Nanoha Manga Discussion

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by Kaijo

Seriously? I know Nanoha is good, and fairly powerful... and she's the hero, and Fate has been training longer so they need to give Nanoha an edge... but why did they have to give Nanoha and RH quick regeneration?

I've heard about trying to up the drama and suspense, but there's only so far you can go before you start bursting through walls...

... so Nanoha is now the Kool-Aid Man?

*flees, but is struck down*

[Nanya01]

Originally Posted by FlameSparkZ

I guess this is the first "almost trap" character in the Nanohaverse, no?

Otto's off in a corner, crying with Deed trying to console her.

[Arkeus]

Originally Posted by Kaijo

Seriously? I know Nanoha is good, and fairly powerful... and she's the hero, and Fate has been training longer so they need to give Nanoha an edge... but why did they have to give Nanoha and RH quick regeneration?

I've heard about trying to up the drama and suspense, but there's only so far you can go before you start bursting through walls...

You do realize that regeneration of RH is nothing new at all, right?

[Gespenst]

I've just read the first 5 chapters of Force...

Spoiler:

I'm not quite sure what a divider is supposed to be but it seems like they're putting too much faith in it. It seems to be something that counteracts magic... but it's not like they haven't faced anything like that before and it's not like the TSAB doesn't have alternative methods of attack if they really need something dead... Orbital Bombardment, Kinetic Bombardment ... being punched in the face by Subaru.

Originally Posted by Nanya01

Otto's off in a corner, crying with Deed trying to console her.

Trap, not reverse trap.

[prescience]

Originally Posted by Nanya01

Otto's off in a corner, crying with Deed trying to console her.

I'm tempted to start referring to Fortis as the anti-Otto...

Originally Posted by Arkeus

You do realize that regeneration of RH is nothing new at all, right?

RH regenerating, no. But Nanoha herself recovering from that slash? Seems a bit much.

Oh, I know - Nanoha must be Neo...

EDIT @ Gespenst: The power of the Dividers is established a bit better in chapter 6 (not translated as of yet), when Signum faces off against Cypha. Laevateinn ends up cracking, during the fight, suggesting that the Dividers damage Devices simply by coming into contact with them or something. And orbital bombardment is only an option if you aren't worried about collateral damage...

[Blank-Mage]

And when it comes to wall-busting, look no further than Nanoha. (Figuratively AND literally.)

[Rising Dragon]

Originally Posted by Arkeus

You do realize that regeneration of RH is nothing new at all, right?

Also, fast regeneration like Recovery for RH is new.

[Gespenst]

Originally Posted by prescience

Laevateinn ends up cracking, during the fight, suggesting that the Dividers damage Devices simply by coming into contact with them or something.

Well contact isn't much of an issue either...

Zenryoku Zenkai...

Originally Posted by prescience

And orbital bombardment is only an option if you aren't worried about collateral damage...

...Smaller weapons can deliver measured amounts of energy as small as a 500 lb conventional bomb....

...I thought they were on an uninhabited planet for some reason.

[prescience]

Originally Posted by Gespenst

...I thought they were on an uninhabited planet for some reason.

Nope, definitely inhabited. Less developed than Midchilda, though. Also, Touma et al have spent most of their time in the countryside, which is probably what gave you that impression.

[Kaijo]

Originally Posted by Arkeus

You do realize that regeneration of RH is nothing new at all, right?

As people have mentioned, it is for RH and Nanoha. Bardiche had Recovery, but that was all I saw. When RH and Badriche were damaged before, it took them almost a day to fix themselves.

[Gespenst]

Originally Posted by prescience

Nope, definitely inhabited. Less developed than Midchilda, though. Also, Touma et al have spent most of their time in the countryside, which is probably what gave you that impression.

Wait was their base on that same planet that Touma met the clothes shop girl?

[prescience]

Hückebein? I assume so. In other parts of the manga where the scene transitions between planets, it mentions it in a text box. The transition to the Hückebein base didn't mention anything like that.

[Keroko]

*claps hand* Thank you, admiral Ackbar, for the delicious treat.

Originally Posted by LVD

.I realize most people hate him, but c'mon.

Ehh, Yuuno never was trap material. A feminine-ish look, sure. Easily gender-bent, sure.

But a trap? Nah.

Now Otto, on the other hand... There are still people in denial over her.

[FlameSparkZ]

Originally Posted by Nanya01

Otto's off in a corner, crying with Deed trying to console her.

Otto is a reverse trap, doesn't count

Originally Posted by Gespenst

Trap, not reverse trap.

See?

Originally Posted by Keroko

*claps hand* Thank you, admiral Ackbar, for the delicious treat.

Originally Posted by Keroko

Now Otto, on the other hand... There are still people in denial over her.

I was quite surprised when I found out.

Otto is probably the flat--- *is Ray Storm'ed*

U-ugh.......like, even Sein has mo---- *second barrage*

*static*

[prescience]

The funny thing is that I *know* Otto is female, and I still find myself referring to her as "him". Blame Carim's cosplaying tendencies, I guess...

[Keroko]

Originally Posted by prescience

The funny thing is that I *know* Otto is female, and I still find myself referring to her as "him". Blame Carim's cosplaying tendencies, I guess...

That's exactly what makes her a perfect trap.

[00-Raiser]

Originally Posted by Kaijo

As people have mentioned, it is for RH and Nanoha. Bardiche had Recovery, but that was all I saw. When RH and Badriche were damaged before, it took them almost a day to fix themselves.

That's cuz their cores (the heads of the staffs) were damaged. Those are the main units so it took much longer. In this case, only RH's staff was cut, so it really was just a simple matter of putting the two pieces back together.

As for Nanoha's recovery... yeah... gonna have to raise an eyebrow at that one.

I had my doubts about Otto at first, but once I found out she was a she, I've had no problem refering to her as such.

[Bananoha]

Haven't we been raising our eyebrows at Nanoha the entire time? o.ô

Originally Posted by Keroko

Ehh, Yuuno never was trap material. A feminine-ish look, sure. Easily gender-bent, sure.

Just looking at a still image is harder, at least for me, to discern gender. Or I can blame my eyes Record 05 pictures 'cause I thought there was long hair at the back too, not a funky style like that.

It'd be like seeing Yuuno from behind with just that ponytail of his, I guess.

[Gespenst]

Originally Posted by 00-Raiser

As for Nanoha's recovery... yeah... gonna have to raise an eyebrow at that one.

I've not read the chapter yet (having trouble getting through the movie manga for some reason) but maybe it was just magical damage?

Bardiche doesn't really have a blade after all (not like Laevatein does). And of course since this is the movie manga it's like the action movie version of Nanoha, right? It's just a flesh wound!

[Goldsmith]

Bardiche does have a blade.