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KuronaFanboy · 2013-03-25, 10:24

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Originally Posted by Demi.

They can actually introduce villains that aren't misunderstood. That way they can focus on the main cast of heroes laying the whoop down on them, and not worry too much about the baddies that aren't worthy of befriending. This also makes it so when they do a 4th movie, the cast wont already feel bloated...

Slice of Life would be SO good, though.

Nanoha is about befriending the sh*t out of the villains so they become good guys! With lasers.

They can't do that.

There HAS to be at least a branch of the bad guys that is misunderstood for the girls to befriend.

hiroaki4nanoha · 2013-03-25, 11:15

According to information provided at Lyrical Party 5 the title of the next film is Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha the Movie 3rd Reflection and is supposed to contain an original story line not a remake of StrikerS. It will be interesting to see what is coming up and it will probbaly de released either Fall 2014 or Spring 2015.

bhl88 · 2013-03-25, 11:47

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Originally Posted by hiroaki4nanoha

According to information provided at Lyrical Party 5 the title of the next film is Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha the Movie 3rd Reflection and is supposed to contain an original story line not a remake of StrikerS. It will be interesting to see what is coming up and it will probbaly de released either Fall 2014 or Spring 2015.

Known already. Though I wish the PSP characters would come and make an original story xD

FRS · 2013-03-25, 15:05

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Originally Posted by Keroko

The only way they can avoid introducing new characters is by going slice-of-life. No way they're going to do that.

Sure, but by doing it before Striker they could drop alot of characters, they could even drop the Yagami group.

Nanya01 · 2013-03-25, 15:08

It's not like anyone cares about anyone but Fate after all. =/

KuronaFanboy · 2013-03-25, 15:32

I think that any speculations along the lines of "they'll get RID of main characters" are unrealistic. I'd be willing to put money down that the third movie will star Nanoha, Fate, Hayate and the Wolkenritter. The only thing close to character removal will probably be Yuuno, Arf, Shamal, Zafira and other side-characters getting significantly less screentime because while they're awesome they're just not what most people go see the movies for (I loved Zafira's slightly expanded role in 2nd, personally).

Right now we know it'll be an "original story" "not based on any previous material". This probably rules out StrikerS entirely, including the flashbacks of Nanoha getting crippled, since that would be based on StrikerS. And much to my chagrin it probably rules out the PSP timeline as well, but to be fair the Materials as we know them couldn't exist in the movieverse since Reinforce was destroyed. Unless they rewrite them a third time, we're unlikely to see them.

It's hard to say where they'll go with this. Hopefully they have better writers on the movie team than the ones handling Force and ViVid, or the "original story" will probably be more of the same. Bad guy shows up, wastes everyone, deep scenes and training happens, good guys overwhelm the bad guy, befriend them, reveals there is an even bigger bad guy in the shadows, cue boss fight, tearjerking prologue, and it's a wrap.

Keroko · 2013-03-25, 16:05

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Originally Posted by FRS

Sure, but by doing it before Striker they could drop alot of characters, they could even drop the Yagami group.

If they're doing a pre-StrikerS, then I'm assuming you mean their high-school antics. In which case Hayate'd be in the class with them, and Nanoha'd be teamed up with Vita during missions. Unless they rewrite that.

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Originally Posted by KuronaFanboy

It's hard to say where they'll go with this. Hopefully they have better writers on the movie team than the ones handling Force and ViVid, or the "original story" will probably be more of the same. Bad guy shows up, wastes everyone, deep scenes and training happens, good guys overwhelm the bad guy, befriend them, reveals there is an even bigger bad guy in the shadows, cue boss fight, tearjerking prologue, and it's a wrap.

.... You've just summed up every Nanoha season there.

And I wouldn't count out the Materials just yet. There are several meanings to the word reflections after all.

bhl88 · 2013-03-25, 16:08

Reflections may involve the Materials XD Or may not -_-

Keroko · 2013-03-25, 16:16

Anything's possible right now. Just because the story won't be based on any of the running series doesn't mean the characters from those series can't be introduced. We're pretty much at the "roll a d100, check the chart" phase.

Which, really, is part of the fun. We haven't had a completely blank canvas for a Nanoha installment for quite a while.

KuronaFanboy · 2013-03-25, 16:54

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Originally Posted by Keroko

If they're doing a pre-StrikerS, then I'm assuming you mean their high-school antics. In which case Hayate'd be in the class with them, and Nanoha'd be teamed up with Vita during missions. Unless they rewrite that.

.... You've just summed up every Nanoha season there.

And I wouldn't count out the Materials just yet. There are several meanings to the word reflections after all.

Yep! That was my point.

It worked pretty well for the original season and for A's. StrikerS was somewhat predictable but I didn't dislike it too much. At least Jail was truly an evil loony, even if most of his goons filled the redeemable villains quota. ViVid and Force, though, just struck me as "more of the same" and not in a good way. I'm okay with more of the same if it's done right, like Gears of Destiny, but Force and ViVid are just... I don't know, not as... memorable, I guess?

krisslanza · 2013-03-26, 02:19

If we take the Sound Stages as canon (Which I guess we should) the Materials could very well show up, because there is a bunch of multiple timelines/realities/whatever you want to call them, and dimensional events can kinda mess things up and make you move around them...

Especially with Lost Logia. Those things do almost anything. Them darn Al-Hazard...
...

What if the movie is about Al-Hazard? Or Ancient Belka?

Demi. · 2013-03-26, 04:24

I'd have a hard time believing the movie isn't going to be a continuation of 2nd A's. If they somehow manage to add the materials into that timeline..Then power to them.

Triple_R · 2013-03-26, 06:01

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Originally Posted by Keroko

Anything's possible right now. Just because the story won't be based on any of the running series doesn't mean the characters from those series can't be introduced. We're pretty much at the "roll a d100, check the chart" phase.

Which, really, is part of the fun. We haven't had a completely blank canvas for a Nanoha installment for quite a while.

Agreed. After reading reviews for the latest Nanoha movie, I think it's very good that this newest one won't have a TV original to be compared against. People won't be expecting any specific scenes to show up, or not show up, because it's all new.

Personally, I think the Materials would make great antagonists for this third film, and they definitely would fit the title "Reflections" well.

KuronaFanboy · 2013-03-26, 06:54

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

Agreed. After reading reviews for the latest Nanoha movie, I think it's very good that this newest one won't have a TV original to be compared against. People won't be expecting any specific scenes to show up, or not show up, because it's all new.

Personally, I think the Materials would make great antagonists for this third film, and they definitely would fit the title "Reflections" well.

People will complain about every little thing anyway, I don't think being original will spare the third movie the harsh critics of overzealous purists.

Keroko · 2013-03-26, 07:05

It won't. And comparisons to previous seasons and why this movie is better or worse will always be drawn. But at least we'll have different expectations this time.

KuronaFanboy · 2013-03-26, 07:18

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Originally Posted by Keroko

It won't. And comparisons to previous seasons and why this movie is better or worse will always be drawn. But at least we'll have different expectations this time.

Sadly. Personally, I really enjoyed both movies. I wouldn't call them better, or worse, I would call them different, and I would call them a great way for new generations of anime watchers to get into the Nanoha series, while giving the old fans something new to sink their teeth into. Sure, I was a bit let down at some of the things the movies did, but I was also very happy with other things they did. Cutting the catgirl twins out for instance was kind of lame, but giving Zafira an expanded role (especially during the final battle) was awesome.

Craxuan · 2013-03-26, 07:58

I don't really think Zafira has an 'expanded' role, since they cut out his kungfu completely -_-".

Takamura Mamoru · 2013-03-26, 08:11

>shatters like three layers of shields with his fists vs. NachtWall

What was that?

Kaijo · 2013-03-26, 08:12

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Originally Posted by Triple_R

Agreed. After reading reviews for the latest Nanoha movie, I think it's very good that this newest one won't have a TV original to be compared against. People won't be expecting any specific scenes to show up, or not show up, because it's all new.

So, do you think it will thus do nothing wrong and have no plot holes? Or that any plot holes can be immediately disregarded as long as there are enough shiny explosions?

Keroko · 2013-03-26, 09:13

At the very least we won't have the same level of one-on-one comparisons.

2013-03-25, 11:15	Link #122
hiroaki4nanoha Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2012	Title of the next Movie According to information provided at Lyrical Party 5 the title of the next film is Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha the Movie 3rd Reflection and is supposed to contain an original story line not a remake of StrikerS. It will be interesting to see what is coming up and it will probbaly de released either Fall 2014 or Spring 2015.

2013-03-25, 15:08	Link #125
Nanya01 Left for TFF Author Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Frozen Hell of the North Age: 41	It's not like anyone cares about anyone but Fate after all. =/ __________________ My fics Due to certain things, I am not here, find me over on TFF.

2013-03-25, 16:08	Link #128
bhl88 Otaku Apprentice Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Unseen Horizon	Reflections may involve the Materials XD Or may not -_- __________________ OS-tan Collections (temporary): https://discord.gg/Hv2rBs3

2013-03-26, 02:19	Link #131
krisslanza Sleep beneath the flowers Join Date: May 2007 Location: Lording above all of humanity >;3 Age: 34	If we take the Sound Stages as canon (Which I guess we should) the Materials could very well show up, because there is a bunch of multiple timelines/realities/whatever you want to call them, and dimensional events can kinda mess things up and make you move around them... Especially with Lost Logia. Those things do almost anything. Them darn Al-Hazard... ... What if the movie is about Al-Hazard? Or Ancient Belka? __________________

2013-03-26, 04:24	Link #132
Demi. Ass connoisseur Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Florida Age: 37	I'd have a hard time believing the movie isn't going to be a continuation of 2nd A's. If they somehow manage to add the materials into that timeline..Then power to them. __________________

2013-03-25, 15:32	Link #126
KuronaFanboy Inactive Member Join Date: May 2008	I think that any speculations along the lines of "they'll get RID of main characters" are unrealistic. I'd be willing to put money down that the third movie will star Nanoha, Fate, Hayate and the Wolkenritter. The only thing close to character removal will probably be Yuuno, Arf, Shamal, Zafira and other side-characters getting significantly less screentime because while they're awesome they're just not what most people go see the movies for (I loved Zafira's slightly expanded role in 2nd, personally). Right now we know it'll be an "original story" "not based on any previous material". This probably rules out StrikerS entirely, including the flashbacks of Nanoha getting crippled, since that would be based on StrikerS. And much to my chagrin it probably rules out the PSP timeline as well, but to be fair the Materials as we know them couldn't exist in the movieverse since Reinforce was destroyed. Unless they rewrite them a third time, we're unlikely to see them. It's hard to say where they'll go with this. Hopefully they have better writers on the movie team than the ones handling Force and ViVid, or the "original story" will probably be more of the same. Bad guy shows up, wastes everyone, deep scenes and training happens, good guys overwhelm the bad guy, befriend them, reveals there is an even bigger bad guy in the shadows, cue boss fight, tearjerking prologue, and it's a wrap.

2013-03-25, 16:16	Link #129
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	Anything's possible right now. Just because the story won't be based on any of the running series doesn't mean the characters from those series can't be introduced. We're pretty much at the "roll a d100, check the chart" phase. Which, really, is part of the fun. We haven't had a completely blank canvas for a Nanoha installment for quite a while.

2013-03-26, 07:05	Link #135
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	It won't. And comparisons to previous seasons and why this movie is better or worse will always be drawn. But at least we'll have different expectations this time.

2013-03-26, 07:58	Link #137
Craxuan Crax Author Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: MY	I don't really think Zafira has an 'expanded' role, since they cut out his kungfu completely -_-". __________________

2013-03-26, 08:11	Link #138
Takamura Mamoru The Hawk Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Berlin, Fatherland	>shatters like three layers of shields with his fists vs. NachtWall What was that? __________________ MAL

2013-03-26, 09:13	Link #140
Keroko Adeptus Animus Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Age: 36	At the very least we won't have the same level of one-on-one comparisons.