offend the dragons, such a phrase has been used since ancient times — “Outrage”, what is it? Even a low level dragon, if offended, would make you understand the meaning of "Outrage". Dragons are creatures that should not be angered. A dragon’s “Outrage”. Rizevim is experiencing it. Fafnir’s anger.

it emphasizes in black what is important, if you do not believe me and to finish this idea you can go by yourself to visit the volumes 3,4 and 18.

[The Infinite Dream]

Again outraged and mad are two different things that is literally the only thing im pointing out.

[Parry999]

Ddraig even said it himself he could cause severe damage to the whole world by himself. Without even being outraged.

[godz]

Originally Posted by Parry999

Ddraig even said it himself he could cause severe damage to the whole world by himself. Without even being outraged.

I think that it can be done by several characters in dxd without being at the level of ddraig, such as the top 10 as typhon or those youkai named in slash dog capable of wiping out Japan in an instant.

and as the novel's quotation shows, outraged as angry they have the same meaning ... if there is a quote that shows that they express themselves differently they can bring it.

[The Infinite Dream]

No they dont have the same meaning. Outrage is always taking mad to an extreme.

[godz]

Originally Posted by The Infinite Dream

No they dont have the same meaning. Outrage is always taking mad to an extreme.

a quote from the novel that shows your point?

[The Infinite Dream]

Qoute or definition where they actually mean the samething? Does it say they went into outrage mode? All it says is they got mad and fought against the 3 factions nothing about them entering an outrage mode or them being outraged

I can be mad without being outraged.

[Parry999]

Vali hated his Grandfather not once did he outrage and get 10 times stronger like how Issei surpassed BxB Vali in volume 4.

[godz]

Originally Posted by The Infinite Dream

Qoute or definition where they actually mean the samething?

I can be mad without being outraged.

a good point, now let's take the situation of the novel, in specific Ddraig and how the three fractions ruined not only their fun but that "killed"

Originally Posted by Parry999

Vali hated his Grandfather never once did he outrage and get 10 times stronger like how Issei surpassed BxB Vali in volume 4.

those were the user's feelings and how the sacred gear reacted to this, not to mention that the main skill of the boosted gear was to duplicate the power of the user.

[cyberdemon]

Originally Posted by Parry999

This was before we learned how serious outrage was though. Which it be logical to believe he and Albion never did go into an outrage.

They were up against armies. Armies that probably equipped all sorts of dragons slayer equipment. Plus we know the kind of abilities GotB was capable of. Fafnir became powerful but his outrage more inflicted mental damage than just physical damage.

[Parry999]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

They were up against armies. Armies that probably equipped all sorts of dragons slayer equipment. Plus we know the kind of abilities GotB was capable of. Fafnir became powerful but his outrage more inflicted mental damage than just physical damage.

Fafnir ripped off Risevim arm and injured Crom. He does inflicted physical damage in outrage mode.

[Lucidrago]

Originally Posted by cyberdemon

They were up against armies. Armies that probably equipped all sorts of dragons slayer equipment. Plus we know the kind of abilities GotB was capable of. Fafnir became powerful but his outrage more inflicted mental damage than just physical damage.

For all we know they got destroyed in an instant by the Three Factions. It never said there was a long drawn-out battle.

[vietthai96]

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

For all we know they got destroyed in an instant by the Three Factions. It never said there was a long drawn-out battle.

Nothing indicated that they got one-shot the moment they start fighting allied three factions, well we don't know what exactly happen

[kiiro94]

Originally Posted by Hakai

Am i the only one who expects Ishibumi to not care about the 4 Maous combined statement and make Indra at least Heavenly Dragon level or even stronger?

Mmm well you dont know the power scaling here in DxD then.

Above Maou tier, it is God Tier.

A devil above Maou tier can be considered Super Devil or God Tier.
From Maou tier to 2x Maou Tier is God Tier.

From 2x Maou Tier too 3x Maou Tier is High God Tier.

From 3x to 4x Maou Tier, it is Chief God Tier.

Above 4x Maou, it is Heavenly tier which is the place where Indra the heavenly god, Heavenly dragons belong.

Originally Posted by XFire

If Sirzechs wasnt using his true form and Ajuka wasnt serious? Absolutely.

Issei beat down Elucid, who was their equal, in CxC. While Elucid was wearing a Sacred Gear that took Issei from "peeling fruit" to "vaporizing mountains". DxD is obscenely more powerful. He'd crush them all at once.

CxC is just Ultimate Devil Tier Lol. When he fought a real Maou Tier as Belial, he got low diffed.

Euclid was just strong, Issei even said during the second battle that Euclid aura was way weaker than his Sister even though he thinks he on her level lol.

Originally Posted by Lucidrago

For all we know they got destroyed in an instant by the Three Factions. It never said there was a long drawn-out battle.

Instantly? Lol, that is just false.

[Hakai]

Originally Posted by kiiro94

Mmm well you dont know the power scaling here in DxD then.

Above Maou tier, it is God Tier.

A devil above Maou tier can be considered Super Devil or God Tier.
From Maou tier to 2x Maou Tier is God Tier.

From 2x Maou Tier too 3x Maou Tier is High God Tier.

From 3x to 4x Maou Tier, it is Chief God Tier.

Above 4x Maou, it is Heavenly tier which is the place where Indra the heavenly god, Heavenly dragons belong.

LMFAO

Says the guy posting pure headcanons and pretending those are facts.

What's next Dragon God class 100x to 150x maou class

Melvazoa 500-600x maou

[Parry999]

@Hakai Indra was compared to the current maou not the old ones, so he could be way stronger then just times 4 maou. There is plenty of evidence to suggest the Yondai maou where above the orginals. Grayfia was Maou-class before she was a queen after all and is still after words only A rival to Serafall.

Originally Posted by kiiro94

Mmm well you dont know the power scaling here in DxD then.

Above Maou tier, it is God Tier.

A devil above Maou tier can be considered Super Devil or God Tier.
From Maou tier to 2x Maou Tier is God Tier.

From 2x Maou Tier too 3x Maou Tier is High God Tier.

From 3x to 4x Maou Tier, it is Chief God Tier.

Above 4x Maou, it is Heavenly tier which is the place where Indra the heavenly god, Heavenly dragons belong.



CxC is just Ultimate Devil Tier Lol. When he fought a real Maou Tier as Belial, he got low diffed.

Euclid was just strong, Issei even said during the second battle that Euclid aura was way weaker than his Sister even though he thinks he on her level lol.



Instantly? Lol, that is just false.

CxC was confirmed maou class multiple times even just in Shin 1 and it fight Grendel a dragon stronger in durability then dragon kings who several are confirned Maou-class. Hades has two devils who are even state to be above maou-class, but are not super devils yet. Also Belial isn't a normal maou class at all he has physical strength enough to hold down issei before DxD. Which devils usually don't have. He thought Euclid demonic was weaker then Grayfias, however Euclid in base was still strong enough to lead the old maou faction by himself. Which means even without the fake boosted gear his above ultimate-class devils. We also knew he would have been heavenly dragon class with just BxB if he had the real boosted gear. Which Vali as an ultimate-class devil is no where close in his BxB.

[The Infinite Dream]

@Kiiro94

By the way, Ddraig, how strong do you think I am now?

[With that condition, I would say that you can give a Maou-class a good fight. But, if you use ‘that’ form, you can even fight a Transcendental-class. I am sure that these guys didn’t think that they would meet a Devil of this class.]

CxC has already been confirmed maou class.