2013-10-07, 22:23 | Link #4601 |
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Wilshere has never been a winger. He doesn't have the pace to burn defenders on the outside, and the bursts he's so famed for are far more effective in the middle because the defenders are on the backfoot as he darts into the space between their midfield and defence.
On the other hand, Rosicky is far more effective wide than Wilshere because he actually has pace, despite the fact that he's turning 33 soon. Wilshere will find it hard in the middle because of the quality and form we have there at the moment. We really need Podolski, Walcott, Cazorla back because they really add to the danger of our game. We're missing runners in behind the defence, something that only when Walcott is missing, then we realise just how important he is to the team, despite years of criticising his "lack of footballing brain". His movement and pace is what opens up space for the midfielders. Cazorla and Ozil is really a mouth-watering pairing on paper, but I've no doubts since they're world-class. I cannot wait for the international break to end quickly. |
2013-10-19, 21:26 | Link #4603 |
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Yesterday Arsenal's goal was classy, particularly the first goal and the third goal.
It's been so long since I feel this excited about the prospect of Arsenal winning the title. Arsenal already had the creativity in the midfield, now if only January they can secure one more good striker. |
2013-10-20, 18:39 | Link #4604 |
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What I have to say about Gollum-faced prick, who is our manager, is already said in my signature. When you think that one of my friends, who saw the troubled times in the 1970s and 1980s (and is usually a patient man), even showed the middle finger to the screen when Moyes was shown, it shows how bad things are getting.
Also SAF was in the stands. He had the same death glare look he had on the day he threw a boot above David Beckham's eye. The sooner that Scouse Scottish imbecile leaves and packs his negative tactics with him, the better things will be. |
2013-10-20, 21:59 | Link #4606 |
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to be fair, moyes was great at everton. but not everyone is cut to make it as a CL manager, not that united will be there next season.. i'll give it a year or two (not next season) before Moyes leaves and Klopp leave Dortmond. I legitimately feel bad for Dortmond. they do a great job at replacing their players, but losing 2 every year is a bad deal.
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2013-10-20, 22:58 | Link #4607 |
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It's not really a fair judgment considering SAF left having won the title last season quite comprehensively and Moyes is pretty much being expected to defend the title in his first season. Granted, he has managed Everton and this is something new to him. Managing a team into top ten consistently isn't easy especially for a club like Everton.
Everyone assumes it's normal for United to be doing well; they aren't wrong, but they neglect to consider that it's a transitionary period for the team, and if they cannot adequately replace Sir Alex's nous, they'll end up like Arsenal, struggling to win trophies for years. |
2013-10-21, 07:23 | Link #4609 |
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Considering that Everton is playing even better without Moyes, of course there are doubts over his ability.
I means they stuck with him for 10 years and they were all talking about how he did wonder for Everton. So you will expect them to show that same drop in performances like United did. But apparently that was not the case
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2013-10-21, 07:37 | Link #4610 | |
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Since Saturday, I looked around in Man Utd fan forums and one of the threads raised a very important point: The most confusing thing about the hiring of David Moyes is that as a winning institution, as a club that always strives to win trophies and set the standard in English football, we've hired someone who has won NOTHING. When you look at other big clubs, they look hard at hiring managers who have won something at least. In the case of replacing Fergie, it was worth a hell lot to consider because of how huge the task is. Looking at the facts: David Moyes spent around 15 years in management and is aged 50 now. Zero trophy, no league title, no cups. He may have saved Everton from relegation years ago and ends up regularly around 8th to 5th place. THAT BEING SAID, why have the likes of Chelsea, Manchester City and Tottenham never gone for David Moyes when they needed someone to take any of their teams to another level if Moyes is that damn good? The answer speaks for itself and it was reflected in the tactical decisions he made so far at United: HE'S A TACTICAL DINOSAUR! This might cut for a mid-table team, but not for a top club. Even then, there are managers from mid-table teams who are a hell lot more positive and attacking-minded than Moyes at the moment. Moyes looks like a guy who was on welfare and now sits on the money he got after winning the lottery. The way he keeps playing guys who are out of their depth while he alienated the likes of Kagawa, Hernandez, the young Wilfried Zaha, Fabio... that's just disgusting. That's a sign of cowardly bias against flair players who would certainly save Moyes' ass more often than costing points. The more it goes, the more I believe he was chosen because he's the best British manager available. Well, I have some news for everyone: now that Fergie is out of the game, British managers have proven at 99% to be outdated dinosaurs and it's no surprise that the best EPL managers are foreigners by a mile. If United were serious in looking for the best manager available, they should have gone for a foreigner, be it Klopp, Mourinho, Martinez, Laudrup, Rudi Garcia or even (also a favorite) Solskjaer. For me, it's simple: if Moyes doesn't accomplish a top 4 finish, he will get axed just like Giovani Trappatoni was sacked by Bayern after a 6th place finish in 1994-95 (the last time they ended up outside of the top 4 in the Bundesliga). My allegiance is to the team, not the manager. They bought Martinez's system immediately. As I wrote, watch highlights of the game against Southampton and you will see how Moyes reeks negativity. |
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2013-10-21, 13:58 | Link #4611 | |
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Moyes fits the profile of what United was looking for. Someone who understands the club culture and could provide continuity. Ferguson was not a tactical genius either but he at least knew his own weakness and delegated that task to his coaches. Something Moyes can also do in time. A bigger issue is that the squad he inherited isn't suited for the modern passing game. While United as a football club could actually benefit from the cleansing effect of a few meager years, getting rid of dead weight and glory hunting supporters, it's probably bad news for the brand and the financial future of the organization. In my opinion United's biggest problem is the Glazer ownership who have taken money out of the club rather than invest. The club has the highest revenue in the prems and the 3rd highest in world football yet isn't able to fund a squad that is comparable to that of Barcelona, Madrid or Bayern. Investment has been neglected for several years now and this is catching up with the team. Just as the Glazer's other franchise Tampa Bay has suffered from years of neglect. Given that the Glazers have switched to emergency spending on Tampa before this season, I suspect it will be a while before United can be propped up. |
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2013-10-21, 17:39 | Link #4612 | |
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If Moyes knew what weaknesses he had, he should have done a minimum of effort to retain 2 out of the backroom people who were there last year simply to make an easier transition. Guardiola brought his own Spanish assistant, but the Bayern goalkeeper and first team coaches kept their jobs. Instead, he changed the goalkeeper coach, he brought in the controversial figure known as Steve Round and the inexperienced Phil Neville. If we drop out of the top 4, it will be extremely difficult to become attractive to players we look after in order to make the rebuilding process successful. Liverpool are barely coming out of the woods after spending a few years outside of the top 4. Indeed, it hurts the brand financially. About the Glazers, I'm just baffled that no one forced them to sell any of their assets ASAP in order for banks to get their bloody money back in these times of economic uncertainty. That's what they did for Tom Hicks and George Gillett at Liverpool however. If that debt was solved, there would be no excuse whatsoever about not investing into the club. Still, I'll hang those bastards dry until the day they GTFO of my club. Love United Hate Glazer. Last edited by KiraYamatoFan; 2013-10-21 at 20:23. |
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2013-10-22, 08:58 | Link #4613 | ||
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I'm not saying Moyes is doing a great job so far, but his appointment was logical. He had proven at Preston and Everton that he can make a team punch above it's weight, find value in the transfer market and was able to hold a management job over time. It's pretty clear the board wanted a Ferguson clone. Quote:
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2013-10-22, 09:29 | Link #4614 |
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Remember when people wanted Ferguson sacked in first few years? Yeah. Football fans need more patient these days. Feel like stability is so important for football club, but fan gets too impatient and wants result now.
Here is the thing, constant success like United had was incredible. You can't expect that kinda of success forever. So a down year might happen, especially a transition year. And unlike Liverpool, United had great success years, so their image in the world should be safe for few more year.
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2013-10-22, 10:56 | Link #4615 | |
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Furthermore football nowadays has changed as once you fell out of the top, it's awfully hard to get back. You do remember that Liverpool was winning the CL in 2005, went to CL final in 2007, was incredibly close to winning EPL title in 2008 and was considered one of the strongest team in Europe around that time, much more so than Real Madrid or even Barcelona. One season out of top 4. Lost an influential manager. And now they spent past 4 years skirting top half of the table. Same problem like United do now as they don't have money to overpay for players, and seeing their main target off to Real, Barcelona, Bayern, Chelsea...etc...
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2013-10-22, 11:12 | Link #4616 | |
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Here is the thing about Liverpool though, during that span they just won that two or three trophies nothing else, though that one CL is amazing. Also haven't won a league title for two decades, while United have been winning for years. That kinda of image will last, hell even Liverpool is still popular despite their failure over the years. And Liverpool further proves my point. Their problem was a result of the failure within their ownership and their front office. Liverpool's recent turn around came as a result of their new owner and sticking with a manger, instead of sacking him for a slow start. Stability is really important for a club, unless they have sugar daddy like City or Chelsea. And I am not saying Moyes is doing a good job, but this is a learning process for him as well. Give him time and lets see how this team goes.
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I means honestly their results were not actually that bad. If Ferguson was still on the helm, i have no doubt that they can turn it around. But with Moyes there, the doubt of his ability would make his job much, much harder
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2013-10-22, 11:30 | Link #4619 | |
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Nevertheless, this season for United should be interesting.
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As risingstar3110 mentioned, the context behind SAF's arrival in 1986 was a lot different compared to Moyes' arrival this year. However, Alex Ferguson (not Sir back then) won 3 Scottish league, a number of Scottish Cups and the UEFA Cup Winners' Cup as well. As you can see, Fergie had the résumé with him while Moyes doesn't and that part is the most baffling one really. The only exception I would have made in hiring a manager is Ole Gunnar Solskajer because he won everything as a player and he worked very well as the Reserves' coach before coaching Molde. Quote:
What I mean is that United's board shouldn't be afraid to sack people when things go wrong nor they should be afraid of hiring a foreigner even if there's no guarantee for him to stay long term. After all, Ferguson and Wenger are the last of their kind in all of pro sports. Did anybody watch the Arsenal-Dortmund game today? It was some good football with good tempo based on what was displayed. |
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