Mahouka Koukou no Rettousei LN - Archived Discussion

[Quol]

The series is to pragmatic for Tatsuya to die at the end, the way this has been set up it will probably end with him completing his goal to make magicians more economic then military and continue with his mission to protect miyuki. This will probably have an open ending if not a TatsuyaxMiyuki relationship from all the flags the author is tripping

[hakazee]

Originally Posted by Quol

The series is to pragmatic for Tatsuya to die at the end, the way this has been set up it will probably end with him completing his goal to make magicians more economic then military and continue with his mission to protect miyuki. This will probably have an open ending if not a TatsuyaxMiyuki relationship from all the flags the author is tripping

But that also means his god like magic will be secret forever or only a few people know about it.
Since it's impossible for him to have freedom if the world know about his material burst.
Other country will always target him. Even other country know he is very dangerous. They fear one day japan will attackk their country.


In code geass, both lelouch and DAMOCLES were dead and destroyed.
For the sake of world balance and peace.

[Quol]

Originally Posted by hakazee

But that also means his god like magic will be secret forever or only a few people know about it.
Since it's impossible for him to have freedom if the world know about his material burst.
Other country will always target him. Even other country know he is very dangerous. They fear one day japan will attackk their country.


In code geass, both lelouch and DAMOCLES were dead and destroyed.
For the sake of world balance and peace.

To keep his secret they would use a proxy for him called Ooguro Ryuuya which is the "unregistered Strategic-Class Magician of Japan"

But if his identity did get discovered there would not be that many countries that would attack him ether way. Due to diplomatic relationships any act like that would be seen as hostility and give japan a reason to use the weapon they all fear.

Also for code geass let me say this first, that i did love that ending (one of my favorites). But the act of doing that for world peace would only be a temporary measure. Everyone unites under a common enemy and lulu used that for his goal, however once the enemy is gone things will slowly revert back to how they were, the thing you call "world balance and peace" is merely the after effects of an empire falling and people not knowing what to do. Something similar to finishing an anime you just watched and thinking to yourself "what to do now..." untill you decide to go and do something

[hakazee]

Originally Posted by Quol

To keep his secret they would use a proxy for him called Ooguro Ryuuya which is the "unregistered Strategic-Class Magician of Japan"

But if his identity did get discovered there would not be that many countries that would attack him ether way. Due to diplomatic relationships any act like that would be seen as hostility and give japan a reason to use the weapon they all fear.

diplomatic relationship ? fufufufu. that's good if everyone is positive like you.
good for you.


i will give you a good example.
nowadays there is country that build nuclear power plant ? their reason ?
they need the technology for energy and generate electricity.

then other country come, they prevent that country nuclear programme.
they affraid they will attack them one day.
they will try to protect their world domination. no matter what, they must be the strongest.



meeeh. that's it.
it's all about politics.



there are always jealousy, pride, envy, gluttony, lust, .......

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by hakazee

diplomatic relationship ? fufufufu. that's good if everyone is positive like you.
good for you.


i will give you a good example.
nowadays there is country that build nuclear power plant ? their reason ?
they need the technology for energy and generate electricity.

then other country come, they prevent that country nuclear programme.
they affraid they will attack them one day.
they will try to protect their world domination. no matter what, they must be the strongest.



meeeh. that's it.
it's all about politics.



there are always jealousy, pride, envy, gluttony, lust, .......

Which one are talking about? China, Iran, or North Korea?

[malason13]

I think his talking about Iran.

[Waxman]

There is this slight diference, Japan isn't developing a strategic class magic or nurturing a usser for such magic, they already have both at their dispocision (more or less). So the only ones actively acting against Tatsuya will be either the greatest potencies or extremist groups.
Yeah, Machiavelli said that humans are evil unless the situation make them good, and history hasn't disprobed as absolutely as i would have wished, but precisely this dark side its the thing that will keep the balance.
In a world with a population that has droped to a third after de world war 3, and with the usage of nuclear armament banned and magic as the decisive "weapon" in any conflict. Direct actions that will put them as enemies of Japan will only be carried by equally powerfull nation or extremist groups.
UNSA already tried in a "secret" way, and although they were rather conspicuous both UNSA actions and Japan reactions always stoped before a full blow conflict, not because one is afraid of the other but because they need each other.

[Ultragunner]

I just thought of a interesting situation where Mio from the Itsuwa is rendered unavailable (dead, kidnapped, unconsciously hospitalised...etc...). If that happened, then Japan would be forced to come up other detergent measurements, one of which could be the registration of Ooguro Ryuuya (Tatsuya's alias) and his Material Burst. USNA also has Angie Sirius, whose identity (beside rank, ID no.) known to no one (except a few within the organisation. But for Tatsuya, this would also mean more and lots of troubles

[hakazee]

Originally Posted by Waxman

There is this slight diference, Japan isn't developing a strategic class magic or nurturing a usser for such magic, they already have both at their dispocision (more or less). So the only ones actively acting against Tatsuya will be either the greatest potencies or extremist groups.
Yeah, Machiavelli said that humans are evil unless the situation make them good, and history hasn't disprobed as absolutely as i would have wished, but precisely this dark side its the thing that will keep the balance.
In a world with a population that has droped to a third after de world war 3, and with the usage of nuclear armament banned and magic as the decisive "weapon" in any conflict. Direct actions that will put them as enemies of Japan will only be carried by equally powerfull nation or extremist groups.
UNSA already tried in a "secret" way, and although they were rather conspicuous both UNSA actions and Japan reactions always stoped before a full blow conflict, not because one is afraid of the other but because they need each other.

I thought japan and USNA have good relationship between each country.
But then someone say

Originally Posted by blackwhite67

That is only on the surface. The Japanese government knows that the USNA deliberately postponed the mobilization of their forces to assist Japanese in exchange for the spoils the Great Asian Alliance would win from their invasion..

So..... Conspiracy everywhere ?????

[Ultragunner]

It is publicly known that Japan and USNA are allies. However, USNA would benefit if Japan is weakened, yeah politics

[Waxman]

Yeah politics, conspiracy, "indirect" aproachs. while UNSA (and maybe Japan too) may prefer an "friend" a little dependent instead that one who can be its equal, at the end of the day both of them want aboid a war.

[blackwhite67]

Originally Posted by Ultragunner

I just thought of a interesting situation where Mio from the Itsuwa is rendered unavailable (dead, kidnapped, unconsciously hospitalised...etc...). If that happened, then Japan would be forced to come up other detergent measurements, one of which could be the registration of Ooguro Ryuuya (Tatsuya's alias) and his Material Burst. USNA also has Angie Sirius, whose identity (beside rank, ID no.) known to no one (except a few within the organisation. But for Tatsuya, this would also mean more and lots of troubles

I don't think that would be the case. Every other major country with a brain already knows that Japan is hiding another strategic-class magician. So there is nothing to gain by registering Tatsuya as an apostle.

[Waxman]

Actually there is value in having a registered strategic class magician.
In Mayumi sidestory its mentioned that Mio will be deployed along with the forces in as a political move not only military. By anouncing that Japan is sending her to the field bring certain diplomatic adventages, but the (forcibly secret) movements of Tatsuya never will have those effects.

[ReaperxKingx]

Originally Posted by Waxman

Actually there is value in having a registered strategic class magician.
In Mayumi sidestory its mentioned that Mio will be deployed along with the forces in as a political move not only military. By anouncing that Japan is sending her to the field bring certain diplomatic adventages, but the (forcibly secret) movements of Tatsuya never will have those effects.

It could also work in the opposite direction. Having another Strategic Class Magician will bring wariness to other countries who thinks Japan has become to strong. It increases the chance of countries aligning themselves together to fight Japan.

[dragonsense]

looks like this novel have no update in translation for more than half month

[pampz21]

Busy month for people going to school

[NoLife222]

Tatsuya has 2 magic calculation area right? One for the decomposition and restoration of Eidos while the other one is for the simple magic he use in public face?

[Breimoon]

magic calculation area is 1 http://www.batoto.net/read/_/200599/...y_mangaholic/6

[Sylux]

How far does Tats Decomposition works under the effect of cast jamming?

[XFire]

Originally Posted by Sylux

How far does Tats Decomposition works under the effect of cast jamming?

He can use it on Cast Jamming. It's completely useless against Decomposition.