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RandomGuy · 2006-12-22, 08:24

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Originally Posted by LostOnTheU-rturn

Hasn't One Piece sold more copies than Naruto?

In Japan, it most certainly has. Its popularity in the US is not as great, however.

-KarumA- · 2006-12-22, 08:36

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Originally Posted by RandomGuy

In Japan, it most certainly has. Its popularity in the US is not as great, however.

and that would explain why it isnt as populair as Naruto and Bleach, mostly because in those series they didnt replace Ichigo's bankai with a rubber baseball bat..

i still cant imagine that they had replaced the guns with waters guns.. ROFL

Trax · 2006-12-22, 10:23

Going over some points while trying to compare with Bleach/Naruto.

Drawing style

One Piece is not drawn in the regular anime style, which seems to turn off quite a bit of people. In my case though, a different style can make a series more appealing to me, because after seeing the same generic style over and over again it can get a bit boring and it's refreshing to see some variant style. I've checked out several animes simply because of a different style (e.g. NANA).

Coolness factor vs fun factor

One Piece doesn't have the coolness factor that Bleach/Naruto have with their swordfighting/shinigami & ninjas/jutsu. To make up for it though, OP has more of a fun and adventure factor. There's alot of goofy characters in One Piece, both in behaviour and appearance, which make for the fun and comedy where the pirate life makes for the adventure part with mysteries, treasures and battles (naval and otherwise). Luffy isn't the main character for nothing, he's the embodiment of goofiness and adventureousness. And personally I prefer the humor of OP, making it generally more fun to watch than Bleach and Naruto. Another thing I like about OP is that the characters tend to mix it up alot more in terms of their special abilities, thinking of new moves and variations all the time, unlike the Naruto/Bleach characters. Still, alot tend to be drawn more to the coolness factor of the other series.

Hype

Bleach and Naruto seem to have been hyped alot more which just built more and more interest in the series, which is probably due to the coolness factor I mentioned. So people are simply less likely to take a look at OP, unfortunately. Add to that the fact that the OP adaption doesn't do the original justice and it's understandable that OP doesn't score as well outside of Japan.

Size

While I can understand it can be a bit daunting to get started on OP when there are already over 200 episodes out, it's simply not a good argument especially when you consider that Naruto is also over 200 episodes for some time already and Bleach passed the 100 mark a while ago with more to come. Anyway, who cares how many episodes there are, it just means there's more entertainment to go through if it turns out to be to your liking. Unfortunately, I also got this as an argument when I tried to recommend it to someone, eventhough it's nonsense.

goozeygumgum · 2007-01-01, 17:48

hey people i sighned on just to talk in this part of this site!!! i think one piece is way better than naruto but no doubt naruto is awsome. i think naruto is way too seriouse one piece has adventure in it which i really like!!! i want to make a poll on this site to see whats better naruto or one piece!!!!!

goozeygumgum · 2007-01-01, 17:53

yo yoy oy one piece is in da house!!!!

goozeygumgum · 2007-01-01, 17:54

i really like eiichiro odas style its really good i dont know about you guys but at my school one piece is the most popular. do any of you guys actually like one piece???
ii think one piece has all the action that could blow bleach and naruto away!!!
i also like how one piece is an original idea unlike one piece shinigamis and ninjas have already been done. but pirates havent even been thought up ever for an anime and manga.in my oppinion ninjas are way cooler than pirATES BUT THE WAY ONE PIECE HAS SO MUCH ACTION AND ADVENTURE BLOWS AWAY THE WHOLE IDEA OF NINJAS!!!!!

goozeygumgum · 2007-01-01, 17:58

i really like bleach naruto and one piece but dbz blows them all away!!! it has way more action than all of them combined and the fighting is amazing the characters in dbz are so cool some are goofy and funny too!!! just one of the characters in dbz could beat up all the characters in naruto op and bleach!!!!!

goozeygumgum · 2007-01-01, 18:00

i think the drawing style in one piece is just fine i just dont think people watch it enough to like it and most people dont even know about it because shonen jump doesnt even make any big advertisement for one piece!!!!it makes me mad!!!!

Climhazard · 2007-01-01, 19:35

Wow

You like to talk don't you

goozeygumgum · 2007-01-01, 20:14

well duh!!! one piece is fun to talk about!!!

Climhazard · 2007-01-01, 20:53

Do you watch the One Piece that is on Cartoon Network with the english voices?

Xinil · 2007-01-01, 22:57

A lot of my friends have expressed that they don't want to watch One Piece because it seems extraordinarily "kiddy". As much as I try to tell them it isn't, they can't get past the 4Kids US version. I only watch it subbed, so I haven't been subjugated to the terrible and edited US release.

Trax brought up a lot of good points too. Basically everything he said I agree with.

Chuixupu · 2007-01-01, 22:58

I sure hope not...4kids stupped dubbing it anyway.

PS - please don't keep posting one post after another, if you want to say something else, just edit your posts.

Zu Ra · 2007-01-02, 17:36

IMO Bleach is not popular than One peice , Naruto definately but not Bleach . Naruto and Bleach are pure shonen genre while One Peice is not that shonen compared to these two .

Also the dubbing and changes made to One Peice are pathetic . Sanji with a lolipop @_@

Climhazard · 2007-01-02, 19:30

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Originally Posted by Geta Boshi

Also the dubbing and changes made to One Peice are pathetic . Sanji with a lolipop @_@

I really don't understand that tbh, 4kids gave Sanji a lolipop instead of a cigarette but if you go and watch Disney's Alice In Wonderland theres a sadistic clam grooming walrus that smokes cigars(it makes sense if youve seen the film).....wheres the sense in that?

goozeygumgum · 2007-01-02, 19:41

the tv show on 4 kids aint so bad but i watch one piece on you tube but i usually read them on one piece v.2 or one piece v.3. i have to admit sanji with a lolipop? where do they get that!!!

goozeygumgum · 2007-01-02, 19:42

why do the people that dont like one piece always say its not pure manga or anime? one piece is as pure as it can get!!!

S_C_L-1 · 2007-01-02, 20:04

...

c'mon man... use the damn edit button...

this is a forum, not a chat room

willynilly · 2007-01-03, 16:31

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Originally Posted by Climhazard

I really don't understand that tbh, 4kids gave Sanji a lolipop instead of a cigarette but if you go and watch Disney's Alice In Wonderland theres a sadistic clam grooming walrus that smokes cigars(it makes sense if youve seen the film).....wheres the sense in that?

yea its makes no since cause if you look at the Naruto dub, you can see that they kept Asuma's cigarette, instead of replacing it with a tooth pick, lolipop or some other crappy replacement.

Chuixupu · 2007-01-03, 17:04

It's because 4kids just has a certain way of doing things...they cater to the 4-7 children's audience, and edit for network broadcasting TV (subject ot the FCC), which prohibits a lot of things, including smoking in kids' shows. Viz decided to target Naruto to the 9-14 year old audience, and Cartoon Network does not have to kowtow to the FCC.
One Piece should have got the same treatment - I think that it was a big mistake to no do so, as the situation has proved thus.

2007-01-01, 17:48	Link #204
goozeygumgum goozeygumgum Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: not telling!!! neeeeyyyyyeeeeehhhhhh!!!!!	one piece rocks out loud better than naruto!!!! hey people i sighned on just to talk in this part of this site!!! i think one piece is way better than naruto but no doubt naruto is awsome. i think naruto is way too seriouse one piece has adventure in it which i really like!!! i want to make a poll on this site to see whats better naruto or one piece!!!!!

2007-01-01, 17:53	Link #205
goozeygumgum goozeygumgum Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: not telling!!! neeeeyyyyyeeeeehhhhhh!!!!!	one piece is still better yo yoy oy one piece is in da house!!!!

2007-01-01, 17:54	Link #206
goozeygumgum goozeygumgum Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: not telling!!! neeeeyyyyyeeeeehhhhhh!!!!!	one piece is still better i really like eiichiro odas style its really good i dont know about you guys but at my school one piece is the most popular. do any of you guys actually like one piece??? ii think one piece has all the action that could blow bleach and naruto away!!! i also like how one piece is an original idea unlike one piece shinigamis and ninjas have already been done. but pirates havent even been thought up ever for an anime and manga.in my oppinion ninjas are way cooler than pirATES BUT THE WAY ONE PIECE HAS SO MUCH ACTION AND ADVENTURE BLOWS AWAY THE WHOLE IDEA OF NINJAS!!!!!

2007-01-01, 17:58	Link #207
goozeygumgum goozeygumgum Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: not telling!!! neeeeyyyyyeeeeehhhhhh!!!!!	one piece is awsome but dbz is better!!! i really like bleach naruto and one piece but dbz blows them all away!!! it has way more action than all of them combined and the fighting is amazing the characters in dbz are so cool some are goofy and funny too!!! just one of the characters in dbz could beat up all the characters in naruto op and bleach!!!!!

2007-01-01, 18:00	Link #208
goozeygumgum goozeygumgum Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: not telling!!! neeeeyyyyyeeeeehhhhhh!!!!!	one piece is still cool! i think the drawing style in one piece is just fine i just dont think people watch it enough to like it and most people dont even know about it because shonen jump doesnt even make any big advertisement for one piece!!!!it makes me mad!!!!

2006-12-22, 10:23	Link #203
Trax Rock beats scissors Join Date: Jul 2004	Going over some points while trying to compare with Bleach/Naruto. Drawing style One Piece is not drawn in the regular anime style, which seems to turn off quite a bit of people. In my case though, a different style can make a series more appealing to me, because after seeing the same generic style over and over again it can get a bit boring and it's refreshing to see some variant style. I've checked out several animes simply because of a different style (e.g. NANA). Coolness factor vs fun factor One Piece doesn't have the coolness factor that Bleach/Naruto have with their swordfighting/shinigami & ninjas/jutsu. To make up for it though, OP has more of a fun and adventure factor. There's alot of goofy characters in One Piece, both in behaviour and appearance, which make for the fun and comedy where the pirate life makes for the adventure part with mysteries, treasures and battles (naval and otherwise). Luffy isn't the main character for nothing, he's the embodiment of goofiness and adventureousness. And personally I prefer the humor of OP, making it generally more fun to watch than Bleach and Naruto. Another thing I like about OP is that the characters tend to mix it up alot more in terms of their special abilities, thinking of new moves and variations all the time, unlike the Naruto/Bleach characters. Still, alot tend to be drawn more to the coolness factor of the other series. Hype Bleach and Naruto seem to have been hyped alot more which just built more and more interest in the series, which is probably due to the coolness factor I mentioned. So people are simply less likely to take a look at OP, unfortunately. Add to that the fact that the OP adaption doesn't do the original justice and it's understandable that OP doesn't score as well outside of Japan. Size While I can understand it can be a bit daunting to get started on OP when there are already over 200 episodes out, it's simply not a good argument especially when you consider that Naruto is also over 200 episodes for some time already and Bleach passed the 100 mark a while ago with more to come. Anyway, who cares how many episodes there are, it just means there's more entertainment to go through if it turns out to be to your liking. Unfortunately, I also got this as an argument when I tried to recommend it to someone, eventhough it's nonsense.

2007-01-01, 19:35	Link #209
Climhazard Funk Freed Join Date: May 2006	Wow You like to talk don't you

2007-01-01, 20:14	Link #210
goozeygumgum goozeygumgum Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: not telling!!! neeeeyyyyyeeeeehhhhhh!!!!!	well duh!!! one piece is fun to talk about!!!

2007-01-01, 20:53	Link #211
Climhazard Funk Freed Join Date: May 2006	Do you watch the One Piece that is on Cartoon Network with the english voices?

2007-01-01, 22:57	Link #212
Xinil Blargh Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 39	A lot of my friends have expressed that they don't want to watch One Piece because it seems extraordinarily "kiddy". As much as I try to tell them it isn't, they can't get past the 4Kids US version. I only watch it subbed, so I haven't been subjugated to the terrible and edited US release. Trax brought up a lot of good points too. Basically everything he said I agree with.

2007-01-01, 22:58	Link #213
Chuixupu Shikachu Join Date: Nov 2004	I sure hope not...4kids stupped dubbing it anyway. PS - please don't keep posting one post after another, if you want to say something else, just edit your posts.

2007-01-02, 17:36	Link #214
Zu Ra ✖ ǝʇ ɯıqnɾl ☆ Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Mortuary : D	IMO Bleach is not popular than One peice , Naruto definately but not Bleach . Naruto and Bleach are pure shonen genre while One Peice is not that shonen compared to these two . Also the dubbing and changes made to One Peice are pathetic . Sanji with a lolipop @_@ __________________

2007-01-02, 19:41	Link #216
goozeygumgum goozeygumgum Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: not telling!!! neeeeyyyyyeeeeehhhhhh!!!!!	the tv show on 4 kids aint so bad but i watch one piece on you tube but i usually read them on one piece v.2 or one piece v.3. i have to admit sanji with a lolipop? where do they get that!!!

2007-01-02, 19:42	Link #217
goozeygumgum goozeygumgum Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: not telling!!! neeeeyyyyyeeeeehhhhhh!!!!!	why do the people that dont like one piece always say its not pure manga or anime? one piece is as pure as it can get!!!

2007-01-02, 20:04	Link #218
S_C_L-1 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: in the whereabouts of Montreal, Quebec Age: 36	... c'mon man... use the damn edit button... this is a forum, not a chat room

2007-01-03, 17:04	Link #220
Chuixupu Shikachu Join Date: Nov 2004	It's because 4kids just has a certain way of doing things...they cater to the 4-7 children's audience, and edit for network broadcasting TV (subject ot the FCC), which prohibits a lot of things, including smoking in kids' shows. Viz decided to target Naruto to the 9-14 year old audience, and Cartoon Network does not have to kowtow to the FCC. One Piece should have got the same treatment - I think that it was a big mistake to no do so, as the situation has proved thus.