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Old 2016-10-28, 10:25   Link #2281
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^i would hate it if that happened, inasa fails but not todo?
he is fault too and if the author prevents it with some kind of excuse like "he wasnt the one at fault" (which isnt really true) than i will hate it,
letting main chars fail is one of the very few things that get long-time shounen readers happy, the MC failing because he is a underdog? yes, that happened too,
but seeing the powerful supposedly "genius" rivals fail almost never happens, so it is a great thing that BNHA does it,

suddenly giving todo a pass will be cr*ppy, if that was the case inasa should manage too...
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Old 2016-10-28, 10:33   Link #2282
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^i would hate it if that happened, inasa fails but not todo?
he is fault too and if the author prevents it with some kind of excuse like "he wasnt the one at fault" (which isnt really true) than i will hate it,
letting main chars fail is one of the very few things that get long-time shounen readers happy, the MC failing because he is a underdog? yes, that happened too,
but seeing the powerful supposedly "genius" rivals fail almost never happens, so it is a great thing that BNHA does it,

suddenly giving todo a pass will be cr*ppy, if that was the case inasa should manage too...
Who knows...maybe those examiners hate Inasa as well.
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Old 2016-10-28, 12:02   Link #2283
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What's more is how he insisted on keeping up with his flame attacks when he knew the wind would make them ineffective and that almost led to disastrous results.
He tried using ice attacks previously, and they were completely ineffective against Orca. He tried using a fire attack and it got blown off by Yoarashi's wind. He tried recommending that Yoarashi help move the injured - something Yoarashi had already demonstrated an ability to do well - but Yoarashi refused. He tried using a fire attack again, only for it to be blown off course again because Yoarashi insisted on not letting Todoroki take all the glory and tried using his wind again at the same time.

What is he supposed to do in that situation? Use ice even though he knows it's ineffective? His fire should be more effective, but on both his attempts at using it Yoarashi interfered. Was he supposed to give up on trying fire after the first time Yoarashi screwed him up? Was he supposed to do nothing but wait until Yoarashi was down before trying something?

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^i would hate it if that happened, inasa fails but not todo?
he is fault too and if the author prevents it with some kind of excuse like "he wasnt the one at fault" (which isnt really true) than i will hate it,
letting main chars fail is one of the very few things that get long-time shounen readers happy, the MC failing because he is a underdog? yes, that happened too,
but seeing the powerful supposedly "genius" rivals fail almost never happens, so it is a great thing that BNHA does it,

suddenly giving todo a pass will be cr*ppy, if that was the case inasa should manage too...
The author doesn't need any excuse other than that Todoroki and Yoarashi's argument and related failings cost them 50 points or less. Todoroki was at full points when Orca showed up, while Yoarashi already lost a bunch of points for moving victims and rubble before checking to see if it was safe to do so. As long as they weren't docked more than 50 points for their feud, Todoroki would pass by the skin of his teeth, while Yoarashi would fail.

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Old 2016-10-28, 12:50   Link #2284
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He tried using ice attacks previously, and they were completely ineffective against Orca. He tried using a fire attack and it got blown off by Yoarashi's wind. He tried recommending that Yoarashi help move the injured - something Yoarashi had already demonstrated an ability to do well - but Yoarashi refused. He tried using a fire attack again, only for it to be blown off course again because Yoarashi insisted on not letting Todoroki take all the glory and tried using his wind again at the same time.

What is he supposed to do in that situation? Use ice even though he knows it's ineffective? His fire should be more effective, but on both his attempts at using it Yoarashi interfered. Was he supposed to give up on trying fire after the first time Yoarashi screwed him up? Was he supposed to do nothing but wait until Yoarashi was down before trying something?
With Inasa around his fire attacks were equally ineffective if not more so. Todo was achieving nothing by trying to use his fire in those conditions. What's worst is that his actions nearly got another personinjured by his flames. Heroes need to adapt to the situation. Villains, civilians with quirks, obnoxious people, any of these could get in your way, and a pro hero needs to know how to deal with them and adapt. You can't just stubbornly barrel on through.


If Inasa can't be reasoned with and thus both fire and ice are ineffective against Orca then Todo is better off backing off and letting Inasa have his way; fighting with him will achieve nothing(maybe even less than nothing). Todo could have backed off and used his ice to take care of the minions instead. He could have backed off and used his ice to create a wall that would help separate the villains from the victims; gives the other heroes more time to evacuate the area and more time for heroes to reinforce them. He could have fell back and regrouped with the other heroes to prepare a counter attack. If Inasa gets taken down like the Quake guy did, then that would be the time to step in and try using his fire.


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The author doesn't need any excuse other than that Todoroki and Yoarashi's argument and related failings cost them 50 points or less. Todoroki was at full points when Orca showed up, while Yoarashi already lost a bunch of points for moving victims and rubble before checking to see if it was safe to do so. As long as they weren't docked more than 50 points for their feud, Todoroki would pass by the skin of his teeth, while Yoarashi would fail.
I think getting caught up in personal bickering with someone while standing in front of a villain, using ineffective attacks, and allowing your poor judgement to lead to your quirk almost injuring another person is worthy of instant failure. That is a MAJOR mess up that heroes can not afford to make on the job. Those are the kinds of mistakes that not only lead to defeat but also get innocent people killed.
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Old 2016-10-28, 13:02   Link #2285
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What is he supposed to do in that situation? Use ice even though he knows it's ineffective? His fire should be more effective, but on both his attempts at using it Yoarashi interfered. Was he supposed to give up on trying fire after the first time Yoarashi screwed him up? Was he supposed to do nothing but wait until Yoarashi was down before trying something?
he could have seen that inasa is hell bend on getting in his way and than instead of staying stubborn and only targetting orca he could use his ice powers and stop all the fodders from going after the civilians while inasa gets to slow down orca until everyone is safe...
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The author doesn't need any excuse other than that Todoroki and Yoarashi's argument and related failings cost them 50 points or less. Todoroki was at full points when Orca showed up, while Yoarashi already lost a bunch of points for moving victims and rubble before checking to see if it was safe to do so. As long as they weren't docked more than 50 points for their feud, Todoroki would pass by the skin of his teeth, while Yoarashi would fail.
which is one of the excuses i was talking off...
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Old 2016-11-02, 02:07   Link #2286
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Old 2016-11-02, 04:24   Link #2287
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i saw some pictures too,
not only todo and inasa failed but
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Old 2016-11-02, 04:30   Link #2288
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Old 2016-11-02, 04:57   Link #2289
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i saw some pictures too,
not only todo and inasa failed but
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Old 2016-11-02, 05:24   Link #2290
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Old 2016-11-02, 06:21   Link #2291
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Old 2016-11-02, 06:23   Link #2292
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The english scan is out, and I was wrong about her having dual-life.

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Old 2016-11-02, 07:32   Link #2293
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There's a few reasons why this makes sense to me.
yeah, the story tried to give a reason too, albeit indirectly,
it seems like that because the "heroic"-business is one of ideals and impossible perfect looks the smallest actions of a hero will grow bigger in the eyes of society,
....still a very weak reason for letting someone fail :/
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Firstly, this test is primarily to see how well people work in teams. Bakugou's personality is one which doesn't work well with teams, as it seems too aggressive and pressuring. Basically, he doesn't take orders well, and isn't the type that people easily follow.
actually, people do follow him, and while he might now work under someone, he can lead people really good...
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Secondly, we didn't actually see him do much. The second round was basically the worst testing situation he could have met. His quirk didn't have much direct use, his personality isn't suited for the situation, he could have easily spent the time wondering what he should do. I mean, yes, there are things that he could have done, but most of them can be considered dangerous to him as well as others.
from denkis comments it seems like it was indeed his way of talking that cost him the license...like...seriously
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Third, Bakugou didn't appear to even try to adapt to the situation. Being asked to help people, all we saw of him was standing and telling minorly injured people to go to the medical centre themselves, and he did that rudely. Rather than someone who can gather the goodwill of the populace, Bakugou seems to be a potential hero that earn's the ire of both the populace and his work associates due to his rude way of speaking. This is amplified by the fact that this story's taking place in Japan, where they have a culture where being publicly rude is considered atrocious conduct (when compared to Western Cultural views on being outright rude, where swearing while ordering coffee but not verbally abusing the barista can be considered relatively inoffensive).
that could simply be overcome by his actions,
the same way how the class came to more or less accept him despite his foul mouth, his actions impressed them anyway...

anyway, seems like there is still a excuse to give the 11 failed people their hero license after a training camp and if they are good enough they will get their hero license too...
the reason: the 11 people are having good abilitys, so they dont want to let them wait until another exam starts
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Old 2016-11-02, 08:00   Link #2294
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Have the feeling on how Toga will spend her night at that day.

Toga: First when I get home, I will undress myself in front of the full-length mirror, and then I will turn into "Deku".

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Old 2016-11-02, 08:39   Link #2295
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^ this lol. And there's a doujinshi of them (Toku or Dega) as well.
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Old 2016-11-02, 08:57   Link #2296
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That other Shiketsu student said "Kemi" had been acting different for the last few days. That sounds, rather disturbingly, like there is a Shiketsu student with that name, but Toga kidnapped or killed her and took her place.
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Old 2016-11-02, 09:07   Link #2297
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That other Shiketsu student said "Kemi" had been acting different for the last few days. That sounds, rather disturbingly, like there is a Shiketsu student with that name, but Toga kidnapped or killed her and took her place.
Yeah, the real Kemi is as good as dead.

Just when I want to see Deku adding more girls into his harem, it turned out to be an existing fraud.
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Old 2016-11-02, 09:27   Link #2298
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ehh, I dunno how to feel about this, not a big fan of "impostor plot" in general

but that was a nice twist

P.S: that is one hell of an epic coloured page
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Old 2016-11-02, 14:38   Link #2299
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ehh, I dunno how to feel about this, not a big fan of "impostor plot" in general

but that was a nice twist

P.S: that is one hell of an epic coloured page
Agreed. Just worried this is going to be moving into the typical "imposter commits crimes and ruins heroes good name" territory and everyone will instantly believe Deku is bad instead of thinking it could be an imposter. Even though the world is filled with super powered people who could do that.
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Old 2016-11-02, 15:03   Link #2300
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Agreed. Just worried this is going to be moving into the typical "imposter commits crimes and ruins heroes good name" territory and everyone will instantly believe Deku is bad instead of thinking it could be an imposter. Even though the world is filled with super powered people who could do that.

I forget when exactly it was mentioned, but I'm pretty sure I recall the UA teachers mentioning that people's quirks are officially registered, with the exceptions being villains like Shigaraki. So if Toga's quirk isn't officially registered, I think I can see how that could turn into a real problem....
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