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Perfect 10 | 171 | 72.77% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 42 | 17.87% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 12 | 5.11% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 4 | 1.70% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 0.43% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 2 | 0.85% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 3 | 1.28% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2011-02-25, 04:19 | Link #221 |
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Well, I think that Madoka is by this point assured of Incubator not being innocent in any measure, so seeing him shot to pieces is only a case of spoiled milk. I think her mind became too occupied with Sayaka and to have Homura's sudden interruption to bother with Incubator's corpse too much.
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2011-02-25, 04:19 | Link #222 |
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I see you're already here. I want to see your take on Sayaka's fatalistic approach and Homura's multiverse travels (consider it a continuation of that MWI discussion in the Clannad forums two years ago )
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2011-02-25, 04:21 | Link #223 | |
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2011-02-25, 04:22 | Link #224 |
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The best part of this episode was Kyubey eating his own holey body like swiss cheese.
(Not holy, holey...) The second best part was when Homura took out a grenade. Seriously, who was expecting that? I notice that the weapons have been getting more advanced... Kyoko - Sectional spear Sayaka - Sword saber Mami - Redcoat rifle Homura - Guns and grenades Madoka - LAZER BEAMZ O' DEATH |
2011-02-25, 04:33 | Link #225 |
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Well, what I feel is a strong reminder of Ryokushi's scenario via Higurashi to be honest. IMW would apply here I suppose, but we'd be really going off tangent to discuss this here. If it were Ryokushi, he might attribute to miracle falling victim to certainty of despair to a lack of understanding/consensus of all the actors involved... and it would fall to Homura to somehow steer the ship to a better direction.
Sayaka's own approach seems to make her a tragic Greek heroine, whose fall is that of her own making. Ultimately, her approach was made on premature conclusions and she came to realize this at a point of no return. Perhaps the worst part about Sayaka's turmoils would be the impact that her rant will have no Madoka in trying to discern what she must do. I was discussing with SpaceBrotha, AtomicX and Arkeus about how Kamijou and Hitomi being sent to the sacrificial altar. As strange as it is, I felt that Kamijou and Hitomi should not be butchered by the vices of Sayaka as it's now almost meaningless plot wise. The final role for Hitomi and Kamijou would be to play a final clarification on what their stance on Sayaka have been, and based off of what Urobuchi Gen is known for, Kamijou and Hitomi have only the best of intention for Sayaka, with Sayaka completely misunderstanding the situation. A secondary role for Kamijou would be to see if hope and despair must coexist together, so essentially whether if he becomes crippled yet again following the demise of Sayaka would be paramount.
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2011-02-25, 04:39 | Link #226 |
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Next up should be Kyoko. She won't be able to save Sayaka. Will she find redemption before her destruction? Not sure, but her death still leads to Homura fighting alone.
Sayaka does have a possible escape, though it may still lead to death. Hitomi's actions this episode now reinforces the possibility of her telling Kamijo about Sayaka's feeling for him. Kamijo may be Sayaka's out but may still only be a fatal out The cycle theory also gained greater probablility. Madoka may simply be accumulating her previous MS power. Last edited by Daniel E.; 2011-02-25 at 04:47. Reason: For the last time, please drop it already! |
2011-02-25, 04:43 | Link #227 |
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oh my god....
shock and awe.... it's just shock and awe. everything was in sinc. Plot movement, bgm, Shaft's amazing directions and Urobuchi's zetsubou... This becomes the best anime Shaft ever made, and might as well become the best anime since 2009. IN- KYUUBE - ITER
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2011-02-25, 04:48 | Link #228 |
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Just finished watching episode 8. Excellent development. Many questions answered and also still many info to wonder about. I'm interested to see what is "inkyubeytor" really plotting and what really happened between Homura and Madoka.
The animation is also superb in this episode. Gotta love the artistic touches Shaft used for this episode. Overall I'll give this another 9/10. The preview... so I guess Kyoko dies next episode. x_X
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2011-02-25, 04:48 | Link #229 | |
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I think the question for Sayaka now would be if she could even be redeemed at this point. Homura tried and failed, and we don't know of Madoka can do it. The idealist in me would say that she can, that this is her power, and breaking the cycle entails saving witches from their corruption. That is of course assuming we get such a story. I'm trying to actually think of a Tragic Greek hero/ine who would fit Madoka nicely to some extent, but I haven't seriously read Greek mythology in 5 years.
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2011-02-25, 04:53 | Link #230 |
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hmmm.. i actually assumed that madoka is already homura's friend in the present timeline and there's just somesort of memory wipe. i thought of this since madoka must not show some signs of remembering her if she hadn't met her, eh??
anyhow, somebody pointed out that homura might be madoka's daughter in the future timeline. and that pink ray in her hand? isn't that madoka's color? might that be an indication of something. probably a hint of what relationship the two shared?
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2011-02-25, 05:03 | Link #231 |
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I've been thinking a bit about the scene where Homura gets away from Kyoko. Her shield/clock opens up to have two gems and it seems like power from at least one of those needs to reach the inner mechanism in order to activate a time stop. One gem kind of looks like the color of QB's eye... I think. The other is in the shadow so the color is indeterminable.
Homura was able to pop a grenade after her shield "opened." To stop time the two inner channels needed to fill with power. Previously when she used just the time stop I don't think her shield ever opened or showed open (going by episode 6), so opening might have to do with where or how she gets her weapons which, seeing as her gun and ammo casings didn't disappear, are probably real. Maybe she's got a tactical nuke in there for the Witches' Night? |
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2011-02-25, 05:17 | Link #234 |
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I for one would not prefer a KillEmAll End if it can be helped, but if we're going to get an end where Madoka is simply fighting a useless battle then I'd prefer hints of it rather than a sudden "oh shit" moment at the end.
Of course it's safe to conclude that if there's even one mention of a way for Madoka to save Sayaka, Madoka will likely achieve it, unless it's presented as a very real possibility and Urobuchi decides to twist the knife by deciding to make her fail at it.
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2011-02-25, 05:22 | Link #236 |
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If Madoka fails to save Sayaka, or having done so at unbelievable cost, it would be reminiscent of Faust being dissuaded by Mephistopheles to save Gretchen who he pities instead of love, or to Mephistopheles committing atrocity in the name of Faust and had to be reminded of the tragedy by care... it would be terribly consistent to Goethe's viewpoint should Urobuchi execute the situation as such.
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Again, who knows? Goethe's Faust was also a story of how heaven intervened and was in the end forgiving of the characters. For all we know there is no heaven here, and any and all salvation must come from the characters themselves.
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