2008-06-25, 16:54 | Link #2282 | |
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But guess what? Some of us don't agree with Lelouch's ways. |
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2008-06-25, 16:55 | Link #2284 | |
TRUE! Lelouch is dead! XD
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Also, that Lelouch cop-out is getting old now. It is lame excuse to try and reason away all the horrible things he has done. It just doesn't fly with me. |
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In R2,because his precious sister rejected him and his way of doing things,he comes up with the plan that risk only 1 million lives to go abroad and continue his fight.... As I have said before, in R1 both Suzaku and LL gave hope to the Japanese,LL actions crushed the hope of people who think they can succeed and lead a better life under Britania rule. |
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2008-06-25, 17:13 | Link #2286 |
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Lelouch is trying to win a war, not a popularity contest.
In war, it is more important that your soldiers follow your command and work as a unit (aka a well oiled geared machinary) so that they win and don't die. Any weak link in the chain can mean certain death. This is war, it is a kill or be killed situation, not a sports game where even if you lose you can play again. In war once a soldier loses its over, its death. Commanders in a war are like doctors treating patients. Just like doctors are warned not to consider their patients like relatives or operate on their own relatives, generals cannot afford to show friendship or any form of biasness to soldiers under their command less it causes discrimination. In war soldiers are sent to what is potentially their certain death, and the soldiers themselves know that they are being sent that way, that is why military training and discipline is very important. You've probably seen in war movies where they show military boot camps as being extremely strict and unfair and the boot sergeants being so mean and oppressive to the point of tyranny. Well that's because it is supposed to be that way, normally humans try to avoid injury, thousands of years of evolutionary process has given us automatic reflexes where we duck, jump, roll for cover if we perceive anything potentially dangerous coming our way. Well with soldiers, such reflexes can be more useless than useful, therefore needs to be trained out of their system, especially when you may be sending them to situations where they need to brave out life threatening situations. Thats why military discipline is a lot stricter than the discipline a police officer would receive. |
2008-06-25, 17:14 | Link #2288 |
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Okay, I see alot of posts that seem to be trying to implicate that Lelouch is some kind of monster that gets off on murder and destruction. Lelouch may not be above making sacrifices for his plans, but it is shown that he does not enjoy them. He wasn't dancing on Shirley's dad's grave or anything and he felt remorse over what he has done.
Sacrifices are sometimes needed and he does not go out of his way to sacrifice innocents just when needed for his plans. Does that make him better? Not really, but it is still a far cry from a murdering madman some of you are painting him out to be. If you label him so just for making sacrifices when needed then you may as well brand the Allies and Germans so for their terror bombing tactics in WW2. |
2008-06-25, 17:15 | Link #2289 | |
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It saved their hides so it was an effective and ingenious strategy, but it still was an attack |
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2008-06-25, 17:16 | Link #2290 | |
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Now yes, please, move this to the Lelouch thread. |
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2008-06-25, 17:16 | Link #2291 | |
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2008-06-25, 17:18 | Link #2292 | |
TRUE! Lelouch is dead! XD
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2008-06-25, 17:21 | Link #2293 | |
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2008-06-25, 17:26 | Link #2294 | |
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2008-06-25, 17:26 | Link #2295 | |
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Because he's the main character that's why, fans don't care what he does is right or wrong they only care if he has any regret as a final result than after seeing him cry for Euphie they willingly say "maybe he's not so bad after all" Suzaku gets the short end of the stick because hes the archenemy of the main character and thus should be traeted as scum because of it. |
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2008-06-25, 17:27 | Link #2296 | |
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Hence the death of Shirley's father was accidental, no one except his family knew he was there on a trip (I think it was even hinted that he was there either on business or to see a mistress or something). He was just collateral death which occurs often in any war. If you (as a police captain or someone in charge) have an enemy holding a detonator to a set of bombs placed inside a large building with hundreds of people and he was only holding a few people hostage and you were 100% sure that he would be pressing that detonator no matter what you tell him are you still going to try and negotiate for the lives of those few hostages (when it has been proven 100% positive that the criminal will not listen to you anymore and is going to blow up the building killing everyone) and give him time to press the switch or would you make the decision that the lives of the few hostages has reached a point that it has become necessary to expose them to the risks of a full assault on the criminal to prevent a greater number of people from dying. |
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2008-06-25, 17:30 | Link #2297 | |
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2008-06-25, 17:33 | Link #2298 | |
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2008-06-25, 17:34 | Link #2299 | |
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* edit: meant to say polar opposites in terms of their ideals. Last edited by Dynastya; 2008-06-25 at 17:45. |
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2008-06-25, 17:42 | Link #2300 | |
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Different, but similar. That's one of the reasons I like their relationship so much. |
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