Kami nomi/TWGOK - Character Discussion - Keima

[Pellissier]

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[Seihai]

Handsome look, good built body, smart, can make a girl fall for him if he wanted to. Has a pure and super adorable little demon sister by his side and an awesome mom.
OK, I guess we can overlook his father. Can he be more perfect?

[Clarste]

Spoiler for manga:

When the anime first came out, there were many complaints by manga readers (including me) that he blushed too often, or in general wasn't as "cool" as we had pictured him. Having actually gone back and reread the first few chapters though, it doesn't seem too different. Yet still the manga readers have this image of him as "the guy who doesn't blush when he should". Why is this? Because of his character development throughout the series!

Over time, Keima has gone from a guy who blushes to a guy who doesn't blush. Honestly, this seems backwards, in a certain sense. Isn't this story supposed to be about the guy who's detached from the real world being forced to confront the real world and maybe slowly opening up? So why then does he systemically become more detached from the real world over time? The simple answer is that he's treating the real like a game, and it's consistently responding like a game. Every capture he does reinforces his notion that reality is a badly written game until he eventually becomes completely comfortable treating it like that.

If you think about it, this is a very dark direction for his character to go in. The guy who's supposed to open up as the story goes on instead closes his heart more and more and becomes emotionally detached from everything. He's like the robot girl who forgets the emotions that she started the story with and a becomes a logical computer, truly a poorly written game. That said, it's possible the author is aware of this given recent developments like Akari. That whole mini-arc seemed explicitly designed to stop this development.

[risingstar3110]

Originally Posted by Clarste

Spoiler for manga:

When the anime first came out, there were many complaints by manga readers (including me) that he blushed too often, or in general wasn't as "cool" as we had pictured him. Having actually gone back and reread the first few chapters though, it doesn't seem too different. Yet still the manga readers have this image of him as "the guy who doesn't blush when he should". Why is this? Because of his character development throughout the series!

Over time, Keima has gone from a guy who blushes to a guy who doesn't blush. Honestly, this seems backwards, in a certain sense. Isn't this story supposed to be about the guy who's detached from the real world being forced to confront the real world and maybe slowly opening up? So why then does he systemically become more detached from the real world over time? The simple answer is that he's treating the real like a game, and it's consistently responding like a game. Every capture he does reinforces his notion that reality is a badly written game until he eventually becomes completely comfortable treating it like that.

If you think about it, this is a very dark direction for his character to go in. The guy who's supposed to open up as the story goes on instead closes his heart more and more and becomes emotionally detached from everything. He's like the robot girl who forgets the emotions that she started the story with and a becomes a logical computer, truly a poorly written game. That said, it's possible the author is aware of this given recent developments like Akari. That whole mini-arc seemed explicitly designed to stop this development.

I will prefer to discuss this over in the manga thread. Because even if this is a sub-forum, it's still an anime sub-forum.

Anyway, to make it short and limit any potential spoiler on future event...

Spoiler for Keima:

I don't see the point for Keima to "confront the real world ", yet. Remember that, to him the 2D is his world, and if he can assimilate the real world to his own world (even if he think the world is simply a messed-up game) then wouldn't that be the 1st step for whatever the ending is heading to?

How can he react in this world using 2-D knowledge would depend on his ability. But isn't the recent manga chapters (or even recent anime episodes) showed that he still have the ability to tackle the real world problems with his own way?

And if you reread the ending of a certain teacher or normal girl, you may realise that Keima's not simply a case of society withdraw that need help to change. He know well enough what is he doing and how the society seen him. And i bet many of us have to admire him for his personality

[MrTerrorist]

Originally Posted by Vanish

Handsome look, good built body, smart, can make a girl fall for him if he wanted to. Has a pure and super adorable little demon sister by his side and an awesome mom.
OK, I guess we can overlook his father. Can he be more perfect?

I still say his dad is Austin Powers.

[haiz123321]

I must say that he has actually changed the way I view things in life/games/anime and manga. I actually never thought about things like "routes", "events" etc. I only realised that it was true after I read the manga and decided to do a little predicting of my own and I was surprised at the result.

His guts to do the outrageous things he did is rather admirable even more so that he can actually do these kinds of things while putting on a straight face(Ayumi's arc). His dedication to characters from the game world is admirable as well and how he actually views what's inside and outside. Needless to say, his, "God-Capturing mode", is just...

Originally Posted by Clarste

*snip*

Spoiler for Off-Topic:

Actually, I thought it was fairly normal. No matter how much he wants to escape from the real, he is still real,a human, a growing boy at that. It's normal for him to blush. I mean, you can't say that you will not have any reaction when you experience things/encounters like having your face is about an inch away from a girl's face or when a girl suddenly holds your hands etc.

I don't think it actually changes into anything extreme like getting more detached from the real world. It's just more of a "getting used to it" part, though the Akari arc is kinda negates what I said though.

[margafred]

This is Lelouch's rip off

No... Keima is in a class of his own

He is a god after all.

[pampz21]

What cha guys talkin about???

There's only one word to describe Keima!!!


GOD-LIKE!

[Himeji]

Originally Posted by MrTerrorist

I still say his dad is Austin Powers.

No doubt about it. Keima is the kid of Austin Powers and a biker girl. No wonder that he's totally disturbed by reality and retracted himself into the 2D world

[fukarming]

I think the discussion of Keima attachment, deteachment of the real world is interesting. We all know that eventually Keima will open up to the real world, as it is highly unlikely that at the end of the series Keima is still as cold as he was. However, the whole charm point of Keima is that he is cold

Spoiler for manga spoiler:

Love it when he is totally unemotional of seeing "herself" naked in Yui's arc, and squeeze other boobs as a "plot development"

When Keima turns "warm", he loses his charm point and make him not different from regular. boring harem character anymore. I experience this in Ouran Highschool Host club - When Haruhi became flustered with Tamaki, she loses her charm point and become a boring shoujo character, which I drop the manga couple charters after that.

Let's see how the author of TWGOK approach that.

[applejuice]

He deserves his own religion.

[LeaD36]

^in a way, he already does

Spoiler for manga / whatever:

1. Inside his head, the debates between certain fractions also include religious ones.
2. the arc where they hail god's greatness for changing the galge-market, and his divine website

[risingstar3110]

@LeaD36: Let's just wait for those chapters... they gonna be so fillers, but so fun in the same time.

Too bad, we probably can't see them in anime, yet

[ronelm2000]

Keima...uhm...is one heck of a character. He's probably rich to have bought one PSP every episode. XD

[Seihai]

Yes, but it's even scarier to think he can afford all these games... after all, he has already captured 10.000+ heroines.
I'm not sure how many heroines are in a game in average but if you divide that amount by 10 girls each game it's still around 1k games.

And since his PFP already once broke in the first episode, it's safe to say that he has several PFPs with him.

[ronelm2000]

All of which presumably had keyboards...sccarrry....I guess Japan's that rich?

[fukarming]

Originally Posted by ronelm2000

All of which presumably had keyboards...sccarrry....I guess Japan's that rich?

Keima's family is rich.

Spoiler for manga spoiler:

His grandfather is a famous pottery/ clay artist and he absolutely adore Keima. My speculation is that Keima get most of his money from him

[Seihai]

Originally Posted by fukarming

Keima's family is rich.

Spoiler for manga spoiler:

His grandfather is a famous pottery/ clay artist and he absolutely adore Keima. My speculation is that Keima get most of his money from him

Spoiler for manga spoiler reply:

I'm not sure but didn't Keima once stated that he is actually using his mom's funds?

[risingstar3110]

Keima probably got free games and goods also, considering how much helps he provided to the gaming community

They have to offer God something, right?

[LeaD36]

Originally Posted by risingstar3110

@LeaD36: Let's just wait for those chapters... they gonna be so fillers, but so fun in the same time.

Too bad, we probably can't see them in anime, yet

i'm so looking forward to TWGOK fillers LOL

besides is there much to discuss about someone, who is not only called god, but can actually act according to his title? The first potent god in his own way imo.